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68 short step
04-09-2006, 11:04 PM
ok im gonna make this my thread with the build up from here on out...
little progress this weekend...
painted new front suspension, installed brakes, and installed engine/trans.
i had lots of help from both my wife and daughter too:)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1004.jpg
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68 short step
04-09-2006, 11:06 PM
and more
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1025.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1023.jpg
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muddyole 69
04-09-2006, 11:07 PM
looking good so far :metal: keep the progress pics comin later Mike

68 short step
04-09-2006, 11:10 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1014.jpg

SCOTI
04-09-2006, 11:48 PM
That's pretty cool that the Mrs. got out there to lend her support. She gets 2 thumbs up from me!

jay-dawg
04-10-2006, 02:31 AM
that's because the engine is clean! lol. j/k

jay

68 short step
04-10-2006, 06:30 AM
that's because the engine is clean! lol. j/k

jay
yea your probley right
:)

Yukon Jack
04-10-2006, 10:22 AM
That looks like a great project. Ought to be sweet when you get it finished.

Custom 68
04-10-2006, 12:34 PM
lookin good man, I have a gen 3 5.3 in mine it is great.
where and what are the a-arms you have installed, they look great.
what suspension settings are you going to set them up to?
caster, camber and toe...

68 short step
04-10-2006, 12:42 PM
lookin good man, I have a gen 3 5.3 in mine it is great.
where and what are the a-arms you have installed, they look great.
what suspension settings are you going to set them up to?
caster, camber and toe...
what kinda gas mileage are ya getting?
DJM tubular control arms.
not quite sure what all my setting are gonna be yet, but ill let ya know when i know.

kingsolver72
04-10-2006, 12:58 PM
Looks good.Cool aint it.

lvscott
04-10-2006, 01:27 PM
lookin good.
where did you get those motor mounts?

Custom 68
04-10-2006, 03:10 PM
well it looks great, my mileage is around 16 or so with some town driving. I hoped to get better but should on a highway trip. It is hard not to press down on that go pedal.
I have a road trip planned this month and hope to get around 20 MPG, I will report back.
Dave

68 short step
04-10-2006, 03:16 PM
lookin good.
where did you get those motor mounts?
from performanceonline.com
tubular mounts with adapter plates from ebay

meathead95
04-10-2006, 04:04 PM
your wife have a sister? the only time i get mine to help is when she wants something.

Deuce
04-10-2006, 04:10 PM
What headers are you running?? Looks awsome. I have a old skool 383 TPI in my 67. I'd like to try something newer.

LUV2XCLR8
04-10-2006, 05:30 PM
:bling:

68 short step
04-10-2006, 05:34 PM
What headers are you running?? Looks awsome. I have a old skool 383 TPI in my 67. I'd like to try something newer.
pacesetters LT for ls1 camaro/ firebird. ill post more on how to get them to fit as i have only the pass side mocked up.
but it looks to be the best choice for any stock application ls1

68 short step
05-28-2006, 01:55 AM
got a little more progress. had the drive shaft made.
its 3" diameter and .083 wall thickness.
here are some pics of the truck getting loaded and my new before and after drive shaft paint job.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1163.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1162.jpg
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SCOTI
05-28-2006, 02:01 AM
I want to see this one.

mike nutt
05-28-2006, 07:25 AM
the truck is looking great. keep up the good work. awesome!!!!

Sgt.Booya
05-28-2006, 09:28 AM
Nice job man. Looks great! The thing I like the most is it looks like a family project. The picture of your daughter handing you the bolt is cute.

TugOwar
05-28-2006, 09:57 AM
That motor/trans looks so cool sitting on that frame. Great build up man. Keep it up! :metal:

shifty
05-28-2006, 12:29 PM
nice! can you tell me a little more about your fuel line setup? i STILL haven't got mine done, but i have the [aluminum] line out in the garage. curious to hear about fittings, what you used for clamps, etc.

68 short step
05-28-2006, 06:21 PM
nice! can you tell me a little more about your fuel line setup? i STILL haven't got mine done, but i have the [aluminum] line out in the garage. curious to hear about fittings, what you used for clamps, etc.
i used braided steel line (-6) for both the feed and return. the connections are a assortment of streight,90's,and unions. for the " dummy proof factor" normal red and blue AN fittings are for the feed, and black are for the return. attaching the fuel rail i used summit fuel rail fittings for gm ls1. i made a connection at the fuel tank so i can remove it if i need to. you can do something similier with tube to an fittings (last pic) o yea the filter is earls -6 on both ends.... as for the clamps they are padded rubber line clamps.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1108.jpg
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shifty
05-28-2006, 06:28 PM
did you make your own lines? i know there are a lot of simple kits out there to make braided lines, just curious if that's what you did.

you are using a fuel pressure regulator, right? i am quite certain you cannot get by without using one on this engine. the stock LS1 has a filter/regulator in one unit.

68 short step
05-28-2006, 06:41 PM
did you make your own lines? i know there are a lot of simple kits out there to make braided lines, just curious if that's what you did.

you are using a fuel pressure regulator, right? i am quite certain you cannot get by without using one on this engine. the stock LS1 has a filter/regulator in one unit.
yes i made my own lines.. i bought 30 ft of -6 braided lines and all the fittings. no special tools needed, just a cut off wheel, and wrenches.
im useing the truck manifold, which has the regulator built in the fuel rail.

shifty
05-28-2006, 06:54 PM
wow :D i need one of those!

shifty
05-28-2006, 06:54 PM
oh - last question - how much you have sunk into the lines and adapters alone?

phantom dually
05-28-2006, 07:00 PM
Nice progress man!! I dont think my wife has been in the garage over 10 times in over 2 yrs.

68 short step
05-28-2006, 07:13 PM
oh - last question - how much you have sunk into the lines and adapters alone?
the setup i have ran me about 235$ and if you did hard lines you'ld save about 50$. also with the filter/regulater you'ld be able to get by with 15ft of braided line.

68 short step
05-28-2006, 07:17 PM
Nice progress man!! I dont think my wife has been in the garage over 10 times in over 2 yrs.
thanks.... mine comes out there everyday, to tell me to "get in"

shifty
05-28-2006, 08:20 PM
i had the opposite problem - ever since my woman and i broke up a couple weeks ago, i ain't got nothing done :( i couldn't keep her out of the garage in anticipation of the truck being done.

i've been helping other board members with stuff though, enough that i have an excuse why i can't work on the truck :rolleyes:

Hart_Rod
05-29-2006, 09:26 AM
Did you use the same size lines for feed and return?

R

68 short step
05-29-2006, 10:15 AM
Did you use the same size lines for feed and return?

R
yes, both are -6

ChevyDude
05-29-2006, 11:03 AM
Beautiful job!!! Nice pics and expalination. I just ordered my fuel line and will be putting in my Fuelcellguy tank and running line. I am using a combination of hard aluminum and braided line.

Inthuwind
05-29-2006, 08:04 PM
Awesome Awesome Awesome!!! Keeps me motivated on mine. Keep the pics coming.

sixty8c10
05-30-2006, 12:25 AM
good progress....keep the pics coming.

jay-dawg
05-30-2006, 12:31 PM
yes...very good write up and thanks for the part number on the fuel line adapter.

68 short step
07-08-2006, 12:49 AM
welp, more progress to report... been working on the rad support. under the bat box was all corroded and pitted or non existant, so i cut out the old metal and welded in new metal, shaved the ' bumps ' on top of the support, filled a few non used holes ( need to fill couple more ), and finished mounting my radiator..... i had to drill out the old bottom rad mounts , move them to fit this rad ,and welded them back to where there new home now is.. the overflow tank is pretty streight forward locate and drill 2 holes and mount with included hardware.. plan for the next week include finish 'smoothing' rad support, disassemble (after mock-up), take to get sand blasted, prime, sand,sand,sand, paint, sand,clear,clear, clear, sand,buff.....reassemble and install.....
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1360.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1359.jpg
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72CSTC5
07-08-2006, 01:04 AM
Yeah right, show off.

BowTieOgre
07-08-2006, 01:18 AM
Tell me how you prepped and painted the engine/trans, chassis and driveshaft if you would. Im almost ready to get my frame going. Nice job BTW.

68 short step
07-08-2006, 08:36 AM
Tell me how you prepped and painted the engine/trans, chassis and driveshaft if you would. Im almost ready to get my frame going. Nice job BTW.
short version is on engine and trans used oven cleaner, and tooth brush for hard to reach places.... water hose to rinse off...let dry then paint with aluminum paint, when dry apply 3 coats of high temp clear.....
on the frame and such... i had them sandblasted, then go over it with acetone (till clean), prime it with 2 coats, paint with 3 coats paint, then 3 coats clear..
remember get good quality primer, paint, clear so it will with stand the road... or powdercoat it

Palf70Step
07-08-2006, 08:54 AM
It's looking better every post.

68 short step
09-16-2006, 11:40 PM
ehaust will be gitting done this week.... had to install my flang on the slip flang (i dont like) so it'll be easier to connect/disconnect should i need to....
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1604.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1607.jpg

watahyahknow
09-17-2006, 08:03 AM
prommises to become a verry nice truck ill keep an eye on the progress .
those LS1's look great and from wat i've read about them there pretty sturdy too

450hp69chevy
09-17-2006, 08:33 AM
Very nice work, looks real good. Keep it up!

72SWBChevy
09-18-2006, 05:41 PM
Looks great!!! Nice work.

68 short step
09-20-2006, 11:31 PM
the exhaust is ready to be installed... i had to get the rear sway bar installed so there wouldnt be a interference problem with the exhaust being dumped in that vacinity..... i got the POL front and rear kit ( although the front has no way of fitting, atleast as i see it... and the rear i would of designed the mounting bracket to pick up a existing hole in the frame instead of haveing to drill a new one!! but so far there customer survice is doing good, i'll keep ya'll posted)
and the rear installed pics
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1632.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1631.jpg
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68 short step
09-22-2006, 07:56 PM
the exhaust pipes are bent up ( have the mufflers, moroso spiral flow) they are 3 inch.. ill mount the mufflers when i mount the bed cross seals. so i can see where i need the hangers to go... its gonna be dumped just before the rear axles (i also have the turn downs )
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1637.jpg
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LUV2XCLR8
09-22-2006, 07:57 PM
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :metal:

Palf70Step
09-22-2006, 09:48 PM
Man, that looks nice!

jooooooe
09-24-2006, 01:35 AM
please post more pictures of wife

shifty
09-24-2006, 12:05 PM
:lol:

It looks like you ran your fuel supply and return lines all the way up to the engine - is there a particular reason why?

68 short step
09-24-2006, 03:06 PM
:lol:

It looks like you ran your fuel supply and return lines all the way up to the engine - is there a particular reason why?

im useing a truck intake manifold, and they have the regulator on the manifold.. thats where both, the feed and return inlets/outlets are... i know what your getting at. why not use a vette style regulator....the reasons are
-already had this style intake
- most suv/truck intakes have both a feed and return up on the fuel rail
and i didn't see it neccacery to find one.

68 short step
09-24-2006, 03:07 PM
please post more pictures of wife

ill tell her.. and have her pose infront of my rad support, im still working on...

oscareltemblo
09-24-2006, 04:22 PM
Nice I'm still having problems getting headers to fit..

LowRodder
09-24-2006, 05:21 PM
Maybe I missed it, did you get your tank from the Fuelcellguy ?

68 short step
09-24-2006, 06:51 PM
Maybe I missed it, did you get your tank from the Fuelcellguy ?

yes

Chevyguy111786
09-24-2006, 07:04 PM
i'll definately be following this. I'll be doing the same set-up when i start my frame. what tranny are you going with?

68 short step
09-24-2006, 07:51 PM
4L60E
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_0622.jpg

Inthuwind
09-24-2006, 08:09 PM
Man thats puuuurdy!!!

shifty
09-24-2006, 08:51 PM
i know what your getting at. why not use a vette style regulator....the reasons are
-already had this style intake
- most suv/truck intakes have both a feed and return up on the fuel rail
and i didn't see it neccacery to find one.


I was genuinely curious, I wasn't getting at anything :)

I've never seen such a thing. Curiosity speaking here - how much was the braided fuel line (supply only)? You know how many feet it was? Can you show me some pictures of where you've got it terminating?

Also, curious - sorry if you mentioned this before - but which manifolds are you using?

oscareltemblo
09-24-2006, 09:30 PM
It really is an awesome Job check mine out http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/oscareltemblo/ password is 1968

68 short step
09-24-2006, 11:36 PM
I was genuinely curious, I wasn't getting at anything :)

I've never seen such a thing. Curiosity speaking here - how much was the braided fuel line (supply only)? You know how many feet it was? Can you show me some pictures of where you've got it terminating?

Also, curious - sorry if you mentioned this before - but which manifolds are you using?

which end of the termination do you wanna see (at the manifold or tank?) if at tank look at page 1 bottom.... ill get you some pics up of the connection at the manifold side......supply only 15' will be enough to run the lenght of the frame and have some left over.... all my lines and fitting cost me around 260 ( around there) you could do the same for less than half (supply only, with a vette style regulaor, and have some for the short return line from the reg.) im useing 00 camaro headers....

68 short step
09-24-2006, 11:38 PM
It really is an awesome Job check mine out http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/oscareltemblo/ password is 1968

o i have been following your build up, shiftys (who hardly posts updates anymore :( ), along with others doing this swap... keeps me motivated and gives me ideas..

shifty
09-25-2006, 12:24 AM
I don't update because I haven't been working on the truck for almost 3 months :(

I got more updates now though. Tonight I bolted on the front clip and Cowl again (all but the 2 rad support bolts), I fabbed up my hydraulic clutch bracket on paper and IT WORKS! so I gotta get that knocked out. I also got battery tray hooked up and got the stock wiring integrated - deleted the voltage regulator, respliced several lines, removed any unnecessary lines...

All in all, I'm good to go. I probably will not be updating my ls1tech page anymore - still a little bitter at some of the assholes over there.

nonetheless though, I have info to share with regard to tapping out the oil pan to add a standard (mechanical) oil pressure gauge for your engine and some other stuff if you want it :) Maybe I should continue my buildup thread over here :)

shifty
09-25-2006, 12:25 AM
which end of the termination do you wanna see (at the manifold or tank?)

The manifold side - if you can get pictures, that would be great!

68 short step
09-25-2006, 08:30 AM
nonetheless though, I have info to share with regard to tapping out the oil pan to add a standard (mechanical) oil pressure gauge for your engine and some other stuff if you want it :) Maybe I should continue my buildup thread over here :)

good idea :)
id be instrested with the oil pressure line connection. as i have yet to do so..

68 short step
09-25-2006, 08:31 AM
The manifold side - if you can get pictures, that would be great!

ill get some tonight... (not only you, but others have asked me the samething)

shifty
09-26-2006, 12:18 AM
Ok, here's what I got for ya. I didn't realize it but I already posted pics of this in my gallery :) I didn't get the tank bolted up, and it looks like my pictures are up to date, excpet for the front clip being back on and the tank almost being bolted on :D

http://satellitehead.com/images/68chevy/ls1/clip_on%20008.jpg

http://satellitehead.com/images/68chevy/ls1/clip_on%20009.jpg

Those are two huge closeups that will show you where to tap and how. You will see three things in the first picture:

1) The brass fitting and copper line for my oil pressure gauge
2) An aluminum fitting from S&P that is totally unnecessary (hindsight is 20/20, cost me $50 too :mad: )
3) The factory tap (has two bolts holding it to pan) that I think is typically used for oil cooling line or something on LS-series engine pans.

Here is the sloppy description of what to do to make this connection:

* Take the two bolts out to remove that tap.
* Take a good look at the piece and notice that you can drill a hole through it - it's just casted closed
* Take a drill and drill the oil pressure tree with a 1/4" drill bit.
* Next, run a 1/8" NPT Fine thread pipe tap to thread in the sensor. (Check the thread on your brass fitting for your oil gauge ti ebsyre ut;s 1/8NPT fine thread!!).
* Screw in your oil gauge pressure line :)
* Drink a beer, and thank shifty ;)

This is great way to add manual gauges. Also, to add a manual water temp gauge...

http://satellitehead.com/images/68chevy/ls1/clip_on%20006.jpg

On the rear of the passenger side head, you will see a hex head bolt with no obvious purpose - need a picture of it? Look just to the right of the threaded hole at the rear of the head here: http://satellitehead.com/images/68chevy/ls1/manifolds/ls1_manifolds10.jpg

That's it. Pop that joker out - it plugs a water passage through the head. I think it's a pipe thread - NPT10 or something ? S&P sells the adapter to convert it if you want to buy theirs - but, as with anything else from them, it's priced 3x what you'll think it's worth...After spending the gas money driving around to every specialty shop known to man and wasting the money in gas I woulda spent on the part, I finally broke down and bought it from them.

68 short step
09-26-2006, 08:46 PM
good info on the oil adapter.. i planned on doing that, now i know it'll work... (thanks shifty) also thats where i plan on getting the temp from... that sucks nowhere has that adapter, ill probly waste my time and $ on gas too, until i brake down and go to S $ P..... here are the pics of the feed and return line at the fuel rail... the black fitting is my return (used black on the return all the way, from tank to fuel rail, for ease of maintance)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1645.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/bigD76/68%20short%20step/100_1644.jpg

Hart_Rod
09-26-2006, 08:59 PM
68SS, Nice job on the fuel lines. Shifty, did you ever get the headers figured out?

shifty
09-26-2006, 09:41 PM
I ended up using '98 camaro headers. I have the blockoff plates on the way - paid $20 + $30 shipping for the headers - and paid $20 for the blockoff kit.

Hey - Saw something over at LS1tech today - you can remove the water plug above and drill out the center of it, thread it and tap that.

68 short step
09-26-2006, 10:06 PM
I ended up using '98 camaro headers. I have the blockoff plates on the way - paid $20 + $30 shipping for the headers - and paid $20 for the blockoff kit.

Hey - Saw something over at LS1tech today - you can remove the water plug above and drill out the center of it, thread it and tap that.

are you useing manifolds or headers? thats so simple to do that (drill and tap plug)
thats genius!