I'm glad to be back on this forum.
Last week i encounterd a windows XP system crash.
I lost all my data including log in passwords,e-mails ,adresses the whole bunch:me2: :me2:
But i am glad to be back and this time i made a backup from my system so......... :hi2:

Sorry for your loss, I am on my 3rd puter in 7 years, I have had no issues since
I started using Firefox and Avg, glad that you made back to the real world ;)

what's firefox?

Free internet browser, lots more secure than internet exploder, it's all I use, best thing since pommes frites

uh, lot more secure, whatever you say!

what's firefox?

Mozilla Firefox, some peeps here like it some don't, it's just like
Internet Explorer, except not as widely used, I actually prefer
it now that I have gotten used to it, it also has tab browsing.

I will just have to take a look into it.
Can I get it at www.download.com ?

firefox, tab browsing and NO popups if you open a new window it OPENS FULL SIZE something Explorer still cant do... why it opens 1/2 size is beyond me lmao

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/

Did I say it was FREE?

Can I get it at download.com ?

Yeppers ;)

firefox, tab browsing and NO popups if you open a new window it OPENS FULL SIZE something Explorer still cant do... why it opens 1/2 size is beyond me lmao

This free program will fix that and enable lots of other options:
http://www.webattack.com/get/iemax.html

I think there is also a setting to make it work, but it's convoluted to get it. It's the 5th tip down on this page:

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ietips.htm

Also - Just FYI - IE7 offers tabbed browsing and all the other features Firefox does.

This free program will fix that and enable lots of other options:
http://www.webattack.com/get/iemax.html

I think there is also a setting to make it work, but it's convoluted to get it. It's the 5th tip down on this page:

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ietips.htm

Also - Just FYI - IE7 offers tabbed browsing and all the other features Firefox does.

Thanks for the links but I fixed IE years ago with Firefox :metal: :metal: :metal:

if you call that a fix, more power to you. :) a lot of people jump on the "firefox is flawless" bandwagon without checking at Secunia and other security sites to see that firefox still has several outsanding vulnerabilities (last i checked - about a month ago) and also has many more publicly known flaws than IE6SP1 does. there have been two or three times more patches released for serious security vulnerabilities for firefox in the past year or so than IE.

it's one thing to tout its indestructability in a public forum, i suggest anyone and everyone does research before buying into the claims you'll read publicly, because software suggestions are often a lot like politics - people blindly spout off claims as "truths" without providing evidence... and the popular claim is usually what people bandwagon, regardless of its validity.

I know you are the resident expert shift, and I am not going to argue w/
you, like I said above some peeps like it some don't, but the FACT is this
I have less issues w/ my PC since I started using it, it might just be that
I am lucky, I don't know, but I am a believer, and I until I get burned by
Firefox like I did by IE I won't go back, it's all about what you like, JMHO

i hear ya, LUV :D.

we all know that old saying about opinions ;) and i'm not insulted, hope you're not either. i'm DEFINITELY not trying to start a squabble, so apologies if it came off that way. my main intent here is not to cane IE to death or suggest everyone uses IE over firefox - i have firefox on my computer at work also so i can swap back and forth between proxied and non-proxied connections.

everyone knows IE has problems - so does firefox, unfortunately, it's just on a lower level IMO w/FF. my intent is to try and express the need for validating whether a piece of software is correct for you before you install it and i'm also kinda trying to nudge some people here that are making boastful claims riddled with falsehoods or opinions being passed off as though they're fact. i'll try and find an article i was reading recently covering problems w/both browsers from a security perspective and post it here.

saying things like "i care about my security, so i use FF" is misleading. if you look at open bugs or recently known exploits targetted at FF, it becomes clear why that is true.

if you call that a fix, more power to you. :) a lot of people jump on the "firefox is flawless" bandwagon without checking at Secunia and other security sites to see that firefox still has several outsanding vulnerabilities (last i checked - about a month ago) and also has many more publicly known flaws than IE6SP1 does. there have been two or three times more patches released for serious security vulnerabilities for firefox in the past year or so than IE.

it's one thing to tout its indestructability in a public forum, i suggest anyone and everyone does research before buying into the claims you'll read publicly, because software suggestions are often a lot like politics - people blindly spout off claims as "truths" without providing evidence... and the popular claim is usually what people bandwagon, regardless of its validity.

WOW, seems you have a axe to grind with firefox heh, here is a suggestion keep using IE, NEVER EVER use firefox!!!!! ONLY USE IE:crazy:

FIY security vulnerabilities have NEVER been a problem or issue with ANY browser I have used on the net in the past 12 years of surfing... :crazy:

For those that want to be on top of things... http://www.securityfocus.com/vulnerabilities

Here, just for the sake of reference, here are some articles FF users should read before installing the browser (read the whole article .. but i'll include note-able quotes):

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5873273.html?tag=nl.e589

Symantec admitted that "at the time of writing, no widespread exploitation of any browser except Microsoft Internet Explorer has occurred"....(but)....25 vendor-confirmed vulnerabilities were disclosed for the Mozilla browsers during the first half of 2005.... Eighteen of these flaws were classified as high severity"......"From March 2005 to September 2005 10 vulnerabilities were published for Microsoft Internet Explorer, 40 for Mozilla Firefox"...."In April-September timespan there were 6 exploits for MSIE, 11 for Firefox."

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/wlg/6459

It hasn't been a good week for Firefox and its fans. First, the Danish security company Secunia warned that it had uncovered a vulnerability in Firefox and other browsers that can allow the URL displayed in the address bar and the SSL certificate to be spoofed, which means the browser and others are vulnerable to phishing attacks....Perhaps most disturbing is that as of this writing, although fixes have been found, they have not yet been rolled up into a patch, or made available in a new Firefox version that can be downloaded and installed.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-6333507-1.html

This article I will not quote, but it will show you how people "spin" the numbers about browser security just like they would politics (it's pro-FF in my opinion, a good read).

this is just a small well rounded sample. before anyone starts arguing or installs FF based on recommendation, you should probably read articles like those to familiarize yourself. FF is not bulletproof and it has its problems. read about them. understand the importance of regularly updating FF. same as IE...Windows...antivirus and anything else.

i'll chirp out with that said. :thumbs:

No insult taken,
I've had a lot less problems with firefox, love the way it works, but like everything else it's only one piece of the puzzle; coupled with a good firewall, antivirus protection, and diligence keeping up the antivirus and spyware scans, it seems to be doing the job well.

WOW, seems you have a axe to grind with firefox heh, here is a suggestion keep using IE, NEVER EVER use firefox!!!!! ONLY USE IE:crazy:

I believe I clearly stated in my previous post that I use both at the office. If you get off the soapbox for a sec, I think you'll see I'm being well rounded here and posting articles from both sides of the fence (my last this post as an example).

FIY security vulnerabilities have NEVER been a problem or issue with ANY browser I have used on the net in the past 12 years of surfing... :crazy:

Sarcasm is such an effective and powerful way to carry on intelligent and productive conversation. :rolleyes: :D

For those that want to be on top of things... http://www.securityfocus.com/vulnerabilities

That's a bit robust for most casual users. I mentioned Secunia for a reason. Secunia has the unique ability to list vulnerabilities by product: http://secunia.com/product/

It's a great place to start researching. Just bear in mind most items you'll see there are often patched quickly unless there are public releases of code used to exploit those vulnerabilities. Some vulnerabilities you'll see listed are POSSIBLE, but there's only one "proof of concept" available with no code presented to make it happen (i.e. it's not actively being exploited).

I believe I clearly stated in my previous post that I use both at the office. If you get off the soapbox for a sec, I think you'll see I'm being well rounded here and posting articles from both sides of the fence (my last this post as an example).



Sarcasm is such an effective and powerful way to carry on intelligent and productive conversation. :rolleyes: :D



That's a bit robust for most casual users. I mentioned Secunia for a reason. Secunia has the unique ability to list vulnerabilities by product: http://secunia.com/product/

It's a great place to start researching. Just bear in mind most items you'll see there are often patched quickly unless there are public releases of code used to exploit those vulnerabilities. Some vulnerabilities you'll see listed are POSSIBLE, but there's only one "proof of concept" available with no code presented to make it happen (i.e. it's not actively being exploited).


Hey I said DONT USE IT and I wil say it again DONT USE FIREFOX only use IE what more do you want lmao

Soap box lmao:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Hey I said DONT USE IT and I wil say it again DONT USE FIREFOX only use IE what more do you want lmao

Soap box lmao:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:


I wanted to carry on an intelligent conversation and talk about the differences between the browsers and how to make a choice about what's right for any given user. Do you always troll in public forums to get reactions out of people when you can't have an intelligent conversation? This thread actually had potential to be educational for people and you're kinda mocking it and stomping all over it.

I wanted to carry on an intelligent conversation and talk about the differences between the browsers and how to make a choice about what's right for any given user. Do you always troll in public forums to get reactions out of people when you can't have an intelligent conversation? This thread actually had potential to be educational for people and you're kinda mocking it and stomping all over it.


Oh I see now your talking DOWN to me with your "I wanted to carry on an intelligent conversation " crapola..... Nice touch.

We get your picture here... all one has to do is look at the bottom of your post and see where you keep editing them after you have already post and others have ALREADY read your comments:crazy: :crazy:

enough........... all yall stfu n use opera or somethin

Welcome back to the board Dennis.

To the rest of ya'll take it elsewhere!
Enough of the BS!