View Full Version : Finally beginning the restore of my 1968 C 10 shortbed stepside truck
sniperpix 04-26-2007, 03:35 PM NEW MEMBER HERE
This truck was bought NEW in 1967 in PA by my moms 2nd husband, they were divorced at the time, he dropped dead 3 months after buying it, the truck was put into the garage area of a building he owned along with all other kinds of stuff and covered with an army tent. He had a large estate which was fought over by his siblings and children for over 20 years. In the meantime a lousy lawyer oversaw it, whenever he needed to sell something to pay taxes he called my mother in a panic. Around 1980 he called and begged for help , she bought the building the truck was in and all its contents, truck included.
It had under 3000 miles on it. One of my older brothers tried to drive it and could never get use to it, his lasting mark was a slice through the body part right below the driver side windshield near the door and fender when he hit a trash dumpster. The truck went back into a garage until i pulled it out in 1984 to drive around as a firewood collector and hunting truck, i was 14, didn't take it on the state roads, just around my mothers property.
I slowly fixed it and used it as a daily driver from 1986 to 1996, left it with 33,000 miles on it and in kinda rough shape. The truck was always owned on paper by my mothers business for insurance purposes. I had a lot of wrecks with other cars when i was young.
So i moved to San Diego from PA in 1996 and left the truck in moms driveway. She died in 2001. My brother took over her business and was executor of her estate. He agreed to let the truck sit at the property in a garage until i was ready to do something with it. He ran her business into the ground a few years later and held an auction of all assets. I bought the truck prior to the auction for $200.
I was due to inherit X amount of dollars from our mothers estate and he and his lawyer decided to lie - cheat - steal their way out of it, so i filed a lawsuit, actually 3 different ones. He still held title to the truck though, i wasn't slick enough to get the title first i guess, it was a deal done over the phone from CA to PA and i mailed a check.
So, i had the truck "stolen" in the middle of the night and hid at a friends place in PA. My brother didn't care but he also refused to turn over title. Our lawyers are finally coming to a conclusion over the whole mess. 2 months ago i heard from an old friend who said he was into restoring vehicles and wanted to know what i evr did with the truck. We talked and he is going to begin restoration, a Frame - UP job.
So i called the other friend where the truck WAS SUPPOSE TO BE and his mom said .......................... I sent that P.O.S. to the scrap yard 6 months ago. I was heartbroke, i began tryign to find it and did, it is still there in PA, only thing missing is the radiator.
My restore buddy picks it up next week and will begin the long and slow restore process.
I will drop in pics and more info when i have time
He is going to put in a Chevy 350 engine and new tranny, I have the original 6 cyl engine and tranny and don't know what to do with it. Some things i need are:
Radiator
all new rear body parts for 1968 C 10 step side
a very good quality driver door or just outside "skin"
2 trailing or swing arms
the engine was never removed or rebuilt, it is as original as you can get, about 33,000 miles on it, tranny is 3 speed manual
it is reported to have run OK, no smoke, or any odd sounds in 2005 and the tranny operated correctly as well.
The restore will occur around East Stroudsburg PA, if you know any good parts places or junkyards than please let me know
Orange 04-26-2007, 03:53 PM First of all - WELCOME TO THE BOARD! Hope you like it here - sounds like you are going to fit in just fine.
Second of all - WOW! What a story!
Third of all - everyone (including me) wants pics. I speak for the legion of members on this site. So, if you don't have any, start trying to get some. :D
Fourth of all - only subscribers can list sales/trades. It's just the rules. So you may want to just say that you have an original 6 cyl. engine and leave it at that. The mod's will have to edit it otherwise. For info on subscribing - check it out here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php
And lastly...
Man, it sounds like you were just destined to build this truck. Keep us updated. That is really quite amazing. Sent to the scrapyard and rescued. Wow. Best of luck with it man. Have fun.
DLB
BB72CHEVKT 04-26-2007, 03:59 PM :welcome2: from Texas you lucky SOB. JK
sniperpix 04-26-2007, 04:04 PM http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/ca_sporticus/My%201968%20Chevy%20C%2010/DriverSide-FullView-original-1988.jpg
best i can do right now, i have a few 1987 - 88 era pics and a ton from 2005 and will load them in the coming days - weeks - months, etc
this pic is from 1988 era, i will replace it with a cleaner image later on, copying images from a word doc right now and they transfer in a very blury state
Orange 04-26-2007, 04:15 PM Great! and great on the post edit.
I am sure someone around here could help you with that "PROBLEM" of an original 33,000 mile inline 6 and tranny. ;)
Man - that truck is so stock and cherry it isn't funny! You're a dog! :D
DLB
sniperpix 04-26-2007, 04:29 PM http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/ca_sporticus/My%201968%20Chevy%20C%2010/PassengerSide_fullview-MomsDriveway.jpg
1996 image a week or so before i moved to CA
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http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/ca_sporticus/My%201968%20Chevy%20C%2010/FrontView-DriverSide.jpg
this is from 2005, someone who worked for my brother was allowed to work on the truck, he got it running and was riding around with no doors or hood on it, it was reassembled as a condition of my $200 purchase in 2005, doors and hood are back on, the rear body is 100% useless, i will save the tailgate and bolt it to my garage wall, i drank a lot of beer sitting on that tailgate
sniperpix 04-27-2007, 07:16 PM http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/ca_sporticus/My%201968%20Chevy%20C%2010/rearcrossmemberframeview-rot.jpg
The frame needs a sandblast and powdercoat treatment, but 1st the swing / trailing arms need replacing, they have serious rot on them, i am told the frame is solid and just needs cleaning
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/ca_sporticus/My%201968%20Chevy%20C%2010/rearframetopview-1.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/ca_sporticus/My%201968%20Chevy%20C%2010/ExhaustExitViewunderCabframe.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/ca_sporticus/My%201968%20Chevy%20C%2010/rearframetopviewmuffler.jpg
sniperpix 05-03-2007, 12:26 AM the truck gets picked up tomorrow, i am excited, but i also found out that restoring the short bed stepside with all new parts is like $2500 just for the body and thats not counting the floor
GREASEMONKEY72 05-03-2007, 12:37 AM yea they get pricey sometimes
but that is one hell of a story and i cant wait to see some progress pictures of the restoration
Yukon Jack 05-03-2007, 11:31 AM Great story. The truck looks pretty solid but that frame is a bit rough. Hopefully it will clean up good.
sniperpix 05-03-2007, 11:34 PM he got the truck but the guy at the junk yard bent the "rear cross supports" hauling it around with his tractor, now the rear frame needs work and might be screwed up
anyone know a good junk yard in the eastern PA or west jersey area where i can get a 2nd truck to harvest things from?
radiator
trailing arms
driver door
rear cross supports
and maybe some other stuff
rwgregory 05-04-2007, 01:02 AM Welcome from another So.Cal. member. I'm in Chula Vista, What part of San Diego are you in??
sniperpix 05-04-2007, 01:15 AM San Marcos, near escondido and vista
Rollie396 05-04-2007, 01:19 AM WOW!!That's one of the best stories I've read on this board.A truck that you've chased that hard deserves a name other than "the truck" though.Looking forward to seeing the progress.
sniperpix 05-07-2007, 01:56 PM yeah it should have a name, how aout "money pit" ?
located a possible doner truck with a stepside rear box so i might be very lucky
I emailed several college, high school, and old hunting friends from PA and put out a "bounty" on a truck like mine, got an email from a freind whose remembered my truck and knows where a similar truck sits in a old mans yard, he is a old timer who goes to FLA every winter and is not back yet.
jaros44sr 05-07-2007, 06:12 PM I think I have a rear cross member you can have, somehow I ordered 2. I think it is the most forward one near the cab. I had to get one for a pick up and modify it for my Jimmy. LMK J.
Are you needing frame cross members or pickup bed crosssmembers??
sniperpix 05-07-2007, 06:13 PM I am interested, email me
my LMC catalog also came today.
PanelDeland 05-07-2007, 06:40 PM sniperpix,the LMC catalog is a great assembly manual.It has tons of good photo's of how things go together.But when you get ready to buy parts you should price them thru the BB vendors before ordering.You may be pleasantly surprised.
BTW cool story keep us posted.
sniperpix 05-07-2007, 06:52 PM thanks for that tip, i always shop around for everything i buy, I wish i was in PA for this restore, would be fun i am sure, I am confident my friend will do a good job on it, we grew up together. He knows a ton about cars and trucks. He owns like 4 i think and his mom and dad combined own another 5 or 6. They are car crazy.
Anyone know the rules on registering a pieced together truck? I want to keep this existing VIN as being the truck that is owned by me but in the end its going to be mainly the frame, axles, hood, fenders, and glass from my truck. The 350 engine is coming from elsewhere and the rear box from another truck and the frame repair from assorted trucks or new products. The cab will be a combo on mine, another truck and new stuff.
In the end the truck may only be 33% from this vin #
How is that regulated? Or does the government not even care on these old trucks?
jaros44sr 05-07-2007, 06:52 PM I am interested, email me
my LMC catalog also came today.
Do you need demensions, so we are talking the same pc.?
That catalog is habit forming....
sniperpix 05-07-2007, 07:42 PM what piece do you have? Can you match it to something in the LMC catalog? My friend has this same catalog and i just spoke to him, he said if you look on page 36 for Spare Tire Mounting you can see the 2 bent pieces in the background.
The piece closest to the rear bumper is what i need, the junkyard owner wrapped a chain around it to pull the truck and bent the hell out of it and this snapped the smaller piece behind it, the smaller piece is nothing to worry about because it would be removed to insert a fuel cell gas tank later on anyways.
I guess i only need the piece closest to the rear bumper
jaros44sr 05-08-2007, 06:36 AM No I don't have a LMC cat., but from what you describe, it sounds like a frame crossmember. I have a forward ( closest to the cab) bed crossmember...
I doubt that he could have wrapped a chain around this pc.
Orange 05-08-2007, 12:05 PM yeah it should have a name, how aout "money pit" ?
located a possible doner truck with a stepside rear box so i might be very lucky
I emailed several college, high school, and old hunting friends from PA and put out a "bounty" on a truck like mine, got an email from a freind whose remembered my truck and knows where a similar truck sits in a old mans yard, he is a old timer who goes to FLA every winter and is not back yet.
Everyone has a money pit...
"Inheritance Pay"
Just think - when you are done, everyone will wish they were in your will.
DLB
sniperpix 05-08-2007, 12:07 PM for this bent piece, can a "new" piece be created from a piece of steel? Can't he just cut something to fit and weld it into place?
jaros44sr 05-08-2007, 05:46 PM for this bent piece, can a "new" piece be created from a piece of steel? Can't he just cut something to fit and weld it into place?
Anything is possible, just depends on if you want it original or you can live with what he fabricates....
sniperpix 08-03-2007, 01:48 PM I am back, with good and bad news
good .......................... my POS brother is FINALLY going to give me the title, he claimed for 2 years that i gave him the wrong VIN, so i emailed PA DMV and gave them the VIN + plate # and short story and asked if they would verify if it exists, got an email back within 24 hours saying ...................... yeah, it is here, it has always been here ............. so NOW, with no ability to deny, my brother is getting me the title
BAD ..................... my trucks frame is FUBAR, I thought only replaceable parts like trailing arms were rotted but apparently the frame is damaged where the trailing arms would bolt on, the guy who will do the restore says I need a new frame. This sucks
we did verify that the truck only has 26,903 miles on it, for some reason i thought it was over 30k
not sure what to do next, is there a way to fix the frame? does it make sense to just buy a 2nd truck and restore from there with parts from both?
In the end, at a minimum, I just want a 1968 C-10 shortbed stepside with MY vin #
given my situation, how should I accomplish this?
70' GMC 08-03-2007, 02:23 PM I am back, with good and bad news
good .......................... my POS brother is FINALLY going to give me the title, he claimed for 2 years that i gave him the wrong VIN, so i emailed PA DMV and gave them the VIN + plate # and short story and asked if they would verify if it exists, got an email back within 24 hours saying ...................... yeah, it is here, it has always been here ............. so NOW, with no ability to deny, my brother is getting me the title
BAD ..................... my trucks frame is FUBAR, I thought only replaceable parts like trailing arms were rotted but apparently the frame is damaged where the trailing arms would bolt on, the guy who will do the restore says I need a new frame. This sucks
we did verify that the truck only has 26,903 miles on it, for some reason i thought it was over 30k
not sure what to do next, is there a way to fix the frame? does it make sense to just buy a 2nd truck and restore from there with parts from both?
In the end, at a minimum, I just want a 1968 C-10 shortbed stepside with MY vin #
given my situation, how should I accomplish this?
whats a FUBAR
sniperpix 08-03-2007, 02:39 PM in this case ........................ apparently beyond repair
F'd
Up
Beyond
All
Recognition
the truck sat in a garage until my brother sold the place where it sat, i bought the truck and wanted it shipped to me in CA but could not get it done without title so it sat outside, then got hauled to a local junkyard where it sat in a low lying field , the frame way on ground level and rotted enough to where it is now , apparantly, beyond use
Shock_Me 08-03-2007, 02:54 PM Maybe you just need a new crossmember, where the trailing arms bolt on. Shouldn't be too hard to find one.
Don't underestimate the power of a sandblaster!
sniperpix 08-03-2007, 03:02 PM my question would be .................. am i trying to make chickensalad out of chickencrap ?
trailing arms a re FUBAR
beam where they bolt on is FUBAR
trucks been yanked around 2 junkyards and now the 2 rear beams between the frame are bent and need replacing
you are saying strip it down and sand blast and then evaluate? if the rest is in good shape just replace the useless parts and powdercoat?
Shock_Me 08-03-2007, 03:19 PM Well, that's what I would do. It's getting real hard to find short bed frames these days, and if the side rails are salvageable, you can replace any crossmember in question. You could always cut down a long bed frame too.
Cheers,
Pete
Orange 08-03-2007, 03:20 PM Looks like you are on the right track...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=250980
BTW - If you are looking there, I am sure you saw this one:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=246379
Not that it helps you any being in VA, but there are some for cheap around.
That is the route I would go for sure.
DLB
sniperpix 08-03-2007, 03:32 PM thanks, i will keep looking, my mechanic is looking up a 68 truck he saw for sale in a local paper, was under $1500 and was being driven, still legal for the road.
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