View Full Version : Project Lemon Drop: anything but stock!
Rokcrln 05-21-2006, 01:54 PM Here are a few pic's of an up and comming project. It is a 68 step side 2wd build I will be starting on in a few weeks for afellow board member. Alot of cab work was started by another shop and now it is getting to be time to finish it all up.
What has been started:
Shaved front drip rail.
Shaved and reformed side drips.
Welded rear roof line.
Floor and rocker repair.
Replaced a small section of the inner windshield area.
Total paint strip and primmed.
Started to set door gaps.
Rebuilt door hinges.
What I will be doing/re-doing:
Finish or fix everything listed above.
Create 3/16" door gaps everywhere.
Get the body ready for finish (pull and metal work all dings and dents)
Do a full "show car" fire wall shave and reforming.
And a whole lot more. I will let the owner fill you in on the rest of this plans if he want to let tings out of the bag!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 05-21-2006, 01:55 PM And the last for a few weeks!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
72CSTC5 05-21-2006, 06:09 PM You are going to have to quit your day job pretty soon.
cornutz 05-21-2006, 08:00 PM I agree! Where do you find the time in the day??? Sleep must not be an option for you at all!
jugernot 05-22-2006, 04:34 PM As Kevin stated he will soon work his magic on my cab. I would love to tell you all what is in store, but I think that pictures tell the story better. So you will have to wait for the play by play as Kevin does his work. In addition to the modification Kevin mention, we plan a few suttle mods. As for the project name Lemon Drop. The frame has a four/six DROP, and I plan on painting the body YELLOW. I am thinking of personalized plates "URN DROP" 18's in the front and 20's in the rear. I hope to have the truck in paint by the end of summer.
Stay tuned for progress updates from me or Kevin.
Thanks again Kevin.
Rokcrln 05-22-2006, 05:18 PM I hope to have the truck in paint by the end of summer.
He don't know me that well does hehehe!!:lol: Good thing he did not specify 2006 or 2007!!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
ChevyDude 05-22-2006, 05:31 PM Awesome dude!!! keep the pics coming!!! Question for you...when putting it back together does the cowl go on prior to the fenders? My painter flaked on me and I just don't see how to get the cowl on with fenders all bolted up???:crazy:
Thanks
Alex
Rokcrln 05-22-2006, 06:04 PM No the fender go on first then the cowl then hood. But before you tighten down your fender make sure all your gaps are set how you want them because once your cowl is on you can not get to the bolts to change things.
Heres a tip for ya! Go the the local paint store and get a roll of 2" blue or green masking tape and put over all your edges(door, fender, hood) where two parts might touch while adjusting things. This will give you a little protection against chips. Do not use the regular masking tape as it has too much glue and can pull soft paint and it leaves a residue behind as well. The best to use in my opinion is the green but it is more money then the blue.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
cstanley 05-22-2006, 06:08 PM that one's gonna be nice. what's the difficulty level/involvement for shaving the drip rails? i know it was previously done, but still...
glock35ipsc 05-22-2006, 08:52 PM Not to steal the thread, but Kevin - Is welding the upper rear seam the best way to clean that up? I would like to do that too, and was wondering what the best way is?
jugernot - From what I've seen so far on this board, your cab is in the BEST hands possible for sheet metal work!!!
Rokcrln 05-22-2006, 11:43 PM Not to steal the thread, but Kevin - Is welding the upper rear seam the best way to clean that up? I would like to do that too, and was wondering what the best way is?
If you want the rear seam "shaved" then yes it does need welding and then in my opinion then the best way to finish it from their is to use lead as a filler for anything beyond fill-primer. This part of the cab can get some vibration so I do not feel bondo is a long lasting product for this area. My self I fell the rear seam looks great when you have it stripped to bare metal and use just enough primer and paint as needed leaving a real nice crisp line. The problem I have with welding up this seam is the body does not flow real well at that point. In order to make it flow (to my liking) you would need to cut the roof cack about 3" on each side of the seam and roll out a new filler piece that creats a smooth flow. But this option is big $ because you also need to remove the headliner so you can work both sides of the metal.
Kevin
LFD Inc
Rokcrln 07-23-2006, 10:41 PM It's time to get started on this beast! It is now in the good side of the shop (where stuff gets done) and I will get started on it this week:metal: Sorry for the weight but I had more work in front of me than I thought! All those jobs are done for now and it will just be this project untill it is finished.
Here are a few shots from today (7hrs in 110* heat with out air) in order to get this side of the shop ready!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
jugernot 07-23-2006, 11:54 PM Thats weird that you type a response today. Earlier I re-visited this link to refresh my memory of what it said.
Thanks for the update. If there is anything I can do to help let me know.
78Bronco 07-24-2006, 10:03 AM Wow, pictures of a Bronco on this forum...... is that legal?
Rokcrln 07-25-2006, 03:54 PM Wow, pictures of a Bronco on this forum...... is that legal?
SHhhhhhhhhhhh! We don't talk about these things! Youy know he is their and he is quite different than the rest of the kids but you don't point him out, you just don't!!!!!!!!! ;)
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 07-29-2006, 02:05 AM Project starts first thing Saturday morning with a full fire wall shave and rework. Pic's to come!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
72CSTC5 07-29-2006, 10:07 AM Sneaky, I saw how you slipped those orphan kid shots in there. That was brilliant. I thought wow, the owner of lemon drop changed dircetions and was going with a yellow Bronco. You forgot to stretch the quarter to fit the 24" wheels in the back when you bag and bodydrop that thing. Nice work Kevin.
Rokcrln 07-29-2006, 10:13 AM You forgot to stretch the quarter to fit the 24" wheels in the back when you bag and bodydrop that thing. Nice work Kevin.
How did you know it was going 2wd? No body drop but it should be getting a 4.6 Cobra set up with IFS and maybe IRS as well then 18's or 20's!;)
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 07-29-2006, 08:38 PM This is stage one of the fire wall. Stage two will be first part of the week.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
jugernot 07-29-2006, 09:17 PM Keving Its looking great. Glad I could help with the up coming THING as well. I am looking forward to seeing both of them complete. I am off from work next Sunday, if you need any help let me know. I would be great to see the MASTER at work. You don't charge anything to watch do you??????
I just got a bunch of parts back from powder coating. Here are some pics of some of the parts.
Rokcrln 07-29-2006, 10:00 PM Parts look great, I like the powder chrome my self. And yes I do charge to watch, ?? per hour:lol: And that up comming THING is on the down low if you know what I mean:cool:
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 08-01-2006, 10:05 PM I got some time tonight for the fire wall part 2. The pass side now matches the drivers side for a much better look. I will get two the wire rail in the next day or so.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Hart_Rod 08-01-2006, 11:11 PM Do you have a side picture Kevin?
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Rokcrln 08-03-2006, 08:36 PM Do you have a side picture Kevin?
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Not yet as I did not want to complete the top untill I re-shoot the Epoxy anywhere that will be covered. Should get to finish it up this weekend. I got all the epoxy/filler primer today as well as 10lbs of .035 tig rod for more body welding. I have been using my mig wire while I was waiting for the new rod to come in. That stuff sure does not like to go strait:rolleyes:
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 08-04-2006, 08:09 PM All primed and ready for the top wire rail to get filled in the morning!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
LUV2XCLR8 08-04-2006, 09:25 PM Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :metal:
FRENCHBLUE72 08-04-2006, 11:58 PM Looking damn good great work from you as always..
Rokcrln 08-05-2006, 09:36 PM Firewalls done! I tried a new approach on this one that I really like. All th eones that I have seen that have molded off the top wire rail just do a flat plate but I wanted somthing different. Let me know what you all think.. This was done out of only two pieces that are joined in the center.:crazy:
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Palf70Step 08-05-2006, 09:53 PM I like that A LOT Kevin. Sweet work. I guess I'll know what to do on my next one.
jugernot 08-05-2006, 11:57 PM I like it aswell, I'm glad you talked me into having it done that way. I can't wait to see it in person tomorrow. I have the seats and wiper parts. I won't be able to say thanks enough. Great Job.
camaro__thunder 08-06-2006, 01:03 AM http://www.tupapi.net/Pics/evil-smiley-face.jpg
72CSTC5 08-06-2006, 03:02 PM Hey Rok, looks great. Wht holes did you leave in the firewall? I was afraid to weld up all of mine and then go back and have to drill holes all over again.
Carlos
67Fleet 08-06-2006, 05:35 PM Man that is looking killer. Too bad you're on the other end of the country Kevin......
Rokcrln 08-06-2006, 08:59 PM Hey Rok, looks great. Wht holes did you leave in the firewall? I was afraid to weld up all of mine and then go back and have to drill holes all over again.
Carlos
We only left holes for the column, booster, parking brk and speedo cable. We are going to fill the speedo cable and run it from the lower part of the fire wall. The gass is going to be a SS braded cable and not the old linkage. We will be test fitting everything in this truck before paint tear down so we should find any holes that might be needed. Most wires and holses will be ran out of sight.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 08-09-2006, 11:36 PM Got some more tricks done tonight (started last weekend) that will blow most people away including myself! Only problem is I can not let it out of the bag untill the truck is complete and ready for the shows! Sorry but I have had real bad luck in the past with original ideas that I have come up with or built for others that always end up in the mags before my projects get finished! This is one of the reasons that by "Project Slow Build" is on the very back burner, when I started it it was cutting edge but it took longer than I wanted and it soon became the norm. So their will be a few things that wil not be revealed but for the most part you guys will see it all. I will be doing a set mounting write up in the next few weeks showing the safe way to mount the new seats with built in belts into these old trucks. You will be able to find it in the FAQ area when it is done.
Kevin
LFD INc.
smbrouss70 08-10-2006, 12:14 AM If you're putting the new silverado seats in this truck and the owner is tall (around 6'+), he might want to reconsider it. I have them in my 70 swb, and I'm getting ready to take them out due to the fact that there is no room in the cab with those seats in there. They are going to end up in the Blazer, so I have room to push them back and recline a little bit. Not trying to bust anyone's bubble, just giving my opinion.
BTW, I can't wait to see what is so secret that it will blow all of us away, including you!
Rokcrln 08-10-2006, 07:04 AM We did a trial run this week end and the seats are just fine. I am 6' he is not;) so their is not a problem. I on the other hand will nees a thinner and lower (2" body drop) seat for my 71swb. I am going to look into the GTO seats.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Hart_Rod 08-10-2006, 09:45 AM I used some seats out of a 03 Deville in my 52 chevy. Full power and they have the integrated seatbelts.
Rob
smbrouss70 08-10-2006, 01:36 PM I've seen some people using the Chrysler Sebring seats that have the integrated seatbelts, also.
Rokcrln 08-13-2006, 09:55 PM Ok a few up dates. Fire wall is about done I just need to weld up the speedo cable hole, we are going to route it up from the bottom of the fire wall to keep it out of site. I have most of the cowl shaving done I just need to work on the gap at the base of the windshield some. It is not as even as I would like yet. I started blocking out the cab so I can see just were I need to use the spot puller and were we can block out with high build primer. Any ares the I can get to will get worked out but anything on the roof or in the double wall areas will get spot weld studs and then get pulled out abit. You can see in the pic's any area thet is darker then the area around it is low and will be brought out before the first coat of fill primer. Gota love the Tip&Flip dolly for doing body work! Saves your back from all sorts kinks and bends.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 08-13-2006, 09:59 PM And the cowl. I am using my cab for test fitting.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
jugernot 08-14-2006, 06:18 AM Looking Good. I better start collecting some donations so I can pay you when its done.........Anyone out there want to make a donation?????? Please........I mean Pretty Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the rest of you only knew my evil things Kevin and I have planned for the truck. He not only does great work, he has alot of great ideas.. I don't think his mind ever takes a break.
Thanks for the hard work, Kevin.
longnlow72 08-14-2006, 12:22 PM leavin the wipers? im guessin this truck wont see rain...
Rokcrln 08-14-2006, 09:08 PM leavin the wipers? im guessin this truck wont see rain...
Yep they are both staying and he wants working squarters as well. I think once he shows it a bit it will get the wheels driven off it.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
mkundo 08-14-2006, 09:32 PM Kevin, That looks great. Glad to see your putting the new tools to good use.
I'll give you a call this week. I would like to drop by and see this project first hand.
Dan
Rokcrln 08-14-2006, 11:03 PM Kevin, That looks great. Glad to see your putting the new tools to good use.
I'll give you a call this week. I would like to drop by and see this project first hand.
Dan
Sounds good! Tuesday or Friday work for me. Wed/Thur or booked and done.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Longstep70 08-15-2006, 12:40 PM Do you have the inner roof/headliner panel out to get at the back of those roofs dings?
I have a bunch above the back windo and right along the top of the roof seam and i'm not 100% on how I'm going to get them out without access to the back of the roof panels.
Rokcrln 08-15-2006, 11:42 PM Do you have the inner roof/headliner panel out to get at the back of those roofs dings?
No I did not pull the head liner but I can not tell you how I am doing it. It is a very old family secret:lol:
I wish my floor looked this good!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 08-15-2006, 11:46 PM I am starting to work on the front of the roof and the door openings now. Once all the metal work is done I will re-shoot the cab, block sand it and start any filler needed.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 08-19-2006, 06:26 PM Gap time! I finished all the metal work on the roof for now so it was time to move down the way to the doors. First I spent some time getting the door to fit as well as posible. The drivers side lined up real well at the bottom of the window channel and down at the bottom body line area but the middle belly band of the doow was out about 1/8" to 3/16". Since one of the important on this truck are the body lines and panel gaps I decided to cut the door jamb loose and bring it out just a touch. Once that was done it only left a few small areas that were not out flush with the door. I need to add that the door lined up good when it came here but the last shop or a PO did the old trick of folding the edge of the door in a bit to get it to line up, so I first fixed that then went on.
Next it was time to close up the gap from 3/8" to about 3/16" so out came the Tig rod and away I went. Not only did I close up th egap but I also made sure it was out flush with the door skin before tacking it in place. Once it is all done I will be using lead to finish out this area. Here are a few pic's.
Kevin
LFD inc.
jugernot 08-20-2006, 04:40 AM If I have not said it already, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is a really nice door gap. Thanks Kevin.
72CSTC5 08-20-2006, 09:32 AM Kevin, have you came out with the plans for the tip and flip for the Blazer yet? Truck project is looking good. I feel sorry for you. It looks like somebody was hitting that cab with a sack of golfballs.
Rokcrln 08-20-2006, 01:49 PM To be honest with you this cab did not need half the pins used but if you have to put one on you might as well get out those little waves as well. You can ether spend the time now and get the metal that much better and use almost no filler or spend it later with many skim coats of filler. I am not real big on sanding!;) I would say that less then half of those would have taken less than 3/16" to fill but now they will take block sanding and maybe 1/16" of a skim. Time well spent in my book.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln 08-20-2006, 06:03 PM Here is alittle bit of todays progress. At the same time that I am fine tunning the top door gap I am also smoothing out the door Jambs. Here are some pics to start off with.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
72CSTC5 08-20-2006, 07:37 PM Shaved the drip rail after all did you?
Rokcrln 08-20-2006, 08:16 PM Shaved the drip rail after all did you?
It came to me shaved but unfinished. I get to complete it all. Gotta love picking up after people.
Here are a few more pics from tonight. Almost their!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
jugernot 08-21-2006, 04:36 AM Kevin, I got the jump seat. When would you like me to bring it out? I'm free on Tues and Thurs.
KOOLmike 08-21-2006, 06:15 AM I'll be damned. That thing is gonna be freaky when it's done.
Rokcrln 08-21-2006, 07:31 AM Kevin, I got the jump seat. When would you like me to bring it out? I'm free on Tues and Thurs.
Tues it is! I get home about 4:30!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
72CSTC5 08-25-2006, 06:22 PM TTT for you Kevin, any updates? I PM'd you back about the bodywork question.
red71cheyenne 08-26-2006, 07:11 PM Beautiful work as usual Kevin! I have a question for you though. When working the door gaps, you said you break out the tig rod. What exactly are you doing? Also was wondering if you use a mig or tig for your body work. Your welds are so nice. Thanks and keep us up on this one! Later, Jeff.
72CSTC5 08-26-2006, 09:10 PM He is welding a tig rod around the door edges to close up his gaps. Finish welding solid and then bodyworking the area to make sure your gap is right.
red71cheyenne 08-26-2006, 10:28 PM Ok, thanks! That was what I thought, but wasn't sure. Jeff.
Rokcrln 08-26-2006, 11:17 PM UUUM YEP! glad I could help:lol: No real updates I started to mount the seats and found one had a bent frame:( So I am getting ready to do a little body work just for the fun of it:crazy:
72CSTC5 Yes I got your input! Thanks, I always like to get input from different people to make sure I am on the right track. It has been a few years since I have spread mud;)
Kevin
LFD Inc.
LUV2XCLR8 08-27-2006, 07:42 AM Very nice, Man I wish you were closer, I'd keep you busy, if I could afford you :whine:
Hart_Rod 08-27-2006, 10:55 AM If you need a little extra room, the center seat out of a 90's Dodge Dakota works real well. It's about 4 inches narrower than the Chevy seat. I was able to use the bracket from the Chevy center seat, just had to cut 4 inches out of the middle.
jugernot 09-26-2006, 08:37 PM I just wanted to give an update. We have had a delay due to the search for seats. The other seats I bought (which look the same as these) were damaged.
On that note, those of you that are planning to purchase seats from a wrecker, be careful and do a thorough inspection of the seats. The first set I bought was involved in a heavy hit. The passenger seat back was bent to one side. Another sign is damage for stretching on the seat beats.
Anyway I spent about an hour cleaning these seats and applying some leather conditioner and they turned out nice. I may replace both leather seats bottoms. It should go nicely with the jump seat.
I'm sure Kevin will have some more fabrication updates soon. So stay tuned, project LEMON DROP continues
Rokcrln 09-27-2006, 03:24 AM Seats look good and strait! No up dates as of yet but that could be due to the fact that for the last week and a half I have been in Germany and now we are in Switzerland for a week. I should be back the week of the 5th. I stole some time while the wife was in the shower to check the net but hook up time is very slow where we are. I will talk to you all later!
Kevin
LFD Inc.
68 short step 09-27-2006, 10:20 AM nice
Rokcrln 10-15-2006, 07:34 PM Sine I got back from Germany I have beed working on the firewall and got it primmed today. Now the block sanding and then it will be ready for paint. Next the chassie will be comming over so I can get all the sheet metal lined up and modified and the bed built. Then the rest of the body work will be finished and off to paint.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
red71cheyenne 10-15-2006, 09:42 PM Wow, now that is SMOOTH! Great looking work Kevin! What kind of primer are you using?
Rokcrln 10-15-2006, 10:03 PM It is called "Extreme" somthing or other. SanLeandro paints recomended it when using PPG as a finish paint. It is a bare metal primer or can be used over filler and can be reduced for a sealer as well.
Kevin
LFD Inc.
jimmydean 10-15-2006, 10:11 PM Removing the wire gutter thing makes a huge difference. That looks great!
gringoloco 10-15-2006, 11:41 PM What are the plans for the fuse box?
jugernot 10-16-2006, 04:41 AM It's getting there. It had been 6 years and soon the truck will be one piece. I can't wait to get the chassis and bed over to your shop. I can't thankyou enough for the excellent effort you have put into my truck. I'm looking forward to the day my wife, daughter and I can go for a cruise.
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