View Full Version : rust repair for blazers!


Rokcrln
03-18-2006, 08:34 AM
We are looking at picking up a 2wd blazer and doing a DVD set on rust repair as related to blazers. It would cover all the basics, floors, rockers (inner outers and boxes), kick panels, quarters both infront and behind the rear wheel, doors, tail gates and so on. It would be a step by step DVD showing the related areas and ways to go about fixing them the right way.
Seems almost all the stuff out their is for trucks and yes it is close but for all you blazer owners and want to be owners it is not close enough at all. Is their any interest in this.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

LUV2XCLR8
03-18-2006, 09:32 AM
YES !!!

2 bad ur in Cali, I'd pay ya 2 use mine as the guinea pig

But like w/ anything else, how much is it gonna cost :(

FRENCHBLUE72
03-18-2006, 10:24 AM
I am sure that the people who do not have the skills to do rust repair would be all over it ebfabman sold alot of his copys for the trucks and his video is really good (although could use better music imo) and showed me where to start and finish..

IGOR
03-18-2006, 11:03 AM
Yes - absolutely - count me in!

Gillnetter
03-18-2006, 11:34 AM
That sounds great.I would pick one up for sure.We have alot of rust up here!!

blazerboy72
03-18-2006, 02:06 PM
If you want to ship it or come over here you can use mine. LOL It just needs the drivers side done. The passenger side is perfect put the drivers side is rusted out from the front bumper all the way to the back bumper.

Ochre
03-18-2006, 02:32 PM
I'd want one

VinceY
03-18-2006, 03:11 PM
I am interested. Even though I don't need it quite yet, it's just a mater of time.

Rokcrln
03-18-2006, 09:34 PM
Well the blazer we were looking at turned out to be a problem waiting for an owner. Half way converted from 4x4, no title (out of state 7 years ago), rear leafs, no motor and from the sound of it not enough body damage and rust to make a good how to DVD. Not that we could not finish everything off but if we go that route it will be from start to finish, 4wd to 2wd conversion (trany, front suspention, rear coils with stock arms and some type of suspention up grades) for a totaly factory look and that would be a DVD by it self. Then all body work and panel replacement and rust prevention how to's ready for paint, second DVD. Then to finish things up we are thinking about doing a DVD just on body mods like fuel doors, shaving fire walls a few diferent ways (from easy to super show) and what ever else might come along. But for now we will just be keeping our eyes out for a good donor victom that needs alot of work. I think it would be better in the long run to find a 4wd and go that route since once it is done their would not be much stock left on it to keep a factory 2wd value. I will keep everyone posted. Also if you have ideas on diferent things you would like to see done in an advanced how to DVD (not a how to weld and build a show car in one step) let us know and we can look into it. Alot of mods can be done on trucks or burbs ( I always have them in my shop) and may not need to wait for just a blazer.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

vtblazer
03-19-2006, 07:54 AM
Great to see someone taking notice of blazers. :c2:

Has your shop done alot of blazers/jimmys?

Totally different than trucks.

Same only different kinda thing. :rolleyes:

Rokcrln
03-19-2006, 09:23 AM
Has your shop done alot of blazers/jimmys?

Totally different than trucks.

Same only different kinda thing. :rolleyes:


I have had a few my self but not alot. They are different but when it comes to rust replacement, panel swapping and what not it is all the same to me. Their are only so many things that change when working on vehicals and trucks and blazers only have a slight dissasembly differance ( and then re-assembly) in some areas but all the checks and balances are the same to me. My mine works a little bit diffferent that most:crazy: and some time that makes things a bit easier for me.

But you are right Blazers are different and that is one reason why they get left out alot. The other reason is their were not as many built so the after market does not have as much $ to make off them as compaired to the trucks. But at the same time being that thay are convertable it is that much more important that they are restored in the correct way.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

krue
03-19-2006, 12:09 PM
I'm in! I'm definitely gonna need all the help I can get.:D

13lazer
03-19-2006, 01:15 PM
Well the blazer we were looking at turned out to be a problem waiting for an owner. Half way converted from 4x4, no title (out of state 7 years ago), rear leafs, no motor and from the sound of it not enough body damage and rust to make a good how to DVD. Not that we could not finish everything off but if we go that route it will be from start to finish, 4wd to 2wd conversion (trany, front suspention, rear coils with stock arms and some type of suspention up grades) for a totaly factory look and that would be a DVD by it self. Then all body work and panel replacement and rust prevention how to's ready for paint, second DVD. Then to finish things up we are thinking about doing a DVD just on body mods like fuel doors, shaving fire walls a few diferent ways (from easy to super show) and what ever else might come along. But for now we will just be keeping our eyes out for a good donor victom that needs alot of work. I think it would be better in the long run to find a 4wd and go that route since once it is done their would not be much stock left on it to keep a factory 2wd value. I will keep everyone posted. Also if you have ideas on diferent things you would like to see done in an advanced how to DVD (not a how to weld and build a show car in one step) let us know and we can look into it. Alot of mods can be done on trucks or burbs ( I always have them in my shop) and may not need to wait for just a blazer.

Kevin
LFD Inc.
i have a 1972 cst k5 with all the typical damage, floor, inner rockers, door jambs, and quarter panels. otherwise its a very solid and complete loaded orange cst blazer. quality sheet metal work is whats gonna kill me here. i was thinking about completing the frame with everything upgraded and fresh , motor, tranny/t-case, 8 lug axles, and the new 3/4 ton rear leafs. (all in my posession right now) then i was gonna offer up a body swap to someone who had a clean body and an old crappy not yet updated running gear. this project might suit your needs, and im looking for a good way to get out from under it. im in l.a. and i have access to a flatbed trailer so i can transport this body at will. i am looking to get this blazer body out of my grandma's garage asap. i know i will never get back all i have invested, i am reasonable and i'm just looking to minimize my loss. let me know if anything sounds good to you. otherwise count me in on your blazer dvd. i might need it.
later
13lazer
n0smog@yahoo.com
p.s. there are a bunch of pics showing the body damage posted on my member gallery on ck5. i use the same username there. its the orange one not the grey one. later

Rokcrln
03-19-2006, 02:04 PM
13lazer
Thanks for the offer but if we are going to do this we would find a basket case (with in reason) blazer to start with. This way we will not be out of pocket as much. Also I would only be looking for a 4x4 inrder to do a conversion DVD out of it.

Also on a side note we have had a few people contack us on doing a "Tip & Flip" dolly for the blazers and as of right now it is not in the plans. But I do have a customer who has a factory 2wd blazer I will be doing frame work on in a few weeks and we might toss this idea around a bit more. It would be a larger dolly that would require two people min. to Tip & Flip it and it would only go to the drivers side and passenger side. Not the front or back like the 67-72 (see sig. below) cab model does. We will keep everyone posted if this starts to take shape.

What is the weight of a striped blazer body?
Also is anyone making rocker boxes for you guys yet?
And if not is their a need for new rocker boxes?

Kevin
LFD Inc.

ClassicJimmy
03-19-2006, 11:39 PM
I'm sooooooooooo interested! Count me in!

jcfoote60
03-20-2006, 09:35 PM
I have a titled 72 donor here in Idaho. It has all the classic problems with the tub, but a good frame. No drive train other than differentials. This is my first buy and a lesson learner. bad flloor pans, rockers, front lowers on bedsides, around the wheel wells and spotting around the rear bed area. Too much for me to consider fixing so I moved on and bought other rigs to restore. Come to find out later the guy was a fisherman in Seattle and took the top off in April and put it back on in October....leaving it on the dock during that time in Seattle. You get my drift. Not sure how I would get it to you but I am willing to join in this great adventure. what a cool idea so I am in.

JC

Rokcrln
03-21-2006, 08:40 AM
Thanks guys but last night (early this morning 1am) I bought a factory 2wd that will work great for a demo doner. It needs all the clasic stuff with out being a rust bucket. Plenty to do and I will be STUCK with a 1970 2wd when done:whine: ;) . This will be down the road a bit as I have several customers vehicals in the shop before my own get to join in the fun. I will start off by building the TIP & FLIP dolly for the blazer first to get everyone started.
Also were is the post showing how many 2wd were factory built??

Kevin
LFD Inc.

SLIMJIM
03-21-2006, 08:49 AM
Here is the post about 2wd #'s.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=188820

SLIMJIM

punk27
03-21-2006, 08:56 AM
are there dvd's out there for 67-72 chevy/gmc pickups?

krue
03-21-2006, 03:09 PM
www.ebfabman.com

East End K5
03-21-2006, 08:06 PM
YES Get me that DVD at ONCE!.......

72CSTC5
03-21-2006, 08:38 PM
Rokcrln, yes they make rocker boxes for these vehicles. Good luck on the project. They made a handful of the 2wd 70 Blazers. Rare of the rare for these models. I have one of the rare "rust free" 2wd rust free versions. The only fab work I got to do was shave the entire body and cowl, firewall, rollpan, tailgate skin and so on and so on. I do not know if you are a big fan of metal to metal panel bonding adhesive but you may want to list it as an alternative to welding some patch panels in your DVD for those people that do not have welders out there. Just my 2 cents.

Rokcrln
03-21-2006, 09:23 PM
Rokcrln, yes they make rocker boxes for these vehicles. Good luck on the project. They made a handful of the 2wd 70 Blazers. Rare of the rare for these models. I have one of the rare "rust free" 2wd rust free versions. The only fab work I got to do was shave the entire body and cowl, firewall, rollpan, tailgate skin and so on and so on. I do not know if you are a big fan of metal to metal panel bonding adhesive but you may want to list it as an alternative to welding some patch panels in your DVD for those people that do not have welders out there. Just my 2 cents.

Yes I am not a big fan of glue! I will try to work it in as we go because you are right about the welding thing. Thanks for the advice!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Rokcrln
03-21-2006, 09:36 PM
Ok now that we have a project blazer it will still be awhile before we get started on the DVD set. I wil have the TIP & FLIP dolly out for it in a month or two. Then we will start colecting all the parts we need for the body side of the build. Here are some before pic's so you can see what we will be working on since this build will not be fully posted as we go.

It will be getting new rockers both inner and outer.
Both kick panels.
Both front floor sections and while they are removed we will cover rust repair and prevention on the rocker boxes.
The passenger side quarter panel will be replaced.
Drivers side rear corner and tail light housing will come out as well.
Fire wall smoothing.
Hood mod's
Full suspention build up.
Brake up grades
Motor and trany swap (LS1 and AOD)
A/C install along with fitting the dash with stock vents.
Posibly suicide door build as well as many other options and up grades. I also have my 71 PU that will be playing a part in the DVD sets and if their are any other things that people want to see just post it up.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Rokcrln
03-21-2006, 09:38 PM
A nother 5 pics.

Rokcrln
03-21-2006, 09:41 PM
5 more!

Rokcrln
03-21-2006, 09:43 PM
Last 3 for now!

badpeanut
03-22-2006, 05:03 PM
I'm interested in the Blazer rust repair DVD. Any idea what the cost will be?

Rokcrln
03-22-2006, 07:19 PM
I'm interested in the Blazer rust repair DVD. Any idea what the cost will be?

We have absolutly no idea of what coast would be at this time. What we may do is offer the DVD's in stages of repair work. From panel replacment to frame off resto work and this way if all you want is one DVD out of the set you may be able to get it that way. This is all off the cuff right now and we will know better as things start being recorded and eddited. What I want to make sure of is that any thing my company produces is top notch and no corners were cut to get it to all of you. I do not do this for a living or do I plan to. I am just a major car nut and this is a good way I can justify my sickness and help get the drugs to others like my self.

What I would be able to retire on is if I can fugure out a way to do a "How to Wife video" so they all turned out like mine. When I told mine a few days ago I wanted to go on a last minute road trip to pick up a 2wd blazer (keep in mind I have a shop full of projects and a house that was built in 1928 and needs to be rebuilt as well) and her responce was "drive safe with the trailer it has been raining" and call me when you are heading home!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

IGOR
03-22-2006, 08:06 PM
Put me down (or my wife down?) for a How to Wife Video!

You could probably even market that beyond 67-72.com!

Rokcrln
03-25-2006, 08:50 PM
Starting to collect parts and pieces! This is a short bed side I will be using to replace the rear section of damage on my 70.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

smbrouss70
03-26-2006, 03:04 AM
Starting to collect parts and pieces! This is a short bed side I will be using to replace the rear section of damage on my 70.

Kevin
LFD Inc.
That's exactly what I need to do, will that be the first video available?:lol:

Rokcrln
03-26-2006, 10:43 AM
That's exactly what I need to do, will that be the first video available?:lol:

To be honest with you once I get started on it they will all be ready about the same time. The repair work will go quick for the entire project but the cutting and added sound bights to the DVD will take the most time. I will not turn out a half way done DVD.

Also I picked up a newer rust product yesterday that I will be trying out and if things work like they are suposed to I will have a link and contact info on this product with the DVD's. It is a rust converter that is water based and non toxic un like the por15. Should be great for shooting up into the windshield posts and rocker boxes and so on.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

LUV2XCLR8
03-26-2006, 10:50 AM
:phat: Keep us posted !!! :drama:

red71cheyenne
03-27-2006, 11:10 AM
Ya, I'd say thats a worthy candidate for repair Kevin. Keep us updated on the progress of the rebuild. I for one would love a DVD set that showed me how you weld. Mine still look like I was using a soldering iron. Jeff.

1976K5CHALET
03-31-2006, 10:39 PM
I really like your idea of the video's. And i would gladly purchase any you put out on the K5's. One question though...i am not a body man so i'm sure some of the procedures are text book other than it involves a blazer...but all i own are 73 up K5's...and the 79 i aquired is a factory 2wd with a big rust problem...so are the two body styles similiar enough to help me with the 79 and 76 i have? Up until i saw this post i was just going to go by the local scrap metal yard until they had a rusty k5 in the heap and drag it home. Then i planned to use a period parts manual showing the exploded view of how they go together and start cutting panels off with a spot weld cutter until i reduced the body to a pile of proper but rusty parts so i would understand the process used by gm to make a tub out of many pieces....and i wanted a body dolly or such to work on the body seperatly....but it will be the end of the year before i can do anything as we just bought 5 acres and the house/garage plans are being drawn up so it'll be just a bit before i have anywhere to tinker.

After thought but along the same lines...when i do the 79 up i wanted to use the process and learn how to lets say graft or install a 87 up firewall so i have an ecm bucket...and an 89 up dash so i have the large radio hole...can this be done?

DW

badpeanut
11-11-2006, 11:52 PM
Any updates on the Blazer rust repair video?

Malibu 496
11-12-2006, 01:11 AM
I would be interested also.

Chevyman63
11-12-2006, 08:48 AM
How is that video coming along? Will we see it any time soon?
By the looks of the responses, you could stand to make some serious coin and help alot of us out at the same time.

Rokcrln
11-12-2006, 09:01 AM
It is in the works, some of the footage is shot but I have been over welmed with work latley. The main hold up is that this idea and blazer came along after I had already commited to a few customer builds so now it has to wait its turn. But it will happen trust me, I already have way to much in camera equipment to turn back plus I want my blazer done as well:(

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Chevyman63
11-12-2006, 09:10 AM
Good luck with all of your projects and we will be anxiously awaiting the DVD.
Thanks.

cstanley
11-13-2006, 12:28 PM
just to revive and reiterate.

YES PLEASE!! a DVD would be well worth it!!!

Blizz
11-13-2006, 07:58 PM
i'm sooooooooooooo in. i need to do floors, rockers and kick panels.

5150
11-13-2006, 08:57 PM
Count me in also. I need lots of stuff done on my blazer

69TowRig
11-13-2006, 09:26 PM
How about you cut off and weld on a new windshield frame while you are at it? Show me what it takes...

Count me in on a DVD.

Malibu 496
11-20-2006, 09:14 PM
Any updates on when you think the dvd will be done?

Rokcrln
11-20-2006, 09:30 PM
It is still moving forward but slow with all the paying customers in the shop right now. I will not turn out a half way done DVD just to make a buck! I have seen some in the past and just can not do that, so when it is finished it will be well worth the wait. I will be showing every posible senerio including a windshield frame replacement/graft.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Chris27
11-20-2006, 11:37 PM
Sign me up too!

crisco
11-21-2006, 12:09 AM
How are you guys repairing rusted windshield frames?

Rokcrln
11-21-2006, 07:54 AM
How are you guys repairing rusted windshield frames?

Depends on how bad it is to start with. If you only have small holes you may be able to patch them and at teh same time inject some anti rust products to stop any further rust. If it is real bad you will need to decapitate your Blazer and try and find a new old frame to replace it with.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Critter
11-21-2006, 09:54 AM
I'd pay for a DVD. Let us know when they are ready.

roj2323
11-27-2006, 12:30 AM
i'm a truck guy but i can see how this video might help me with some of the weirder stuff. i'd be interested as well.

Purs
08-22-2007, 10:37 PM
I'm interested..... anywhere close yet?

TonyJohnson
08-23-2007, 12:03 AM
Wow... this one fell off the map.

72K5Blazer4x4
08-23-2007, 12:08 AM
I'll take one, when they going to ready!!

Rokcrln
08-25-2007, 01:59 AM
I have been doing some recording as projects allow but I will be doing a full DVD on the rust and panel repair from my factory 2wd Blazer and I just have not had the free time to do my own project. But right now my build schedule is looking free after Project Trazer so who knows. No completion date at this time:( But I will let you know as soon as it is close to getting out of the cutting room!

Kevin
LFD Inc.