bought item from member in november have not rec'd .....acording to usps shipper has to trace ..but is out of town or wont return my emails or is not interested in helping .. any sugestions ?? any body??

Maybe PM a mod with some more details. They may be able to help. It would be more productive having a mediator as opposed to calling out another member publically. Good luck.

I agree with Silly, PM a mod. I just noticed you joined the board in Jan but you bought from a member in November?

I hope it wasnt me lol, Im still holding on to some stuff thats been paid for, waiting for the members to contact me to pick it up.

Send Josh or Liz an e-mail and let them know the specifics about what is going on.

nope, use the bad review forum and state your case there. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=122

we do not handle bad deals anymore unless the review area is of no help.

when posting there, provide proof, state facts and do not flame. If you do not wish to do that, call the local police in the sellers area and report them.

Good way to start talking about it even though it seems the other side is (or seems to be) neglecting you. They may be behind or have personal trouble.

Be prepared for the worst though (while hoping for the best). Good luck!

Don't let it sour you on the rest. Most have good dealings here.

Houndstooth joined while John (ESL) was in the hospital and was our only link.I`d imagine John pointed the part out to Houndstooth.
Take your shot in the Review Board and see what it scares up.Good luck.

my mistake bought in feb. thks for help i was more intersted if any one knew of another option for me to trace package . in case seller cant or wont i will let it ride a bit more he may be away or something...esil is back in hospital not doing so good again

It wouldnt hurt to at least post there with a few details & their board name. I'd like to avoid giving any of my money to someone that doesnt send parts I paid for...

esil is back in hospital not doing so good again


Oh no :(

It wouldnt hurt to at least post there with a few details & their board name. I'd like to avoid giving any of my money to someone that doesnt send parts I paid for...no no ni'm sure he is busy with some thing... i know he sent it just havent got it and shipper is only one who can trace . so i will wait a little longer

no no ni'm sure he is busy with some thing... i know he sent it just havent got it and shipper is only one who can trace . so i will wait a little longer


If it was shipped via ups, fedex or dhl ask the seller for a tracking number and use the carriers website to view its status. If it was shipped usps you may not have a tracking nuber unless delivery confirmation was addded.

made deal on carb feb 13 paid in full plus shipping still waiting for carb claims lost in shipping and shipper is the only one that can trace .no help from shipper so far

could you please use a few more facts and complete sentences. I am not trying to hate, as I know the jist of your side, its just that this post makes no sense what so ever.

Please keep emotion out and facts in :)

could you please use a few more facts and complete sentences. I am not trying to hate, as I know the jist of your side, its just that this post makes no sense what so ever.

Please keep emotion out and facts in :) simple sentences... bought item from tink in feb. i have not rec'd..... i can not trace shipment i have tried only shipper can trace . shipper does not appear to want to help trace shippment.. it is now may .. feb - may seems a little bit long for shipping if you need more info plse let me know
thks for your interest

I am sure tink will reply, but the message that was forwarded to me shows her offering you a refund due to her being unable to get this information, that the trace was submitted but that Canada (customs) has 60 days to reply.

Is there more to this? As it stands, that is not being screwed by a member but by customs, as the member offered to refund your money.

Customs has taken more than 2 months before, I've purchased things off e-bay that have taken over 6 months to clear... If she has proof of shipment then it is no longer her responsibility. To prevent delays deal within your countries borders otherwise expect the possibility of long delays....

I have called the USPS and requested an "Inquiry about a Registered Article or an Insured Parcel or an Ordinary Parcel,"

From www.usps.com:

The information you provide will be directed to the appropriate Foreign Postal Administration. The results of the inquiry will be shared with you in writing after they have completed their investigation.

The way they do this is to file a report and send it to Canada, then Canada has 60 days to respond. Once the USPS receives a response, they will send it to me in writing. So, as I have said in PMs it could take quite a while. I don't know what else I can do here... I've offered a refund, which could potentially screw me because you still may get the carb.

I've attached my receipts from the USPS...

I`ve had diesel injector cores sent to Saskatoon tied up in customs for months before.This tied up my money (about $300) and nothing either side could do.Also,ours and your post office can only trace up to and from customs.Basically,it goes through three hands independant of each other after it leaves sender`s hands.
As far as Tink screwing anyone on the board.She`s been here two years longer than me and almost 6 years longer than you and I`ve never heard of any bad dealings.I think you can trust her.Are you sure she has actually screwed you?I`m sorry how your deal has gone.
I had a package sent from California take two months to arrive,no customs,only one postal system.I had cut my losses.Then it arrived looking like it just left,except the date was 2 months old.That sender left it all up to me to trace or do anything about it.He seemed to not be concerned what so ever if I got what he recieved money for.Are you saying this is how you are being treated?
Take a look at my thread in this area titled,"Perspective",it may help.

bought and paid for carb from tink.. never rec'd been 4 months sent mess 3 weeks ago no reply .i have no info she is tracking shipment . last answer was you might get carb and if i returned money then i have nothing ,...well i sent money and never rec'd carb , if i sent money i would think i'm more trustworthy then some one that has'nt delivered carb. please dont tell me it takes 6 months to deliver to canada i have ordered and rec'd at least 50 shipments in 3 weeks or less.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=290393

I have called the USPS and requested an "Inquiry about a Registered Article or an Insured Parcel or an Ordinary Parcel,"

From www.usps.com:



The way they do this is to file a report and send it to Canada, then Canada has 60 days to respond. Once the USPS receives a response, they will send it to me in writing. So, as I have said in PMs it could take quite a while. I don't know what else I can do here... I've offered a refund, which could potentially screw me because you still may get the carb.

I've attached my receipts from the USPS...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=358891&stc=1&d=1210226062



tink has not been on the site since 5/28 hope all is well with her

thks for your interest liz ...if she has offered me a refund i would'nt be looking for her now and no she would'nt be screwed if i ever rec'd carb because if she is really tracking it she would know if i rec'd it . i sent her money in good faith trusting her yet she wouldn't trust me to send money back to her if i ever got carb ???
thks
houndstooth

she offered you a refund in the post as well as PM, as it was fwd to me back then. I am not trying to argue with you. She has not been on the site since the end of may, so there is not much more I can do.
She posted the receipts, explained what was up and others posted saying they had similar situations where customs took months.
I am very sorry your parts are not there, but I dont see how anyone else can do anything other then wait on customs.. The receipts are right here in the post.

hate to say it, but dont buy something as petty as a carb from another country....

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Also, NEVER buy anything and send money without getting personal contact information from the seller.... Period.

LockDoc

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Also, NEVER buy anything and send money without getting personal contact information from the seller.... Period.

LockDoc

x1000
:agree::gi:

wow nice to belong to a site with such nice and honest people. as for contac info i normally do unless i'm on a site i belong to never had any problems on other sites i belong to including the dreaded h.a.m.b. we all kinda help each other out
thks for your help

whats h.a.m.b.?

From what I`ve seen Tink has done all she can about this and has proven,as far as I can see,that it was sent and it is now the responsibility of either the Us Postal Service,Us/Canadian Customs,or Canadian post office.In your thread in the proper message board,Bad Deals,I posted how I had a deal with a Canadian diesel parts supplier that got hung up forever in customs.
Wayne,I know it sucks that you paid for something and didn`t get anything,at least yet.But,bad mouthing someone who has shown that they have made every attempt to be cooperative and ignoring the fact that there are a few other parties that could possibly be responsible isn`t going to make the carb appear.Sorry,just how I see it,bud.I really don`t think that Tink has ripped you off.I don`t know her any better than you.And I really don`t like saying this to a friend of someone who mattered to me.Enough to make me want to visit the island even after he has passed and hopefully meet what friends he had that I`m aware of...such as you.Please don`t let this bring bad blood.I`m cool,I just think you need to take another look at what`s going on here.Please see that is all there is to my post.Thanks,Tim

whats h.a.m.b.?

It's what us people from new Yawk have with our eggs in the morning

whats h.a.m.b.?

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check it out some time....

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Link: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/

New Mystery ....."WHERE IS THE CARBERETOR" ???:lol:

Not serious, but I do feel your aggravation too! Been Shang hied my self once or more times. But never from this site. This surely will get straightened out for you.

Hokey Ass Message Board

check it out some time....

Two things to add here:

1.) One of the coolest sites on the 'Net

2.) Be very very careful what you ask or what you say once you're there. :sexy:

New Mystery ....."WHERE IS THE CARBERETOR" ???:lol:

Not serious, but I do feel your aggravation too! Been Shang hied my self once or more times. But never from this site. This surely will get straightened out for you.

No one has been Shang Hi`d on this site.Check the facts.It`s in the hands of one or the other post office`s or customs.

If I sold something and it hadn't arrived in 4 months I would refund the money, regardless of the circumstances. Whether it is legal not to wouldn't matter, for me it is a matter of principle. When I ship something I feel an obligation to follow up on it until it arrives. I can honestly say I have only had one item never arrive and I returned the money to the buyer. My reputation isn't worth the money, some people's reputations are for sale for a lot less...

Good luck, Rg

bought carb from tink in feb. did not rec. tink told me she was checking into it and it could take 6 months . get real . she sends me a shipping # from a trace she was doing but it was just a # with no referance to me or our transaction , it could be to any one, well still nothing and there is no way buyer can trace ....tink seems to have disapeared.buyer beware from tink

Is this a repost? This looks real familiar

Is this a repost? This looks real familiar
no last time i posted every one kinda dumped on me saying it takes 6 months to ship to canada . well give me a break i've been dealing in the usa for years it takes 14 days usually and i've had stuff in 7 days and over nite . just a heads up if any is dealing with tink. she has done nothing to help solve this other than a shipping number that could be for any thing or any one
thks
houndstooth

This is a repost...The other one is in the bad deals section....

This should had been in Bad Deals where your other thread is. All four threads on this subject are now merged. Please update one thread and do not cross post them.

I am really not sure what else to say here besides the same thing again.

Tink has not been on the site since May. She was an active member with NO issues previous to that. She offered a refund to this part AND set up the trace which had been explained before. Canada had 60 days to review it and then send it to the usps and then they got to review it and then let her know what was going on.

I can understand your frustration, but as a buyer you should had gotten contact information as well. There is nothing we can do to help you at this point... You have posted this 4 times now and that is just annoying no less against the rules as well. Please post in this thread to update from now on as Augie stated.

I wish you the best in getting your item, and again hope all is well with tink too..

This sucks,for sure.I am sympathizing with you,Wayne.But,in my mind,I`d jump to cuss bureaucratic muttling and lack of accountability between customs and two postal systems before I`d personally attack a person with no known history of wrong doing.If you are wrongly accusing Tink then did you consider you may have run her off the site?Did you consider how you would feel if innocent and in her shoes?How would you handle it?I`ve given real life examples in this thread about international befundledness as well as a simple California to Maryland postal hangup.I`ve had a zillion smooth transactions,but that didn`t make the couple bad ones I`ve had not occur.I ordered a set of 14.50/37-16.5 mounted & balanced tires from San Diego and got them months faster than a car model kit.I hope this still turns out well.But,my gut tells me you`re a victom of some system failure.Shippers are known for throwing away damaged parcels to rid themselves of blame for damage.Not every employee in the chain of shipping will have enough integrity to own up to mishandling a package.It`s just another cardboard box to them.

First I wouldn't send something out of the country for just this reason. Plus sometimes the buyer refuses to pay the taxes and it comes back, costing the seller/shipper even more money.

I think if the seller can't prove the item was delivered the transaction was not complete. A full or partial refund should be given.

Unless the buyer would only accept one method of shipping its the sellers responsibility to deliver (not just ship) the item. I prefer to ship UPS with a tracking number. It may cost a little more, and UPS does funk sheet up, but way more times than not they do it right and can prove delivery with tracking number.

Where is Tink?

This sucks,for sure.I am sympathizing with you,Wayne.But,in my mind,I`d jump to cuss bureaucratic muttling and lack of accountability between customs and two postal systems before I`d personally attack a person with no known history of wrong doing.If you are wrongly accusing Tink then did you consider you may have run her off the site?Did you consider how you would feel if innocent and in her shoes?How would you handle it?I`ve given real life examples in this thread about international befundledness as well as a simple California to Maryland postal hangup.I`ve had a zillion smooth transactions,but that didn`t make the couple bad ones I`ve had not occur.I ordered a set of 14.50/37-16.5 mounted & balanced tires from San Diego and got them months faster than a car model kit.I hope this still turns out well.But,my gut tells me you`re a victom of some system failure.Shippers are known for throwing away damaged parcels to rid themselves of blame for damage.Not every employee in the chain of shipping will have enough integrity to own up to mishandling a package.It`s just another cardboard box to them.
you have got to be kidding me i run her off the site ??? i'm the one that didnt rec. my goods she is the one that dissapeared and has not tried to help in this matter if she is innocent why have i not heard from her there is no system failure if she follows up they have to respond to her requests . i can not trace from my end only the the shipper can . pull your head out special k..and by the way if you decide to visit out this way drop by i'll be glad to show you around , we may not have the same morals when i do a deal i see it through, any way i'm sure we can find some common ground as we share same interests.
cheers
houndstooth

well if tink offered a refund, and im kinda getting into this well past the start of the thread, ya shoulda taken the refund and if the parts get there then id hope you give her the money back... It is kinda in her court to get the parts to you and it is the responsibility of the seller to handle the shipping and dealing with the shipper if they screw up. She has to fight it out with the shipper. Until houndstooth actually signs for the item the item is still owned by tink
This is why you always ship signature requested so that there is proof the intended recipient gets their item, for everyones protection
That being said and having spoken to tink in threads here i find it hard to believe she would do anything intentional to screw any member here. I would hope that she is not run off the site as special-k suggested and would hope this matter can be amicably resolved as both tink and houndstooth are valued members of our community

Here's a couple of things I would like to add and I am not saying Tink is a thief, because I have never dealt with her and even communicated with her on this or any other board.

Even though there is a filled-out customs form and a Postal receipt, it doesn't mean the item was shipped. You can pay for shipping charges and not actually ship the item. The clerk will give you back the package if you ask for it. (maybe you thought of something else that should go inside) UNLESS you pay for a Certificate of Shipping/Mailing. This is a little slip of paper which has the senders' and receivers' names and addresses on it. I think it cost $1.15. It gets stamped by the Postal Clerk with the postmark date/time info and is given to the shipper. The Postal Clerk will not give you the package back if you buy this Certificate. It also shows up separately on the receipt; which it doesn't on the receipt in question.

ALSO, you can do a Delivery Confirmation search on the USPS site, using the customs number; which is CP352495574US. It won't tell if the package has been delivered, but it will at least tell if the package was accepted at the Post Office. I did a search and nothing shows up for that customs number.

AND one more IMPORTANT thing. This package was shipped Priority Post, so it is automatically insured for $94.06 or $54.06 ( I can't tell for sure what the receipt says) for loss or damage. I don't what the time limitation is on this though. So if you never receive your item, you should be able to at least get the insurance money. Tink will have to file the claim though.

Once again, I am not calling Tink a thief, because I don't know her and have not had any dealings with her.

Wayne,nothing personal meant nor taken over this.Just trying to help resolve by looking at both sides.I am all about morality and am careful with jumping to conclusions.She did offer a refund,check with the shipper,and was trying to work with this until alot of posts of accusations.I don`t know her well,but knew it was bothering her to be accussed after showing her earnist.It was in wait for word from P.O. staus,yet she was still being called out.I showed examples of problems I have had.I`m curious what has evolved here.Enough time has passed,but neither of you are here.I don`t know if,for her,it`s hiding out after a scam or a case of "this site ani`t worth it" and she`s just fed up and left.
I wish you two could have communicated this thing through.No one but you two know just how it went.

thks for your interest ....yes a refund finally came about a week ago. i asked what became of the part and no reply so i guess thats the end of the drama. thks again for your interest
houndstooth

wow good of you to update the post and clear her name in a timely manner :rolleyes:

Tink contacted me back on 8/23 with confirmation that she had contacted you for info on where to send a refund with no reply. I'm glad this finally got resolved, but am surprised that after making a huge deal and countless posts over her "screwing" you over, you never bothered to reply saying you got a refund until asked in the post

wow good of her to send my refund in a timely matter. and i replied to her on 8/24 for your info . i am not on this site much. huge deal i dont think so all i wanted was my part or my cash back if you find this as for the wait i wasnt going to CLEAR her name untill her check cleared which i still dont know .. like i said drama is over

exactly.. your drama is OVER
thanks for your reply again.

I will not rehash this over n over but anyone can see the refund was offered way back when. Use this as a lesson and move on... this subject is like beating a dead horse with a dummy stick

exactly.. your drama is OVER
thanks for your reply again.

I will not rehash this over n over but anyone can see the refund was offered way back when. Use this as a lesson and move on... this subject is like beating a dead horse with a dummy stickyou are the one that brought this up not me .. i wonder who should move on
cheers

you are the one that brought this up not me .. i wonder who should move on
cheers

I replied an hour and half after you did, so unless we are going backwards in time, you did and I replied. That is how a message board works, folks post and others reply. But I do thank you for trolling at this point, so I can give you a warning.

III. No pissing matches. Its fine to disagree, but once a thread has run its course, and degenerated into little more than an insult fest, it will be locked. While this will require a judgment call by the Administrators & Moderators

IV. Pure trolling, either to upset someone or simply for your personal
enjoyment, is strictly prohibited. If you're here to cause trouble, it will be a very short stay. Immediate BAN and you will be reported to your ISP.

So please do review the site rules before posting again. And consider this your one and final warning on the matter.

Perhaps it is indeed you whom should move on, before this becomes an actual problem.

Thanks!

There should be no issue on the check ‘clearing’… I sent a cashier's check which is guaranteed by a bank and typically treated as cash since most banks clear them instantly.

From Wikipedia:
Cashier's checks are recognized as "guaranteed funds" and amounts under $5000 are not subject to deposit holds.

If you received your refund, does it really matter what became of the part? Why would I take someone's $ just for kicks, only to return it later? Filing a claim with USPS seems to go nowhere, and the result was that package was lost (meaning the postal service says it was not delivered at all). Without insurance the US post office didn't care whether the package was found or not. There is no method to recover lost shipments, unless insured. The online tracking for International bascially consists of an origin and destination scan – like with domestic Mail. There is no tracking that locates the package between my door and yours. USPS only guarantees delivery on EXPENSIVE shipping options.

To answer special-K... as far as what has 'become of me'... I have very little time to spend on the internet these days, so the time I have is devoted to keeping in touch with family via e-mail and moderating 2 forums that I am a part of. I come here to read through things and find info when I get time... there is a lot of great stuff here and a lot of knowledgeable people. When we get the 69 in the garage in a month or so, I hope to spend a little more time here.

Yes, I am slightly fed up with being repeatedly called out when I stated I was waiting to hear from the USPS... I am somewhat aggravated with the fact that other people think that I would actually consider screwing someone over on deal - that I would take something to the Post Office, get a receipt and ask for the item back and never send it - that appalls me! I have 100% good feedback on eBay and I have a good reputation on other forums.

Lesson I learned: I'll never sell anything to anyone outside of the US again.

And to those worried that I might screw them over… I never came here to sell anything. I happened to make a post looking for information on something. Several people offered to buy it and when I decided to sell it, I contacted the first person who contacted me. The package was lost, and I made repeated calls to USPS… all the information on how they handle inquiries and ‘claims’ is on thier website here: http://www.usps.com/insuranceclaims/intlclaims.htm.

So, the long and short is, I apologized to houndstooth in PM and I do so again now in ‘public’ for the delay in refund – what more can I do? The package was lost, the refund was made.