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WWPierre
05-27-2007, 10:55 PM
Hi All,

I was on the chat line the other night, and someone asked me if I had a build thread going, and I promised I would start one, and I am a man of my word, so here it is. I went to the welcome area, and copied my first post:

Peter Legere is my name, and I live with my family on half a block at the south end of Squamish B.C. We have the facilities on site to build or repair almost anything. If you enter 37700 Second Avenue, Squamish B.C. into Google Earth, the marker stops on the street just left of a big oblong blob which is my white roof, and there are a few air photos if my little empire.:lol:

Note to any assholes reading this: One of my tenants is a security company, and they keep HD digital records of everyone who enters the property.

My stepson Jens works for CN, keeping their decripit equipment running. He and I believe that the '72 GM pickup represents the zenith of North American pickup truck development. He knows them and understands them to a molecular level. Needless to say, he knows the condition of every one within 200 miles.

20 years or so ago a particularly cherry one became available, and Jens and his brother Ole, (their mother, Hanne, is Danish) promised to build it up for me if I bought it. It was almost ready for paint and reassembly when it burnt up with Ole's shop, except for the cab and chassis, which Ole managed to roll out before the fire really took hold. He had hit a small welding fire with a fire extinguisher and blew it all over the shop.

Over the years, they have been saving the best parts they have come across for the resurection. A year or so ago, I bought a rotten diesel pickup that had been recently re-engined with a 6.2 and as soon as Jens finished his Acadian, we (well, mostly) he got to work on the pickup.

Most of it is at the body shop for tiddling and paint now, and we should be assembling next weekend.

The only big job left is the box floor. We have two old floors to make into one. We will do as nice a job as we can, but this will be a working truck, and the bed will be coated with some miracle plastic, so whatever we end up with will be good enough. It would be interesting to know, though, how much a new one would be, or even if they are available. I did spring for a new tailgate. 35 year old tailgates in good shape are hard to come by.

Another question is about the box sides. One of ours was a bit started in the middle, but with a porta-power and a jilpoke to the beam above, and judicious tapping, we got it to a slight curve with about a 3/16" to 1/8" light showing on the middle. I wanted to overstres it to make it perfect, but Jens didn't want to risk a catastrophic failure. The body man told us they are all bowed a bit. Is this true?

It's getting past my bedtime, so I'll just see if I can dig up a pic of Jens and his Acadian and post it.

WWPierre
05-27-2007, 11:20 PM
Well, that first post was written a couple of months ago, and, while there has been progress, the above estimate has proven to be optimistic, in the extreme.

We have this annual silliness around here called the Birken Ralley. Guys build the toughest trucks they can and then they get together every year around this time to get drunk and wreck them.

For the two weeks before the event, every mechanic and body man in town is fixing the trucks that got wrecked last year and have been put away filled with mud from last year's event, so that is what my body man has been working on, instead of finishing my truck.

He may have been finished before the silliness started, but for the fact that the driver's door didn't fit, and the rocker panel needed to be replaced.

Here are some pics:

The first one is the yard pickup we are replacing. It is on its last legs.

Pic 2 is the build truck.

Pic 3 is the wheels

Pic 4 is the nice doors for the two fuel tanks under the box.

Pic 5 is our hawthorne in bloom today. :)

GREASEMONKEY72
05-27-2007, 11:22 PM
welcome to the board and thats a nice car

looks like youve got some work ahead of you, got potential though

WWPierre
05-27-2007, 11:30 PM
I suppose it's not very interesting looking at a door that don't fit, but you can see the roof's been painted.

lpaine
05-27-2007, 11:55 PM
It's good to see another B.C. member on here, good luck with your truck and welcome to the madness. Lew

WinDancer
05-28-2007, 03:29 AM
Gonna be a nice truck- that color on the wheels an roof is where you are going?
I like!

Bishops Trucks
05-28-2007, 05:44 AM
Looking good so far. Keep the pics coming.

N2TRUX
05-28-2007, 09:53 AM
Welcome to the forum. Keep us posted on your progress.

WWPierre
05-28-2007, 05:29 PM
Gonna be a nice truck- that color on the wheels an roof is where you are going?
I like!

The main body color will be gun-metal grey metallic. with burgandy roof, wheels and some kind of stripe (maybe).

Here are some more pics I took today.

Jens getting his friend John's yellow monster ready for next weekend's Birken silliness.

Chevrything: Jens' entry from years ago.

Chevrything's front-end geometry, and why it is so called. :)

Some of our old iron: The pickup for the scrap heap as soon as a few more parts get removed, (as in after the Birken Rally). The '47 one ton cab on the Blazer frame will be plowing snow next winter. The pretty good front clip in the background against the hedge, and Mitch, 1962 Michigan front-end loader, the prime mover around here.

Last pic, some of our parts stash.

WWPierre
05-28-2007, 05:42 PM
Since we are installing under the box fuel tanks, Jens modified the behind-the-seat gas tank into a storage bin. Will post a pic of it installed as soon as I see it again.

WWPierre
06-04-2007, 09:32 PM
Parts started arriving back today. I wish the color were a bit darker. Oh well...

Driver's box side
tailgate
fuel door

sodak69c10
06-04-2007, 11:14 PM
nice color, and i wish i had as many spare parts as you:)

WWPierre
06-11-2007, 12:59 AM
Some more progress pics. I spent the day on the back corner of the box floor while Jens worked on the front. I am doing most of the fitting and Jens is welding.

First pic is new/old front panel. You can see the rot we need to get rid of along the front.

Second pic is replacement panel ready for final fitting.

Third pic shows rot at right rear corner. Left side was maybe a bit worse.

Fourth pic shows repair to back cross member and the patch for the raised "stripe" (there must be a word for these things) which narrows in way of the back corner post.

Fifth pic is finished "stripe" ready for fitting the big patch.

I made the stock from a box floor front we had and bent the back edge down on a pan brake, which was pretty well pushed beyond it's capacity.

70stroker
06-11-2007, 02:32 AM
Looking good so far. keep up the great work

RACINJASON22
06-11-2007, 02:58 AM
Love the color well colors and Nice build all around.

Keep up the GR8 work and keep us posted. :metal:

You have some other pretty nice iron in the stable also that I would not mind calling my own.

RJ22...:)

WWPierre
06-22-2007, 01:34 AM
The parts have all arrived back from the body shop.

WWPierre
06-22-2007, 01:50 AM
Still slogging away on the box floor. I will have replaced about 80% before I am finished. Last photo shows last patch. Anybody volunteer to come up here grind the welds for me? :crazy:

I am sure glad I didn't hire someone to do this. It is pretty satisfying, though. Next time??? maybe I'll buy some new parts.

Last pic is the last patch, ready to fit.

manimal
06-22-2007, 09:20 AM
Lookin REALLY good.
-Lance

72BlckButy
06-22-2007, 01:32 PM
Excellent craftsmanship! Keep up the good work, I can't wait to see this thing come together.

WWPierre
06-22-2007, 02:31 PM
Excellent craftsmanship! Keep up the good work, I can't wait to see this thing come together.

Thanks, but really, this is a work truck, so there is a strong "good enough" factor. ;)

WWPierre
06-30-2007, 11:52 PM
Last patch got fitted in the bed today. Jens is welding it now, so we should be able to turn it tonight for the welding on the bottom. Then about 50 feet of weld to grind fair, the greater part across the channels.

Your window of opportunity is closing, if nobody shows up here before tomorrow afternoon, I'll have to do it myself. :hm:

WWPierre
07-07-2007, 11:19 PM
Some more progress. The box bed is ground as fair as it needs to be. Tomorrow we dry fit the box sides so we can fit the fuel tanks.

As you can see, we have removed the Custom 10 emblems from the old truck, which means the clip gets installed on the new one very soon.

I will be giving seminars on grinding this summer. Sign up now.

WWPierre
07-20-2007, 10:42 PM
Some more progress. Looks like we might make the Show and Shine on Aug. 4.

Jens and I haven't been on speaking terms for a few days. He thinks he is Boyd Cottington. He told me to mount the L/R fuel tank switch on the flat part of the dash to the LEFT of the dash cluster, and I misunderstood and mounted it on the right. I admit that down on the left would have been a better place, but I only remember seeing them mounted beside the radio, and I hardly think such a mistake "undermines the integrety of the project" Jeez!

He is pissed at something else too. I had to cut back the bed a bit in way of the fuel filler pipes, eliminating one of the carriage bolts connecting the bed to the box side, which meant we needed little covers projecting into the box about 2". With the ridges in the bed, and and a little step in the inside box side panel, this meant a bit of complicated fabricating in metal, maybe most of a day's work, with the tools available and my metalworking experience. I made up a couple out of wood in about half an hour, and fastened them through the inside box liner with a couple of 10x24 bolts with the nuts reachable through the fuel filler door. He turned up his nose at that. His argument was that the Rhino Liner wouldn't stick to wood. When I pointed out that Rhino seems to stick to paint, and paint sticks to wood, he had to back off a bit. Then he tells me that because we have eliminated one of the mounting holes, the box will have a weak spot. I drilled new holes in the bed and made corresponding square holes in the box side flange, so his engineering argument is now full of crap.

In any case, if he wants to replace them with metal before the box gets the Rhino liner, he is free to do that. I'll point that out to him if we are ever on speaking terms again. :rolleyes:

Man, you can sure tell the kid has his mother's genes!

Anyway, thanks for letting me rant. :m7:

Here are the latest progress pics. I have also included a pic of our pretty solid one ton dumptruck. Don't know the exact vintage. It's not licensed, we just use it here on the claim.

WWPierre
07-31-2007, 03:07 PM
Not much left to do. Looks like we gonna make the show and shine.

I am looking around for a good place to photograph her after we give her her first wash.

67ChevyRedneck
07-31-2007, 03:32 PM
Looks great!

Yukon Jack
07-31-2007, 04:40 PM
Your truck is really coming along. Great to see it almost done. The countryside visible in a few of those pics really looks beatiful btw.

djw32
07-31-2007, 04:44 PM
Looks great!

PM sent

WWPierre
08-17-2007, 11:00 PM
Now that the Phoenix is almost complete, (just a few adjustments, and a bed liner left) I figured it was time for a portrait.

I bought a new Alfa Romeo 1300 GT in 1969, and this old girl is giving me the same warm feelings.

The only thing I am unhappy with is the replacement tailgate. The metal is very thin, and the fit is the ****s. Any recommendations for a proper one?

WWPierre
08-17-2007, 11:03 PM
and a couple more.

WinDancer
08-18-2007, 07:53 PM
Wish you were closer so I could see it in real time and with good light- it is looking like excellent work with repairs and parts on site.
Keep up the terrific work and post more picks.
I love these old trucks the this board!

WWPierre
08-18-2007, 10:53 PM
Hey, Dave, Washington is right next door. Now that I have a vehicle I enjoy driving, I'll be watching this forum for a get-together within a few hours' drive.

As I was idling off the dock after photographing the truck, there was a guy walking towards me. I saw the appreciation break over his face, and as I approached, his expression changed when he realized that this didn't sound like it should, then his expression changed again when he realized it was a diesel, and he stopped, and watched me drive by. It's nice when somebody "gets it".

manimal
08-19-2007, 11:08 AM
What did you have to do to install the 6.2? Any special mods? This truck is NICE!
-Lance

WWPierre
08-19-2007, 08:35 PM
I wasn't involved in the trade over, but Jens tells me that the engine and tranny bolted right in with no mods. We modified the dash cluster by installing the glow-plug indicator light in an empty bezel.

FRENCHBLUE72
08-19-2007, 08:54 PM
Nice job on the rebuild cant wait untill mine done..

WWPierre
10-19-2007, 11:49 PM
This truck will be fetured in the first issue of MaxxTORQUE magazine, a publication devoted to Chevy Diesels, coming out in mid November.

WWPierre
10-19-2007, 11:52 PM
:cool:

WWPierre
11-22-2007, 03:08 AM
The cover of the premier issue of MaxxTorque magazine. Make sure you get your subscription now, so you can read how she went together.

WWPierre
11-22-2007, 01:11 PM
Test for sig pic

Ok, what did I do wrong? Uploaded a small pic of the sign above. How come it didn't show up?

Heh, seems it was too big.

WWPierre
05-17-2008, 07:07 AM
I'm in a line of traffic this morning going about 35-40 mph, and there is a line coming opposite, and all of a sudden there's Bambi, right in front of me running from left to right. I hit the binders, but there was no time. Wham, I caught Bambi broadside with all wheels locked solid.

As soon as she bounced I let off the brakes, and steered to the shoulder to get clear of the traffic behind. Bambi's momentum had carried her onto the wide shoulder, and as I slid to a stop, she struggled to her feet and limped down into the thick bush without giving me her contact information. She probably had no liability insurance, anyway. I got out and went around to look at the damage.

We have another hood, so I'll get it up to Aaron Chadwick tomorrow, and order a new grill and insert from Gasoline Alley tonight.

WWPierre
05-31-2008, 09:35 PM
Since it's gonna cost close to a grand to fix the hood and grill, and I don't have that much to spare these days. (Property Tax time) I figured I'd make a bit of lemonade with this particular lemon, and at least evoke a few smiles around town until I can afford to get the repairs done.

nightmare
05-31-2008, 10:01 PM
Sorry to hear about the accident, but that's hilarious. What a way to lighten the mood.

I like it.

Blue'72
05-31-2008, 11:52 PM
That Bamn Dambi!!! That sucks! :( You'll get her looking good again. (the truck that is) This is the first I've seen of this thread and that truck turned out great!!!

clay68c10
06-01-2008, 12:08 AM
Ha ha! That's good.
Love your color choices.

WWPierre
06-02-2008, 03:51 PM
Ha ha! That's good.
Love your color choices.

Thanks, I wish the grey had been a bit darker.

I did an inventory while doing my errands around town today:

Thumbs up and wave - 2
Laugh and point - 1
Broad smile - 5
smile - 4
glance and slight smile - 5

:lol: