View Full Version : Air Ride List. What else do I need?


jkade
09-14-2006, 01:08 PM
3/8" OD x 3/8" NPTF Male Branch Tee 13.32
Firestone 224c 2600 139.98
3/8" SMC Valve 8 Pack (Free Shipping) 219.99
Viair 450 150 PSI colorChrome 189.95
67-87 Fullsize Chevy Single Port Upper Plates 34.99
Firestone 255c 2500 139.98
Black 5 Gallon 8 Port 54.99
SMC Water Trap 3/8" 29.99
110/145 PSI Non-Adj 18.99
3/8" OD x 3/8" NPTF Male Elbow 19.20
Airlift Easystreet 200 PSI Single Needle 29.98
Airlift Easystreet 200 PSI Dual Needle 59.98
25ft of 1/4" DOT Reinforced Air Line 5.99
50ft of 3/8" DOT Reinforced Air Line 19.99
Subotal: 977.32
What all am I missing for the air ride setup?

hotrodhomi
09-14-2006, 03:15 PM
What about switchs and wiring?

jkade
09-14-2006, 03:48 PM
What about switchs and wiring?

I already have that.

hotrodhomi
09-14-2006, 06:40 PM
where are you going to mount your tank?

jkade
09-14-2006, 08:20 PM
where are you going to mount your tank?

I was thinking a three gallon tank on each frame rail behind the rear tires.

LUV2XCLR8
09-14-2006, 09:34 PM
I need my wiring run, wanna come to my cookout and help ? ? ?

jkade
09-14-2006, 09:48 PM
I need my wiring run, wanna come to my cookout and help ? ? ?

Do you have enough beer?;)

LUV2XCLR8
09-14-2006, 09:57 PM
Do you have enough beer?;)

If you come this far I will not run out ;)

jkade
09-14-2006, 10:06 PM
If you come this far I will not run out ;)
You probably woudn't want me to mess with anything you have since I have never messed with air ride. I do have a list of chores that need to be done to mine. Lets see here, remove body panels, shave door handles and marker lights, sand door jams, shave gas filler neck and install fuel door, find a 1/2 top, make custom bed cover, install 3.73's and eaton posi, install rear disk brakes, put headders on, run the satinless exhaust, install the edelbrock pro flo, block sand all body panels and paint. I hope I will be happy after I get all this done. So anyone want to come help poor old me out?:(

jkade
09-14-2006, 10:11 PM
You probably woudn't want me to mess with anything you have since I have never messed with air ride. I do have a list of chores that need to be done to mine. Lets see here, remove body panels, shave door handles and marker lights, sand door jams, shave gas filler neck and install fuel door, find a 1/2 top, make custom bed cover, install 3.73's and eaton posi, install rear disk brakes, put headders on, run the satinless exhaust, install the edelbrock pro flo, block sand all body panels and paint. I hope I will be happy after I get all this done. So anyone want to come help poor old me out?:(
I forgot about the 67-68 truck trim. Dang I need to get my wife a second job.

bagged74
09-14-2006, 10:21 PM
Firestone 255c 2500 139.98

What all am I missing for the air ride setup?

why the 2500 bags instead of 4 2600s?

jkade
09-14-2006, 10:38 PM
why the 2500 bags instead of 4 2600s?

Would 4 2600's be better?

meathead95
09-14-2006, 11:00 PM
my buddy at work is BIG in the mini scene and he tells me the viair460 is a better compressor and they dont make the 450 anymore so if you ever need parts for it they may be scarce

N2TRUX
09-14-2006, 11:15 PM
Just so you know the ViAir compressors are very good, but very LOUD. Plan on mounting it as far back as possible.

Unfortunately this still isn't far enough...:(

pharcyde05
09-15-2006, 01:44 PM
Would 4 2600's be better?

yes the 2600 would be better but if you want to upgrage from that go with a slam spec bag and if you dont want to go with the viair comp there is a company that is called air zenith that is what i am useing i will get a pic for you

pharcyde05
09-15-2006, 01:54 PM
are you just going to have front and back control or sides also
you might want to think about a higher psi presure switch cause 145 might have a lil trouble lifting the front and you are probley going to want some check valves so you dont get air blead back from tank to comp or from bags back to tank
do you have the brackets for the back bag mounts and for the lower on the front

BUDDY
09-15-2006, 02:02 PM
3/8" OD x 3/8" NPTF Male Branch Tee 13.32
Firestone 224c 2600 139.98
3/8" SMC Valve 8 Pack (Free Shipping) 219.99
Viair 450 150 PSI colorChrome 189.95
67-87 Fullsize Chevy Single Port Upper Plates 34.99
Firestone 255c 2500 139.98
Black 5 Gallon 8 Port 54.99
SMC Water Trap 3/8" 29.99
110/145 PSI Non-Adj 18.99
3/8" OD x 3/8" NPTF Male Elbow 19.20
Airlift Easystreet 200 PSI Single Needle 29.98
Airlift Easystreet 200 PSI Dual Needle 59.98
25ft of 1/4" DOT Reinforced Air Line 5.99
50ft of 3/8" DOT Reinforced Air Line 19.99
Subotal: 977.32
What all am I missing for the air ride setup?

I say York (http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/KE-26710.htm) it. You still have to find a compressor & the clutch (http://motors.search.ebay.com/york-compressor_W0QQfromZR40QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQssPageNameZWLRS) . Maybe more expensive, but you'll never regret spending the extra cash. Nor will you hear it running.

Later,

Buddy

pharcyde05
09-15-2006, 02:16 PM
I say York (http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/KE-26710.htm) it. You still have to find a compressor & the clutch (http://motors.search.ebay.com/york-compressor_W0QQfromZR40QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQssPageNameZWLRS) . Maybe more expensive, but you'll never regret spending the extra cash. Nor will you hear it running.

Later,

Buddy


he has a very good point belt drivencompressors make no sound and have a very high output you just have to find a way to mount it witch means if no company makes a bracket you have to fab one and the cost is more
i have one on my silverado and have loved it 4 the last 4 years
i only went with elect on my blazer cauase its not going to be my daily driver only a summer cruiser

jkade
09-15-2006, 02:34 PM
he has a very good point belt drivencompressors make no sound and have a very high output you just have to find a way to mount it witch means if no company makes a bracket you have to fab one and the cost is more
i have one on my silverado and have loved it 4 the last 4 years
i only went with elect on my blazer cauase its not going to be my daily driver only a summer cruiser

I don' t have the plates yet or any of the other. I read that you can get by without the lower cups. On the back I was thinking about notcing my arms so the bag would mount lower. I figured I would need check valves and I don't see much room to mount a belt driven compressor since I am running a big block with factory air. I have been looking at the slam bags and I think they would be fine also. I appreciate all the help and keep it coming. I am a novice at best on air ride.

BUDDY
09-15-2006, 03:38 PM
I don' t have the plates yet or any of the other. I read that you can get by without the lower cups. On the back I was thinking about notcing my arms so the bag would mount lower. I figured I would need check valves and I don't see much room to mount a belt driven compressor since I am running a big block with factory air. I have been looking at the slam bags and I think they would be fine also. I appreciate all the help and keep it coming. I am a novice at best on air ride.

Are the accessories v-belt or serp? The link I had for Kilby's site is for a sb I know, but just look at the picture. At the least it would be a good starting point to modify or build you're own bracket. You should give Brad a call, he's a reasonable guy & very customer oriented. He may be working on something, or already have something that could work with some work.

Later,

Buddy

pharcyde05
09-15-2006, 03:42 PM
I don' t have the plates yet or any of the other. I read that you can get by without the lower cups. On the back I was thinking about notcing my arms so the bag would mount lower. I figured I would need check valves and I don't see much room to mount a belt driven compressor since I am running a big block with factory air. I have been looking at the slam bags and I think they would be fine also. I appreciate all the help and keep it coming. I am a novice at best on air ride.

well you dont have to use the cups on the bottom you just have to have a way to bolt on the bottom of the bag i have seen some where they have used plates on mine i cut out and droped bottom of a arm so i would be able to get front lower i will get you some detailed pics of how mine is set up and you can work from that there are many diff ways to do this alot of peopl put the bag in the same spot as the rear spring you just need plate to bolt the bag too and i would think that by nothing the trailing arm you would lose some streanth in it

jkade
09-15-2006, 04:06 PM
well you dont have to use the cups on the bottom you just have to have a way to bolt on the bottom of the bag i have seen some where they have used plates on mine i cut out and droped bottom of a arm so i would be able to get front lower i will get you some detailed pics of how mine is set up and you can work from that there are many diff ways to do this alot of peopl put the bag in the same spot as the rear spring you just need plate to bolt the bag too and i would think that by nothing the trailing arm you would lose some streanth in it
I figured if I notched it I would put a piece of flat on the bottom and weld it and weld in plates as wide as the trailing arm were I cut it so it will look good and give it a little support. I stole this idea from the rear arms on bagged 74's blazer. I for sure want to see how your setup is.
Thanks, Kade

pharcyde05
09-15-2006, 08:37 PM
front end down

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/pharcyde05/blazer/blazer10-1.jpg

this is with about 100 psi

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/pharcyde05/blazer/blazer11-1.jpg

C10-Driver
09-17-2006, 09:12 PM
N2TRUX:

Could you provide me with some detail on your rear setup. I have a leaf rear-end on my 70 SWB and will be baggin' it this winter. Are those the F9000 bags? If so, do they have a 1/4" air inlet?

The reason I ask is that I don't want to overbuild my system. I want to have basic control (front / back) and am not too concerned about speed. I notice that a lot of folks are running 1/2" valves and lines. If the inlet size is only 1/4" then why do I need a 1/2" valve (get my drift). The fill speed is only going to be as fast as the smallest component.

Any details you could provide would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.

pharcyde05
09-19-2006, 01:39 PM
there are alot of factors in building a set up and keeping the leafs on that type of set up you can only get as low as you can lower it and then you use the bags to go up from there i will get you sone picks of leaf set ups most of the ones we do are link set up but i can give you a few ideas

and the bags are slam spec rs72 they have 1/2 ports i know that speed might not be a factor but just keep in mong if you go all 1/4 it is a lot of work to make it go faster if its too slow of you dont have enuff pressre for the amount of weight you need to lift and if you start with 1/2 and its too fast you just have to reduce it down to slow it down and they make adjusters that go in line to do that

pharcyde05
09-19-2006, 01:42 PM
hear is a full link set up with bags behing axel its trianglated so there in no pan hard bar

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/pharcyde05/dime/dime3.jpg

C10-Driver
09-21-2006, 12:15 AM
Point well taken about the line sizes and speed. I am going to stay with the leaf spring rear-end so my choices on bags are somewhat limited. The Air-Over-Leaf systems with tapered bags are about my only choice. Most of the bags I have seen with these systems have a 1/4" inlet. Based on what you suggested, I may go with larger valves and lines and reduce just before I get to the bag.

As far as the deflated rear height goes, when the vehicle is sitting on the springs, it is as low as it will go (without hitting a bump of course). I am thinking about 8 or 9 inches of total drop in the rear. I already have about 7" with the flip and re-arched springs and will probably add some blocks to get it down the extra couple of inches.

Thanks a lot for your input. I will check out the Slam bags a little more and see what else they have for my application.

pharcyde05
09-21-2006, 11:46 AM
you dont have to stay with the sleave bags you can put some of the standard bags on with a over the axel kit where you mount a pearch on top of axel for bottom of bag to attach then put crossmemeber in at the top of the notch where the top of the bag can mount i am still trying to get you some pics i will shearch more today

pharcyde05
09-21-2006, 08:25 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/pharcyde05/air%20bags/axel1.jpghttp://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/pharcyde05/air%20bags/axel2.jpg