View Full Version : Killers 5.3L install
killer71 06-07-2007, 10:42 PM Well, this is as close to installed as the boy and I could get, so I loaded Killer up and took er up the road to 68 short steps house. Says he can hooook it upppp!!!! So give em a shout when yall are ready for progress pictures:lol:
71chevylowrider 06-07-2007, 10:48 PM Now that is cool! I love it!
70shortnphat 06-07-2007, 11:15 PM Change the intake gasket before the install. I replace them all the time due to vacuum leak cuasing lean codes (P0171 AND P0174). Good luck and thats a clean looking truck.
68 short step 06-07-2007, 11:40 PM the truck is extra nice... the frame ( and truck in general) is much better then expected... but you know how these prokects go, you start off with a engine swap, then it leads to a frame off restoration.... so next week expect to see some progress pics...
68 short step 06-11-2007, 07:14 PM started to tear the engine apart, and this thing is spotless.......also started the rewiring process... heres the pics of how it came and the original wiring harness... and the engine internals
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lukecp 06-11-2007, 07:24 PM Did you pull it all the way from Louisiana to Dallas with the John Deere? :D
killer71 06-11-2007, 07:26 PM I probably would have made the same timing...2 different stops for flats..go figure?
sb69chevy 06-11-2007, 08:32 PM That is SO awesome. Can't wait to see this installed.
72CSTC5 06-11-2007, 10:22 PM I am thinking of doing the same thing. I have access to the same motor and trans for CHEAP!! It only has 16,000 miles.
killer71 06-11-2007, 10:26 PM I am thinking of doing the same thing. I have access to the same motor and trans for CHEAP!! It only has 16,000 miles.
You better grab it!
72CSTC5 06-11-2007, 10:56 PM Are you guys running the 4l60E computer trans in these things too?
killer71 06-11-2007, 11:01 PM Yep!
68 short step 06-11-2007, 11:02 PM Are you guys running the 4l60E computer trans in these things too?
yelp
shifty 06-11-2007, 11:25 PM damn, that is a new freaking engine alright. but why you take off the pan and tray? :D are there plans for a buildup already?!
killer71 06-11-2007, 11:27 PM damn, that is a new freaking engine alright. but why you take off the pan and tray? :D are there plans for a buildup already?!
It's a surprise.:cool: I owe you for directing me to the right people for the motor, and I thank you for the info.!
72CSTC5 06-11-2007, 11:40 PM Killer, how many miles were on yours?
I have to say 68's motor up close is amazing in his truck.
68 short step 06-11-2007, 11:40 PM damn, that is a new freaking engine alright. but why you take off the pan and tray? :D are there plans for a buildup already?!
shifty please read your entire thread, most your questions are already answered....J/K the trailblazer pan needed to be switched to the truck pan to clear eveything...
killer71 06-11-2007, 11:54 PM Killer, how many miles were on yours?
I have to say 68's motor up close is amazing in his truck.
5....he's primping mine up to look like his!
killer71 06-11-2007, 11:58 PM shifty please read your entire thread, most your questions are already answered....J/K the trailblazer pan needed to be switched to the truck pan to clear eveything...
Now that's some funny s#^t!:lol:
oscareltemblo 06-12-2007, 12:38 AM Awesome build gotta love the lsx motors.
Hart_Rod 06-12-2007, 06:47 AM It's a surprise.:cool: I owe you for directing me to the right people for the motor, and I thank you for the info.!
I like suprises, :D.
69Custom 06-12-2007, 08:27 AM Good luck with swap, got to love the all aluminum engine blocks. I got one out of a SSR with less than 1000 miles for $1000 two years ago.
Just as a warning, I am not sure if the block is the same as the SSR, but the dip stick for these engines are in the oil pan. When you swtich to the truck pan, it uses a dipstick in the block. You can locate and drill.
Chevy_Man 06-12-2007, 10:08 AM Hey Killer......i see you got the truck and motor ready fro me to pic up to come to my house........lol i wish.... i want to see this build..I found one in the paper that only has 150 miles on it and all the wiring is with it but minus the tranny for $2000.00 i was hoping it came with the tranny too but he said he was going to keep it...It came out of a 05 3/4 ton chevy van....Wish i had the funds to get it....What all does this swap involve?
This was the add that i had found and i have ben emailing the guy about it...
Vortec 275 horse 4.8l. engine for sale w/ 120 mi.
2005 4.8 l. 275 horse chevy vortec v8 eng. w/ 120 original miles.Will sell with all acc.(air,p.s.,alt.,etc.) inc. computer and harness $2450. eng and harness only $1950!! Individual selling! call or email !
Is this bad?
Eric
killer71 06-12-2007, 10:28 AM Hey Killer......i see you got the truck and motor ready fro me to pic up to come to my house........lol i wish.... i want to see this build..I found one in the paper that only has 150 miles on it and all the wiring is with it but minus the tranny for $2000.00 i was hoping it came with the tranny too but he said he was going to keep it...It came out of a 05 3/4 ton chevy van....Wish i had the funds to get it....What all does this swap involve?
This was the add that i had found and i have ben emailing the guy about it...
Vortec 275 horse 4.8l. engine for sale w/ 120 mi.
2005 4.8 l. 275 horse chevy vortec v8 eng. w/ 120 original miles.Will sell with all acc.(air,p.s.,alt.,etc.) inc. computer and harness $2450. eng and harness only $1950!! Individual selling! call or email !
Is this bad?
Eric
Everyone will have to wait and see what's all involved! I think you guys will enjoy as 68 ss fills you in as he goes throughout the truck. The $2450 is by no means a bad price compared to what the engine cost new but you could get engine, tranny, computer, harness for around 3 grandish almost spankin new. just have to shop around. Hope this helps!
shifty 06-12-2007, 11:03 AM shifty please read your entire thread, most your questions are already answered....J/K the trailblazer pan needed to be switched to the truck pan to clear eveything...
Aha! I didn't realize this came out of a TB SS. maybe i should have read the whole thread!! ;) :haha:
shifty 06-12-2007, 11:06 AM Just as a warning, I am not sure if the block is the same as the SSR, but the dip stick for these engines are in the oil pan. When you swtich to the truck pan, it uses a dipstick in the block. You can locate and drill.
did you actually need to do this? I got an LS1 out of a car, tossed on a oil pan from a truck, and you must replace the oil pickup, dipstick tube, dipstick and windage tray to adapt - the OEM dipstick tube and dipstick come bundled together, same as the oil pan and windage tray - and the truck dipstick tube plopped right into the car dipstick hole without a problem - simply used a different bolt hole to mount the dipstick (alternate hole was factory provisioned and tapped into the head)
Curious if this is not the case with the SSR or TB SS engines
69Custom 06-12-2007, 01:23 PM did you actually need to do this? I got an LS1 out of a car, tossed on a oil pan from a truck, and you must replace the oil pickup, dipstick tube, dipstick and windage tray to adapt - the OEM dipstick tube and dipstick come bundled together, same as the oil pan and windage tray - and the truck dipstick tube plopped right into the car dipstick hole without a problem - simply used a different bolt hole to mount the dipstick (alternate hole was factory provisioned and tapped into the head)
Curious if this is not the case with the SSR or TB SS engines
No hole for the SSR motor for the dipstick to go in the oil pan. Just a blank spot. I had to drill it. The upper bolt hole was there, but no hole in the block. Luckily it is easy to drill aluminum.
shifty 06-12-2007, 02:07 PM Do the SSR and TB SS use the same block configuration and pan?
69Custom 06-12-2007, 03:43 PM I am not sure if they use the same configuration, but I know that they both have the dipstick in the oilpan. Someone from ls1tech was saying that they had to do what I did with there trailblazer engine.
shifty 06-12-2007, 04:18 PM i remembered seeing a post in the past couple weeks over there about drilling the block for the TB SS pan (in fact, i replied in it asking). i completely forgot about that - either way, this is excellent information to consider for anyone doing the swap.
68 short step 06-12-2007, 11:17 PM on the oil dipstick, the block on the TB has the boss machined where the dipstick would go, but isnt drilled all the way through... so get a 3/8 drill bit and drill it through (about 1/8" of material)... easy thing to do.
got the block, water pump, and acc. bracket painted and installed back on the block... starting to look like a enigne again
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killer71 06-13-2007, 04:56 AM ahhh!!! Now that's what I call progress!:cool:
68 short step 06-13-2007, 10:40 PM getting the engine to shine (the WP and crank pullies will need more attiton, i know, and will fix)...then ill move on to the trans.. then the'll be put back together again and then comes the wiring....
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killer71 06-13-2007, 10:49 PM Dude that Rocks! Looks like you painted the intake??? The headers really bring it out!!!
72CSTC5 06-13-2007, 10:54 PM Damn that looks nice. Mine is on the way over!
Killer he has to do your motor so he can pay for my bill!:lol:
kyull67 06-13-2007, 11:00 PM Awesome write up so far. I think this will Definitely be FAQ worthy.
killer71 06-13-2007, 11:02 PM Damn that looks nice. Mine is on the way over!
Killer he has to do your motor so he can pay for my bill!:lol:
Carlos, this guy could throw the towel in on the aircraft and still make a good living with this type of work. I've been talking with don for a few months and I'm still amazed at how informative, particular, and precise he is. Don't get through with his too quickly he still has a few more surprises up his sleeve on my project!:lol:
72CSTC5 06-13-2007, 11:09 PM What do you mean aircraft, what does he do for a living? I never asked him.
68 short step 06-13-2007, 11:14 PM Dude that Rocks! Looks like you painted the intake??? The headers really bring it out!!!
yea everything was disassembled and painted...i dont know why the header on the DR side looks dull, but it's not..
72cstc5..... i only know how to do 1 paint scheem, hope you like black/alumnium:lol:
killer71 06-13-2007, 11:17 PM What do you mean aircraft, what does he do for a living? I never asked him.
Young Man says he keeps military aircraft in the sky (mechanic) and from the looks of his work ya gotta believe him!
68 short step 06-13-2007, 11:18 PM What do you mean aircraft, what does he do for a living? I never asked him.
work on aircrafts..
killer71 06-13-2007, 11:19 PM work on aircrafts..
let's get personal, how old are ya Don?
72CSTC5 06-13-2007, 11:21 PM well glad you called him young because he looked about my age
JHART 06-13-2007, 11:23 PM The question is what type of a/c?
I'm an Avionics Tech on F-18's .... but i have no fab skills! LOL
SCOTI 06-13-2007, 11:25 PM What brand headers? Look like the don't hang low @ all (they look to be higher than the pan @ their lowest point).
68 short step 06-13-2007, 11:29 PM 23
killer71 06-13-2007, 11:31 PM well glad you called him young because he looked about my age
Well I'm 32 and he looks younger en me!:hm:
Hey don tell em all about the headers since your the man!
killer71 06-13-2007, 11:33 PM 23
Dude your just a damm puppy! You got my respect tho!:)
68 short step 06-13-2007, 11:44 PM headers are for a 00 camaro/firebird brand is pacesetters.... i have a write up on what all is needed to be done and how low they hang
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=197347
killer71 06-13-2007, 11:44 PM The question is what type of a/c?
I'm an Avionics Tech on F-18's .... but i have no fab skills! LOL
The a/c is still up for discussion. Probably go with a fly by wire unit. Unsure about the compressor unless 68 ss has came up with a plan!
68 short step 06-13-2007, 11:48 PM The a/c is still up for discussion. Probably go with a fly by wire unit. Unsure about the compressor unless 68 ss has came up with a plan!
:lol: abrivations are fun.... i got it one way, and you got it another...
a/c= aircraft
in this case, i think
JHART 06-13-2007, 11:48 PM LOL ...
Maybe i am just confused by i was asking what type of aircraft he works on.
68 short step 06-13-2007, 11:49 PM The a/c is still up for discussion. Probably go with a fly by wire unit. Unsure about the compressor unless 68 ss has came up with a plan!
still working on that one
killer71 06-13-2007, 11:53 PM LOL ...
Maybe i am just confused by i was asking what type of aircraft he works on.
Sorry bout that thought you wanted to know what type of air condition unit we were going with. Pardon my dumm arse!:dum:
killer71 06-13-2007, 11:57 PM Hey don, are those the original spark plug wires?
JHART 06-14-2007, 12:06 AM What paint did you use on the engine?
Are you going to use the same paint on the tranny?
Just curious cuz i think it looks killer! And wouldnt mind doing the same to my 5.3L.
Chevy_Man 06-14-2007, 09:25 AM Hey Killer how about i take my truck there and he can put that motor and tranny in mine......lol ....just joking had to make a funny with a louisiana member.....i am watching this thread sure looks good so far....Does Don make house calls???? lol
Eric
killer71 06-14-2007, 09:46 AM Hey Killer how about i take my truck there and he can put that motor and tranny in mine......lol ....just joking had to make a funny with a louisiana member.....i am watching this thread sure looks good so far....Does Don make house calls???? lol
Eric
nah, i better keep it. Been planning getting this done for over a year. Just had to find someone to do it!;)
randomhero472 06-14-2007, 12:18 PM anyone know if it would be possible to use the stock compressor setup on this newer motor w/a vintage air system?
killer71 06-14-2007, 12:28 PM anyone know if it would be possible to use the stock compressor setup on this newer motor w/a vintage air system?
yes it's possible and maybe a little easier! Just depends on what set up you wanna run.
randomhero472 06-14-2007, 01:08 PM actually thinking about using the "surefit" from old air, and also.. besides the motor what kind of cost are you looking at to do this?
killer71 06-14-2007, 01:36 PM hmm... be prepared... 9-10000 approp and rising everyday. you can do it much cheaper but i updated everything and I am having this swap done. I didn't have any notion to do it by myself.
68 short step 06-14-2007, 06:33 PM Hey don, are those the original spark plug wires?
i do believe so..
on the trans (color) you'll see what it looks like here soon
killer71 06-14-2007, 06:57 PM thought you might have put another set of wires on it...they looked brand new but I guess that's cause they are!
JHART 06-14-2007, 07:55 PM What paint did ya use on the block?
killer71 06-14-2007, 08:58 PM What paint did ya use on the block?
I believe he uses aircraft paint but I may be wrong!
phase_one 06-14-2007, 09:46 PM That is going to be a real cool set up. Please keep us posted.
JHART 06-14-2007, 09:55 PM I believe he uses aircraft paint but I may be wrong!
That would depend on the aircraft i guess. In my line of aircraft work they are all a flat grey ....
That color he is using looks real nice .... i would like to use the same color on just my block and the tranny. So hopefully he chimes in and lets me know.
GREASEMONKEY72 06-14-2007, 10:53 PM paint looks good, cant wait to see it in the truck
68GMC454 06-14-2007, 11:41 PM looks good..maybe one day i can do something like this to...i like the color of paint
JHART 06-15-2007, 01:12 PM Still no luck on the paint .....
Dont make me beg .... LOL
killer71 06-15-2007, 01:13 PM don't worry he'll chime in later; probably after 4:30
68 short step 06-15-2007, 06:15 PM the paint is aluminum engine paint, high temp..
JHART 06-15-2007, 08:44 PM Where would be the most likely place i can find it?
Will it stick well on a iron block?
My motor inst a LS1 so its not the aluminum block.
68 short step 06-15-2007, 11:38 PM on the paint, auto zone, oreillys,napa all of them have engine paint...yes it'll stick to iron, with anything its the prep to get it to stick good.....
getting the wiring done, this is the most time consumeing part, but im moveing much quicker then on mine... took 1.5 nights of working on it to get where im at now ( on mine it took 2 weeks)... looks like a big mess, but it goes with any of the GEN III swaps....
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