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FRENCHBLUE72
01-04-2007, 09:58 PM
THE bigger caddy taillights not sure what the car model was called but it has the big led taillights on it.

soala70
01-04-2007, 11:28 PM
Hart I get 12 7/8 to 13 inches in those places and mine are all factory installed holes.

Hart_Rod
01-05-2007, 07:30 AM
Hart I get 12 7/8 to 13 inches in those places and mine are all factory installed holes.


Thanks, man! Here's another good reference that Bill (Palf70step) just posted in the FAQ.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=1971137#post1971137

gringoloco
01-06-2007, 01:34 AM
Here's a couple of teaser pictures of the tail light area. Any guesses on what I have planned....????????


Don't know, but I always thought the fleetside tails would look good...

68burb
01-06-2007, 03:52 PM
Here's a couple of teaser pictures of the tail light area. Any guesses on what I have planned....????????

h2 taillights?

atleast from what I have drawn up for mine yours are about the same cut out.


oh yeah my 1st post, LMAO

Hart_Rod
01-07-2007, 04:59 PM
Here's a couple of teaser pictures of the tail light area. Any guesses on what I have planned....????????

Someone hit the nail on the head, but I'm not going to say who until I have it completed. Fedex dude dropped off some more bling yesterday. Thanks PIKMUP.

R

68GMC454
01-07-2007, 06:01 PM
looks great..personaly if it was me and i was going the way your going id pull the body..and do it right...just me..you putting alot of time and money in it,,would hate for it to go bad in few yrs down the road..plus that darn salt air is rough on stuff...

Hart_Rod
01-08-2007, 12:30 PM
looks great..personaly if it was me and i was going the way your going id pull the body..and do it right...just me..you putting alot of time and money in it,,would hate for it to go bad in few yrs down the road..plus that darn salt air is rough on stuff...

I've went this far, so we're probably going to pull it off the frame even though I swore I wasn't going to do that :lol: .

68burb
01-08-2007, 12:42 PM
yeah I don't wanna pull mine off the frame either cause I know it'll take me that much longer to get it back together. but I do want to do the body mounts but i can't find the jegs or summit listing for the kit you showed
#3-4149 from energy suspension.

Hart_Rod
01-08-2007, 12:53 PM
yeah I don't wanna pull mine off the frame either cause I know it'll take me that much longer to get it back together. but I do want to do the body mounts but i can't find the jegs or summit listing for the kit you showed
#3-4149 from energy suspension.

That's the part I don't like about pulling off the frame, I'm sure it will add a monght to the project. As for the bushings, call them. It's a fairly new part that they don't list on the internet. There will be a G or an R on the end for black or red.

Rob

68burb
01-08-2007, 05:16 PM
thanks I'll just call them.
I really like the gas struts for the hatch that you did. For mine with the lift i have I can't get the hatch to fully upen to use the factory slider lifts.

once this thing is road worthy I have a 69 gmc 2wd burb that i want to drag home and cut it up into a 2door 69 tahoe. the body is just toast but the right cuts will get all the rust out. and make a dialy driver with a basic 350 and a 700r4.

FRENCHBLUE72
01-08-2007, 08:02 PM
Any word on the taillights....... Just wondering if I was right... probly not but its worth a shot..

67Fleet
01-08-2007, 08:07 PM
more pics Rob!!!!! I can't wait to see this one finished.

Hart_Rod
01-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Did a little panel fitting today. It actually looks like a truck again and got me a little motivated.:metal:

Hart_Rod
01-08-2007, 08:17 PM
Any word on the taillights....... Just wondering if I was right... probly not but its worth a shot..

Someone nailed it, but I'm not going to say who until I get it completed:) .

68burb
01-10-2007, 07:18 PM
updates?

Hart_Rod
01-10-2007, 10:50 PM
Just a small update. I sliced the passenger side rocker and have it lined up with the door now. Hopefully I will knock out the drivers side tomorrow.

IvelDesigns
01-10-2007, 11:55 PM
i had never thought about doing that to my rockers to make them line up better. currently the bottom of my doors do not line up well, but the rest of the door does.

are those factory rockers? or did someone install them?

texanidiot25
01-11-2007, 01:27 AM
Looks like the H2 lights to me. No cadi lights would fit like that.

This thing is sick, and helpfull too. On down the long road, Id like to drop mine onto the ground, and this thread has given my a real good look at the suspension.

About how long did it take you to do the rockers, in hours? Mine are well rusted, so thats on my todo list...

68GMC454
01-11-2007, 05:48 AM
looks good...thats the bad thing about all this work,,,just keeps snow balling..so far with all the junk ive owned,,i have never felt the urge to do a frame off..and dont and cant afford to do it now,,but will get the body right then later on worry about it..maybe after all kids are gone...

Hart_Rod
01-11-2007, 04:29 PM
About how long did it take you to do the rockers, in hours? Mine are well rusted, so thats on my todo list...


If you just have to replace the rocker, first one will probably take about 3 hrs. The other side will go quicker. Do the passenger side first, so if you mess up you don't have to see it every time you get into the truck. If you have to replace other stuff, (floors, inner rockers, dogleg) it will take more time.

Hart_Rod
01-11-2007, 04:31 PM
i had never thought about doing that to my rockers to make them line up better. currently the bottom of my doors do not line up well, but the rest of the door does.

are those factory rockers? or did someone install them?

They are Goodmark/Triplus rockers. I installed them myself. I should have checked them better before I installed them. I will next time.

YRU351
01-11-2007, 05:50 PM
they look like they will be h2's... just my educated guess though... coming from being a mini trucker, i've seen MANY cadillac conversions... they are all long and skinny... thats just my 17 year old guess though...

texanidiot25
01-11-2007, 06:08 PM
Thanks for the info, Ill see about the floor later when its home. :eek:

Hart_Rod
01-11-2007, 10:03 PM
Got the passenger side rocker fixed.

68burb
01-12-2007, 03:08 AM
I need to order mine still. I'm gonna get mine through LMC.
and my 406 engine kit from Summit.
my engine crossmember, spring plates and shackles should be here for this weekends work.

Hart_Rod
01-12-2007, 07:22 PM
Any word on the taillights....... Just wondering if I was right... probly not but its worth a shot..

OK, I guess I'm going to have to let the cat out of the bag before I get this completed (plus I NEED SOME HELP!!!!!). Gringo got it correct. I'm installing the truck tail lights on the Burb. Where does the help come in you ask, well, I need a left and right bedend that is in good shape with no dents (approximately the last 8 inches - top to bottom). I had 2 decent ones that are good for mock up, but I don't want to weld them in. If you have either or, let me know how much you need for them. Thanks in advance.

Rob

PS Here's a partial mock-up of the passenger side.

gringoloco
01-12-2007, 08:48 PM
OK, I guess I'm going to have to let the cat out of the bag before I get this completed (plus I NEED SOME HELP!!!!!). Gringo got it correct. I'm installing the truck tail lights on the Burb. Where does the help come in you ask, well, I need a left and right bedend that is in good shape with no dents (approximately the last 8 inches - top to bottom). I had 2 decent ones that are good for mock up, but I don't want to weld them in. If you have either or, let me know how much you need for them. Thanks in advance.

Rob

PS Here's a partial mock-up of the passenger side.

Sweet! I looked at my spare bedsides- all trashed in the area you need:(

Frizzle Fry
01-12-2007, 09:50 PM
OK, I guess I'm going to have to let the cat out of the bag before I get this completed (plus I NEED SOME HELP!!!!!). Gringo got it correct. I'm installing the truck tail lights on the Burb. Where does the help come in you ask, well, I need a left and right bedend that is in good shape with no dents (approximately the last 8 inches - top to bottom). I had 2 decent ones that are good for mock up, but I don't want to weld them in. If you have either or, let me know how much you need for them. Thanks in advance.

Rob

PS Here's a partial mock-up of the passenger side.

Nice! Been wanting to see that done:metal:

Hart_Rod
01-14-2007, 06:32 PM
Sweet! I looked at my spare bedsides- all trashed in the area you need:(

Thanks for looking. I was hoping someone would have a longbed that they were junking that would work. Worse case scenario, I'll whack them off of Donkey :D!

bagged91
01-17-2007, 03:20 PM
Rob,
I have a drivers side Goodmark swb bedside over my dad's house that I picked up to fix the wheel arch area on my burb(it was a damaged one). I will look at the taillight area, if it's OK, then you pay for shipping & it's yours... I won't be able to get up there until Saturday... Will let you know by Monday unless you want to call me on Sat night...

L8R - Joe

P.S.

I'm getting "Progress Envy"... I want to work on mine :(

I also have "Donkey Envy" ... I almost bought one of the "conversion" crewcabs right before my ex & I split up... It was very rough though...

Hart_Rod
01-17-2007, 10:23 PM
Joe,

If you take pics of the wheel arch areas that you need (or give me some dimensions), I may have your patches.

Rob

LUV2XCLR8
01-17-2007, 10:29 PM
Looking good :metal:

Hart_Rod
01-17-2007, 11:07 PM
Looking good :metal:

Thanks LUV. I've been keeping an eye on Merlot and looks like you are making some good progress on it also.

Well I thought I had fixed all the rust until I media stripped it and found a some more on the 3rd door rocker lip and floor section where the door seal goes. I had planned to just just repair the lip and patch the floor. But the more I thought about it, the more I figured I'd better fix it now or I would be kiicking myself in the butt in a couple of years when the rust finally popped through. So, I ordered a new rocker and cut the old one off. Just my luck, I cut off a perfectly good rocker. :o :rolleyes: It had a little bit of surface rust, but otherwise was in good shape. Guess it's better to be safe than sorry. On a better note, the new rocker fits great and will only require minor adjustments. The old rocker did come in handy, I'm using it for a patch in the curved floor section :metal: .

Hart_Rod
01-17-2007, 11:13 PM
I removed the inner rocker (it basically unbolted) so I can make the repairs to the floor area. Here is the patch panel I made out of the old rocker, :/. The new rocker fits pretty well and will require only some minor trimming. Should get it blasted and primered so I can weld it back on this weekend.

R

red71cheyenne
01-17-2007, 11:20 PM
Great Project and thanks for all the progress pics. Hopefully when we get back from the Gulf, I'll get Blazer done and be able to drive it. Maybe around the same time you finish the Burb! Good to know a former EM is into trucks, I'm an ICCS on an aircraft carrier and have been into these since before the Navy. Keep up the good work and I'll keep watching from out here! Jeff.

Hart_Rod
01-21-2007, 08:40 AM
Well I doesn't seem like much but I got the rust replaced in the drip rail on the inner rocker. It sure was a lot of welding for the few pin holes that were there (56 inches!!!!) :( . But now I can say it is rust free :) and I don't have to worry about it coming back. :metal: Just a little more trimming on the outer rocker and I should be able to weld it on.

bodydropped68
01-23-2007, 03:26 PM
OK, I guess I'm going to have to let the cat out of the bag before I get this completed (plus I NEED SOME HELP!!!!!). Gringo got it correct. I'm installing the truck tail lights on the Burb. Where does the help come in you ask, well, I need a left and right bedend that is in good shape with no dents (approximately the last 8 inches - top to bottom). I had 2 decent ones that are good for mock up, but I don't want to weld them in. If you have either or, let me know how much you need for them. Thanks in advance.

Rob

PS Here's a partial mock-up of the passenger side.

hey rob whats up when i put truck taillites in my suburban i flatend the edge around the truck taillite opening and put it in the old taillite opening in the burb. what you have in the picture is plenty to work with,any questions pm or call me. ps i'm still first on your list. later paul

Hart_Rod
01-23-2007, 05:06 PM
hey rob whats up when i put truck taillites in my suburban i flatend the edge around the truck taillite opening and put it in the old taillite opening in the burb. what you have in the picture is plenty to work with,any questions pm or call me. ps i'm still first on your list. later paul

Paul - do you have any pictures of what it looked like when you were done? The CrewCab should be headed east the first of Feb:metal: .

bodydropped68
01-23-2007, 07:49 PM
yeah i'm keeping a close watch on I-10 for it lol, i new you would be asking that let me see what i can do i sold it about 2 years ago but i think i can still get i touch with the new owner. later paul

cojnit
01-24-2007, 12:09 PM
definately inspiration

Hart_Rod
02-03-2007, 12:43 PM
I've got the 3rd door rocker welded in. A little bit more work on the driver's side rocker and then on to the tail lights. :metal:

Hart_Rod
02-09-2007, 09:16 PM
Passenger side rockers are completely welded in. I also fixed the drivers side rocker so that it lines up with the door. All the rust has finally been repaired and now I get to play around with the tail lights. :D

Pop's72
02-09-2007, 09:37 PM
Looking good Rob, keep it up! :metal:

Hart_Rod
03-03-2007, 09:27 PM
Not much progress in the last three weeks...... birthdays (wife's 40th, so I worked hard not to mess that up!), anniversary, and my son just started spring baseball. So, I got a little sidetracked but here's a small update. I got a set of buddy buckets with the CrewCab. Initially, I was just going to sell them, but then I decided they would probably be pretty cool in the suburban.:metal: I've stripped all the foam off of them and did some minor welding repair on one of the frames. Should have them blasted and painted next week and then they'll be ready for the new foam cushions I got from PICKMUP (thanks Frank) and then the new custom seat covers.

Frizzle Fry
03-04-2007, 03:37 AM
Those will be cool in there!

swissfacade
03-04-2007, 05:13 PM
Hi Rob
I have a question about my 69 burb with a 2 piece drive shaft, I am lowering mine approx 5.5" in the rear. Do I need to modify my carrier bearing mount. our does someone sell them already modified.

Thanks John D

Hart_Rod
03-04-2007, 05:26 PM
I'm running bags and a 2" lowering block in the back (with a bolt in C-notch). I had no issue with my driveshafts. Hopefully that won't change when I put the 5.3/4L60E in. :)

swissfacade
03-04-2007, 05:44 PM
How low does your your rear go. also did you have to change out or modifiy the trailing arm cross member.

Hart_Rod
03-04-2007, 05:54 PM
How low does your your rear go. also did you have to change out or modifiy the trailing arm cross member.

With the bags aired out, the rear sits on the bump stops (short) and the top of the differential cover just touches the wooden floor.

Hart_Rod
03-06-2007, 08:25 PM
Got the seat brackets blasted and painted (POR15). Will probably take them to the upholsterer tomorrow. I also made a little progress on the tail lights, but I'm not quite ready to post pics yet. But I'll put it this way, there's no turning back now. :hm:

Joe Gribben
03-06-2007, 08:27 PM
looking good you must have changed your mind,keeping buddybuckets good choice

Hart_Rod
03-10-2007, 09:01 AM
looking good you must have changed your mind,keeping buddybuckets good choice

Once I realized that they tilted forward, I thought it would be nice to have access to the back from the drivers side. I went by the my upholster yesterday and he's almost got the rear seats done and is getting ready to do the buckets. I just picked up a center console box from BigJake97 (because my was damaged) which was all that I needed to finish the seats out. He should have them done next week. I'll post pics when he does. Here's a super secret spy photo of the tail light mod I'm doing. :lol:

Frizzle Fry
03-10-2007, 12:53 PM
Wow, looks great! Why didn't they do that from the factory??? Love it!

Wootdog
03-10-2007, 06:33 PM
Awesome as always. I wish you lived near me. You wouldn't have time for work on your own stuff. you would be working on mine. Keep up the good work. Kerry:bling2:

Hart_Rod
03-10-2007, 10:01 PM
Wow, looks great! Why didn't they do that from the factory??? Love it!

Thanks Frizzle. I think I've about got everything figured as far as tieing it all together. Either tomorrow of Monday I'm going to put some step by step pics together and show the progress.

Awesome as always. I wish you lived near me. You wouldn't have time for work on your own stuff. you would be working on mine. Keep up the good work. Kerry:bling2:

Thanks alot Woot. I could do this stuff 24/7 if time and $$$ permitted. Maybe in a couple of years when I retire...........

shifty
03-10-2007, 10:29 PM
Man, you need to do something about that rust between the tail lights :D

dan468
03-11-2007, 06:50 PM
Hart Rod, in your opinion what's the best way to ensure no scuffs on door hinges and their bolts? As difficult as lining doors up can be, after you paint these components you're sure to mar or scuff them. Do you paint this part after the doors are already on?

Hart_Rod
03-12-2007, 11:00 PM
Man, you need to do something about that rust between the tail lights :D
Working on it. Just a few more days........:lol:

Hart Rod, in your opinion what's the best way to ensure no scuffs on door hinges and their bolts? As difficult as lining doors up can be, after you paint these components you're sure to mar or scuff them. Do you paint this part after the doors are already on?
Use stainless bolts and lots and lots of masking tape! :D

****

Got the frame for my buddy buckest fixed today. I un-"customized " it, :rolleyes: . PO decided to whack the center bar out. Luckily I have access to a very talented electrician, :but: you say.. an electrician?? Well, this one is very good at bending conduit. He made me a piece to match the one that was cut out. It required several very cloe bends to match the original bar. So, got that welded in and sand blasted. A coat of paint and off to the upholster's shop. :clap:

Hart_Rod
03-12-2007, 11:02 PM
More pics of seat bracket. I made quite a bit of progress on the tail lights, but should really hit paydirt tomorrow. I will post LOTS of pictures tomorrow night, for now this is the best that I can do,:haha: .

Hart_Rod
03-15-2007, 12:48 AM
Long day in the shop. Just a couple of quick pics. My seats are almost done.:metal: And a few of where I am with the tail light mod. I'll try to do a better step by step post tomorrow.

Frizzle Fry
03-15-2007, 01:19 AM
Good stuff man! Did you put a 3rd brake light on the liftgate?

Hart_Rod
03-17-2007, 11:03 AM
Good stuff man! Did you put a 3rd brake light on the liftgate?


Nice catch!

Here's some pictures of my buckets. I had him put in some heat warmers too (for those cold NW FL days!).

pcmcobra
03-17-2007, 12:17 PM
love the seat cover choice...
Rob, still waiting for an invitation to come look at your work :)
What's up with this weather? 2 days ago it was like 80, this morning it was 40!
We should meet up at the bk again soon, let me know when you think you can make it, maybe the other locals can make it also...will have to make a post see if we can all make it soon.

LUV2XCLR8
03-17-2007, 12:27 PM
I had him put in some heat warmers too

How hard was that to do? Have you tested them yet?

Hart_Rod
03-17-2007, 01:36 PM
love the seat cover choice...
Rob, still waiting for an invitation to come look at your work :)
What's up with this weather? 2 days ago it was like 80, this morning it was 40!
We should meet up at the bk again soon, let me know when you think you can make it, maybe the other locals can make it also...will have to make a post see if we can all make it soon.

Your welcome any time, PM me for my cell # (next Saturday???). I'm going to BK this evening. Should be there around 4:30 or 5:00. TTYL.

How hard was that to do? Have you tested them yet?

It's pretty straight forward. Just lay them on top of the seat cushion (I'm sure he put a little glue on them to hold them in place). Haven't tested them yet, maybe sometime this week.

R

Hart_Rod
03-21-2007, 08:43 PM
Got my center console today from BIGJAKE97. It looks almost good enough to use as is. If I hadn't planned on putting cupholders in the armrest, I probably would. Thanks again JAKE.

LOW DOUGH
03-29-2007, 06:01 PM
I just finished reading through this hole thread. I like it. I am going to keep coming back to see your progress. It is looking great.

Hart_Rod
03-29-2007, 10:02 PM
I just finished reading through this hole thread. I like it. I am going to keep coming back to see your progress. It is looking great.

Thanks for the compliment Reaper. I am going to try and post a bunch of pictures on the tail light mod this weekend. I know I've been saying this for a couple of weeks, but I've been pretty swamped. I will make it happen this weekend, :).

Hart_Rod
04-06-2007, 08:46 PM
OK, I know I have been saying I was going to do a write up and post pictures of my tail light mod for the last month or so........however work, kids, life have taken most of my free time. However, I got a little time tonight and I'll try to catch everyone up with where I'm at. I'm not done yet, but I'm getting close.

The first thing I did when I started thinking about this project was to get a truck bed end and started wacking on it to see the body lines and shapes were going to line up. I was really suprised on how close they were.I fiigured it was doable with a "little" work.:hm:

Hart_Rod
04-06-2007, 08:56 PM
Initially I was going to just cut the tail lights in and make them line up with the tailgate. But the more I look at it I realized that was going to work because the truck tail lights are straight and the Burb tail gate has a slight curve to it. HHHMMMM, so what to do???? Well, I bought a tail gate skin from Mar-K and to play around with.

Hart_Rod
04-06-2007, 09:04 PM
The Mar-K tailgate skin definitely helped me get the project going. With it, I was able to get both tail lights lined up and in postion and it helped me figure out what I was going to have to do to the suburban tailgate. For those with weak stomachs, you might want to turn away, because I'm getting ready to start wacking on some really nice sheetmetal, :D. First, I cut the skin off of the tailgate. With the skin off, you can really see the amount of curvature thats in it from top to bottom.

Hart_Rod
04-06-2007, 09:15 PM
Next, in order to get the new truck tail gate skin to fit, I had to take the curvature out of the Suburban tail gate. I did this by slicing the edge so I could move it in until it was flat, and then tack weld it. Next, ground off the curved part and finished welding it up. Pretty simple, ehhh.

Hart_Rod
04-06-2007, 09:25 PM
After I did both sides, I was able to put truck tailgate skin in place and get a good idea of how it was going to look when it was done. The suburban tailgate is narrower than the truck tailgate. Since the overall dimensions of the truck and suburban are the same, after I cut the new skin to fit the suburban tail gate, I took the other pieces and welded them to the truck bed ends to make up the difference.

Hart_Rod
04-06-2007, 09:27 PM
Some more pictures with everything mocked up.