RED71CHEVY
03-03-2006, 04:37 PM
i have a new stereo and no speakers............please show me where you put them.
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View Full Version : stereo speakers...where to put them? RED71CHEVY 03-03-2006, 04:37 PM i have a new stereo and no speakers............please show me where you put them. speedracer 03-03-2006, 04:53 PM I put 6.5 kick panels in and 2 4" in the dash bought kits from lmc or chevy duty can't remember which one. But I changed the speakers the kits come with. Longhorn Man 03-03-2006, 07:56 PM cut the doors QKENUF4U 03-03-2006, 08:09 PM im using one of my fiances firebird speakers in the original spot under dash and i have to little truck boxes behind the seat (only works if ya have a blazer tank conversion) i got the truck boxes from CHECKERS for 20$ and they sound AWESOME in my truck. im gonna do my own kick panels and mount 6x9's where the vent holes are (i dont use the vents anyways) if ya cant put them behind the seat then the kickpanels w/ spearkers are your best bet. 72MARIO 03-03-2006, 08:19 PM Kick pannel 6.5 round JBL's and 6x9 Sony's behing the seat. I shaved the dash speaker hole. chevybill 03-03-2006, 09:07 PM Qkenuf4u, i know it is probably very dry in arizona. If you put speakers in the vent holes you will need to seal them some way. When it does rain or you wash your truck water and or moisture can get to the speakers in that location. jhwkns 03-03-2006, 09:32 PM cut the doors Count me in... It's not a door. It's a giant speaker box on hinges. Sound deadener inside the doors makes a big improvement in the tone quality. QKENUF4U 03-03-2006, 11:54 PM Qkenuf4u, i know it is probably very dry in arizona. If you put speakers in the vent holes you will need to seal them some way. When it does rain or you wash your truck water and or moisture can get to the speakers in that location. ya i just thought about that yesterday. im gonna figure out how to seal that off to the cowl area. later lance;) Lippyp 03-04-2006, 12:42 PM 6x9 three way JBL GTO's in the doors soon to be followed by a single RE8 8" sub and 350W alpine mono amp under the seat and eventually a two channel amp for the door speakers which may get replaced with a set of components. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Lippyp/Truck/currentspeakers.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Lippyp/audio.jpg Edmond 03-04-2006, 01:13 PM When you put the speakers in the doors, what do you guys do to stop moisture? Lipyp, like the Netherlands, it must rain a lot in the UK :cool: What did you do to prefent it? Cya, Edmond Dutch Longhorn Lippyp 03-04-2006, 02:10 PM Hi Emond, yes it probably rains as much if not more than in the netherlands, although at the moment its all solid and white as we have a couple of inches of snow. Still much less than the 40cm I had in France last month! Those JBL speakers have kevlar cones so don't suffer so badly from moisture as those with paper cones. I just used some thick plastic sheet taped inside the hole as a shield to stop any water falling directly on the speaker. You could even make a fibreglass or aluminium box to fit in the door or even just some kind of eyebrow shaped shield to fit over the speaker rivetted to the door to give it some shelter. In the future I may well make some custom pods to fit on the front end of the door to house some component speakers with the tweeters mounted higher up to give better sound. These would then be all inside the cab and I could then weld up the old holes. I know crutchfields, a big us car audio supplier used to sell rubber boots in standard speaker sizes to fit the speaker in therefore waterproofing it. Sadly they don't ship outside the USA and I've just had a look for them and they don't seem to sell them anymore. MISTERSHOTGUN 03-04-2006, 04:10 PM they don't call what you need rubber boots. Actually what you need is a speaker baffle. They still make them out of a waterproof foam and even out of plastic. they improve the sound greatly and they are cheap and nothing gets into them. here is a link for just one place that you can get them. I would recommend the foam ones not the plastic. i used them with my door instal and they were perfect no water or dirt gets through. look atthe picture too see how they work. http://www.autotoys.com/x/cust/product.php?productid=5412 70c10 03-04-2006, 08:59 PM I put these in my dads truck. They sound great. They are 6.5" Edmond 03-05-2006, 02:28 AM Hi Edmond, yes it probably rains as much if not more than in the netherlands, although at the moment its all solid and white as we have a couple of inches of snow. Still much less than the 40cm I had in France last month! Those JBL speakers have kevlar cones so don't suffer so badly from moisture as those with paper cones. I just used some thick plastic sheet taped inside the hole as a shield to stop any water falling directly on the speaker. You could even make a fibreglass or aluminium box to fit in the door or even just some kind of eyebrow shaped shield to fit over the speaker rivetted to the door to give it some shelter. In the future I may well make some custom pods to fit on the front end of the door to house some component speakers with the tweeters mounted higher up to give better sound. These would then be all inside the cab and I could then weld up the old holes. Well that's one of the reasons also, I don't really want to cut up the doors... Maybe I'm going for speakers in the kickpanels, with a speaker baffle like MISTERSHOTGUN suggested. Cya, Edmond Dutch Longhorn Lippyp 03-05-2006, 03:25 AM Thats the babies, couldn't remember what they're called. Might have to see if they'll ship a pair to the UK. 72freak 03-05-2006, 07:35 AM I have owned many of theses truck and I have allways had good sounding sound systems in them. I am proud to say I have never cut a door and I never will!!!! You can put all the equipment you need under the dash and under the seat/s. For an excellent sound....put Kicker type boxes an your amps under the seat/s and put some small tweets and mids in and arround the dash area. For a quick, cheap and easy good sounding system without cutting...just use the Kicker type truck boxes and amps under the seat/s and point the tweeters that are built into the box out towards the front of the truck. Lippyp 03-05-2006, 09:06 AM My doors were cut by a previous owner, long term I want to weld em back up but it seemed a shame to waste a perfectly good hole when it came with no speakers. As a stop gap these have been great until I get a better install sorted out. Tropical Snowstorm 03-05-2006, 01:00 PM I just put 2 boxed 6x9s under the seat in boxes. I didn't have the heart to cut into my doors and I'm too cheap to buy kick panel set ups. MISTERSHOTGUN 03-05-2006, 10:57 PM I have owned many of theses truck and I have allways had good sounding sound systems in them. I am proud to say I have never cut a door and I never will!!!! You can put all the equipment you need under the dash and under the seat/s. For an excellent sound....put Kicker type boxes an your amps under the seat/s and put some small tweets and mids in and arround the dash area. For a quick, cheap and easy good sounding system without cutting...just use the Kicker type truck boxes and amps under the seat/s and point the tweeters that are built into the box out towards the front of the truck. YEAH.. someone else who has done that. I built a set of boxes to fit under a bench seat in a 68 chevy for a friend. Thought it was silly but did it for a favor. it was two tens and tweeters built into the boxes. he used some moderate mids inside the dash and it didn't take much works to get the boxes to fit under the seats. I had to take the seats out of the truck and build them inside the frame and then put the seats back in the truck after it was done.. to my surprise, it sounded great. I used to instal stereo equipment and make custom boxes and fiberglass work. but I tell you what. 72freak is right that it will sound great without cutting holes in your doors. but even after knowing this i put them in the doors of my own personal ride.. It all depends on you. jus_1982 03-06-2006, 02:49 AM ok, me and my family have done this to all our classic trucks. it requires moving the gas tank from behind the seat. then you make a carboard flat template that fits behind your seat. wish i had a pic so you could fully grasp the concept because it looks outstanding. the template should be as tall as the seat roughly and extend as wide as possible to give it uniformity as opposed to trying to hide it. it should be another point of pride you want to display. slightly angle the template to give you room to enclose your speakers. use template to cut 3/4 inch particle board. mount whatever speakers you desire. we usually put a 5 1/2 in each upper corner so that it is visible and busts your eardrum. follow this with 2 10" subs. be sure to enclose these on the back side. mount your amp on the back side of the board. cover board to match your interior. you will have a gap from angling your board. just use leftover particle board, cut it to shape and cover it too. now you have a custom completely enclosed speaker box that you could mount a ton of speakers on if you like. and it looks absolutely professional. i wish i had a pic of it. i will have to see if i can get one from my brother so i can post it and you all can see what i am talking about. why skimp out on your speaker box if you have a sweet hot rod. it will just bring it down. everything must be uniform and look like it belongs. this is an easy project thoug. can be done in a day. message me if you want more details and really want pics Lippyp 03-06-2006, 04:14 AM In a space the size of a pickup cab you don't need rear speakers, just some decent fronts and a sub or two to get a great sound. I have a lot of friends heavily into their car audio who even compete here in the UK and they generally don't run rear speakers in a normal full sized car. Just a good set of component speakers up front and subs. I'm not into dance music or hip-hop etc so don't need ear bleeding bass, just want a better sound quality than I have currently hence the little 8" sub and eventually I will get a set of components up front either in a kick or custom door build. 68speedalert 03-06-2006, 01:20 PM YEAH.. someone else who has done that. I built a set of boxes to fit under a bench seat in a 68 chevy for a friend. Thought it was silly but did it for a favor. it was two tens and tweeters built into the boxes. he used some moderate mids inside the dash and it didn't take much works to get the boxes to fit under the seats. I had to take the seats out of the truck and build them inside the frame and then put the seats back in the truck after it was done.. to my surprise, it sounded great. I used to instal stereo equipment and make custom boxes and fiberglass work. but I tell you what. 72freak is right that it will sound great without cutting holes in your doors. but even after knowing this i put them in the doors of my own personal ride.. It all depends on you. From another that has done this, it works great. I'm pretty picky about my sound but want to keep this as low of a budget as possible. This is not for a show truck but an everyday driver. I made boxes that would JUST fit under the seat. Put 6x9's in them and the amp there as well. The key, as others have noted, is the tweeters and mids. I went so low budget that I took the mids and highs from blown 6x9's, attatched brakets to them, and mounted under the dash, out of sight. By using the fader of the control unit, you can adjust it until your desired sound is right. I would not hesitate to do the same again, As a matter of fact, I did semi-repeat the proccess in numberoneson's (aka afr72) red short-step. He is happy as well. Steve Dennisthemenace 03-06-2006, 06:23 PM If I remember correctly there was a member called jerald jeffers who had a excelent astouning setup in his truck. :bling2: :bling2: I will look it up for you all. special-K 03-06-2006, 08:06 PM cut the doors They`re doin`it from France to Ohio.The factory putzed around`til they finally started doing it. farside847 03-07-2006, 11:05 AM I just put 2 boxed 6x9s under the seat in boxes. I didn't have the heart to cut into my doors and I'm too cheap to buy kick panel set ups. What boxes did you use, or did you make your own? Lippyp 03-08-2006, 03:47 AM Just sourced a used second amp yesterday to run the fronts, its a mac attack 4075, a good quality german made amp quite popular at the lower end of the market here in the UK. Its a four channel amp but I'll probably run it bridged to give 2 x 230W. Just keeping an eye out for a decent used set of component speakers for the front now! Dennisthemenace 03-08-2006, 09:17 AM Look at this guy's set up :bling: http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/destcustomcars/000_0648.jpg http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/destcustomcars/000_0649.jpg http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/destcustomcars/000_0651.jpg http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/destcustomcars/000_0653.jpg HotRod71 03-08-2006, 09:22 AM That is a awesome looking setup. Nice fab behind the seats also. roughedup72 03-08-2006, 09:43 AM Hey Tim, Go with the boxes under the seat, Your truck is to nice to cut up the doors, The tweeters on the dash make it sound great because you get your high notes and they reflect off your windsheild,best of all you can get the little surface mount tweeters and place them just about anywhere. I woud also check out custom audio in lexington to see if they could come up with anything. What kind of head unit did you get. Call me, Troy. Edmond 03-08-2006, 03:08 PM Look at this guy's set up :bling: http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/destcustomcars/000_0648.jpg http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/destcustomcars/000_0649.jpg http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/destcustomcars/000_0651.jpg http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/destcustomcars/000_0653.jpg Dennis, Is that your truck? Anyway, It looks awesome!! Cya, Edmond Dutch Longhorn:metal: Dennisthemenace 03-08-2006, 03:32 PM no i wish it was. It's from another member from this forum called jerald jeffers. :ho: RED71CHEVY 03-16-2006, 01:08 PM how many tweeters should i run.......one above each side air vent and two at the rear view mirror (total-4)........and how about speakers......i have been looking at POLK MOMO 5x7 in boxes under seat for bass,,,, and 5.25" components at the kick panel with their tweeter at/above the side a/c vents then two additional tweeters at the rear view mirror????.........help matthufham 03-16-2006, 01:23 PM is your cab painted? i welded the rear cab corners shut with sheet metal and cut a hole for a 5"X7". i don't think a 6"X9" will fit. later i'll carpet them over. cstanley 03-16-2006, 02:08 PM has anyone done a nice install (tweets, maybe) flush-mounted into that steel panel that runs across the back below the window? i could imagine that would be nice. 76bonanza 03-16-2006, 07:30 PM Anyone have any idea how much depth there is behind the kick panels that the vendors sell(Max depth for speaker mounting?) randomhero472 03-17-2006, 12:54 AM Anyone have any idea how much depth there is behind the kick panels that the vendors sell(Max depth for speaker mounting?) i got mine from kenny's trucks in oklahoma, had 2" top mount depth, i just put a set of polk db 6.5" speakers, they sound great.. i'll get a pic up here in the morning... the panels were 65 bux w/o speakers 76bonanza 03-17-2006, 07:54 AM can you still operate your high beams? Gary 70 Jimmy 03-17-2006, 08:15 AM Does any one no where I can get a speaker to fit my cover it is a 4X10 for the original radio. randomhero472 03-17-2006, 11:50 AM can you still operate your high beams? yea, the panel's are about 1/2" thick black plastic, high beams can be reached just fine.. i'll get a pic in about 1 hour randomhero472 03-17-2006, 11:51 AM Does any one no where I can get a speaker to fit my cover it is a 4X10 for the original radio. try crutchfield.com, if not im sure you could use a 4x6 and fab up a plastic mounting plate randomhero472 03-17-2006, 02:08 PM nothing fancy but these polks sound great, perfect depth http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/randomhero472/Picture013.jpg http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/randomhero472/Picture012.jpg cstanley 03-17-2006, 02:20 PM Does any one no where I can get a speaker to fit my cover it is a 4X10 for the original radio. i think pioneer actually makes a pair that are made to fit our dash. several others are made as well. pretty much all of the suppliers who carry the custom autosound stuff have 'em. also, you can get a stock 4x10 from wal-mart for a few $ many manufacturers still make 4x10s. it'd prolly be better to get the pair designed for our bracketry, though. i haven't heard them, but it's the route i'll eventually go. Gary 70 Jimmy 03-17-2006, 04:34 PM i think pioneer actually makes a pair that are made to fit our dash. several others are made as well. pretty much all of the suppliers who carry the custom autosound stuff have 'em. also, you can get a stock 4x10 from wal-mart for a few $ many manufacturers still make 4x10s. it'd prolly be better to get the pair designed for our bracketry, though. i haven't heard them, but it's the route i'll eventually go. The speaker has to be 10 OHM or it will burn up the original radio. I did a search with google and I found some one that would rebuild mine for $45.00. KFreddy 03-17-2006, 06:41 PM Does any one no where I can get a speaker to fit my cover it is a 4X10 for the original radio. GM 10 ohm speaker here on Ebay. If you only need one I'll take the other one. http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=4+x+10+speaker+10+ohm&category0= -Fred chevydog66 03-18-2006, 10:52 AM I made a set of boxes with 8" subs and amp to put under my bench seat, which thumps your butt pretty good. And built a custom center console to mount the cd player and some 2 sets of 2 way mids and tweets. It sounds good, all for about $500. Click on the link in my sig and check out my 72 GMC truck pics. Lippyp 03-24-2006, 01:05 PM I still say, in an area as small as a truck cab you just need a sub, amp and decent set of components up front to get a fantastic sound. I'll let you know what mine sounds like when it goes in. I'd keep the tweeters and fronts as far up front as possible. The way someone explained it to me is you don't go and sit with your back to the band at a concert, so why do you need rear speakers? If the front soundstage is setup properly you'll not need them. Gary 70 Jimmy 03-25-2006, 08:34 AM GM 10 ohm speaker here on Ebay. If you only need one I'll take the other one. http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=4+x+10+speaker+10+ohm&category0= -Fred I wish I could have seen those before I sent mine out to get rebuilt :( Brad 03-25-2006, 12:02 PM GM 10 ohm speaker here on Ebay. If you only need one I'll take the other one. http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=4+x+10+speaker+10+ohm&category0= It appears this person is in Oregon. I've got an email to him now and if he's somewhat close by to me, I'll pick up a few for board members. EDIT: He's clear across the state from me so I can't do it. aitch 03-25-2006, 09:29 PM Anyone know where Jerald Jeffers (the truck that Dennisthemenace posted) got those kick panels with the tweeters? subtle71 03-25-2006, 11:26 PM nothing fancy but these polks sound great, perfect depth http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/randomhero472/Picture013.jpg http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/randomhero472/Picture012.jpg Go Team!! Just a recommendation... If you put sound deadening material, like Dynamat, on the back of those ABS plastic panels and the metal area that the panels mount to, you will get an ever better sound out of your speakers. al's71gmc 03-26-2006, 02:39 AM I still say, in an area as small as a truck cab you just need a sub, amp and decent set of components up front to get a fantastic sound. I'll let you know what mine sounds like when it goes in. I'd keep the tweeters and fronts as far up front as possible. The way someone explained it to me is you don't go and sit with your back to the band at a concert, so why do you need rear speakers? If the front soundstage is setup properly you'll not need them. surround sound. I never went to a concert for the great accoustics. Live shows are a blast, but not because it sounds good. Chrome8 03-26-2006, 10:18 AM is that little pedal your hi beam switch? I was just wondering where you put it if not. subtle71 03-26-2006, 10:52 AM Chrome8: That is exactly what that is! Obviously it has been moved over a bit. Since I no longe have winshield wipers on the truck, the wiper knob now serves a my sub gain control. I have four 8" subs under the seat. |