I hate these "***** sessions", but...he got his money refunded and just kept my new parts, instead of returning them, as promised. I am out over $200!
I sold him new PUI seat covers, at a low price, and he didn't like them--after a shop tried to install them. I contacted PUI and of course they wanted to see them before doing anything.
So I did him a favor and returned his money immediately without getting the covers first. He said he needed it real bad. He promised to send the covers to PUI. It's been two months. Lots of PMs and every time he has a new "deal" for me.
1. Now he wants to keep the covers and fix them, instead of returning.
2. Then he wanted them at my cost.
3. Then he wanted them at $100 below my cost.
OK...I agreed to each of his "deals", because I hate to drag this on forever.
4. Well, it's been a couple more weeks and he just doesn't pay.
I hope no one else get's caught up in one of his "deals".
NOTE: I have pics of the work his shop did---really bad. They charged him $150 (we pay $300-400 for good bucket cover installs)

Yeah, that definiely sucks. Some people are just plain worthless. I would say he should give you what he paid for them. Will make sure to remember him.:devil:

Sorry to Hear about That, Not Every one on Here is who they Pretend to Be...........

Sorry as well, but most around are good folks...

Issue is we have had several complaints about this user. No one other then Frank would post it. Frank has gone above and beyond in this situation and still got screwed over.
I hate that it happened, but look forward to bryans explanation of why he feels he should keep the item and the money publicly. Usually I would just off a user for whats gone on here.. I was hoping Bryan would step up and do right in this case..

I never posted anything about him since no money ever traded hands. However, he has shown very poor salemanship on this board. Enough to insure that I will NEVER do business with him, even if it's free parts and was my neighbor...

1. My issue with bryanschevyparts was when he was selling a set of buddy buckets. They were in ok shape and his final asking price was $300-325. Hart_Rod was looking for seats only and I was looking for a frame. So within the thread we all agreed to split the cost of the seats, pay for shipping with our own FEDEX account and bryan could keep the center seat and resell, thus making more money than he would have selling them whole. Then all of the sudden the entire thread was gone, erased. Once we finally contacted him he stated that "it was becoming to much of a hassle to ship and he's tired of dealing with the issue". This is after he told us he would ship, thankfully we never sent him money...

2. He then makes a post on the parts board telling us that he posted his seats on Ebay, no link or shortcut. Then continues to brag how he got $800 for them...

I suggest to avoid at all costs, he's one of the few board members that I will never do business with.

I would post the link but it was erased as well....

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=316885

i see bryanschevyparts in the parts forum alot..

i hate hearing about bad deals because this site is the only place on the internet that i feel safe giving somebody money and believing that they will send it..

and i believe the same goes for most other people on this board.

hopefully this gets worked out

my bad... he's still selling them...

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=305853

I won't pile on, since MSGROSS explained what happened to him and I. I've had a lot of great transactions on this board and 99.99% of the people on here have outstanding character (UnderHaulin, ILIKE72s' just to mention a few). I won't let one person's lack of character and now credibility, ruin my experience with this board. Bryan, best of luck to you, just remember, you can only burn so many bridges.

R/

I Had a Similar experience with a Thread being erased, I wish we had some System to Keep that from Happening...............

I Had a Similar experience with a Thread being erased, I wish we had some System to Keep that from Happening...............

As do I. The issue is if we eliminate the possibility of deleting threads, then edits etc are not able to be done by members. One thing to keep in mind is, even though a user deletes a thread or even edits one.. it is not gone. Admins have the ability to view all deletes.

I don't know all the details with each of these deals, but................. I drove up there to Mn and baught a cab from Bryan. It was just as nice as he said it was. He told me about the shanannigans a couple of the members tried pulling on the buddy buckets buy thing. It sounds like to me that they were trying to steal them from him and trying to get away with it. Now don't go flaming me here, I'm not naming names or anything. Not like I can, I only heard one side of the story and it isn't my buisness. But I can say that I have seen the same board member he mentioned banderently low balling guys in the parts section all the time. Again, I don't know all the detailsin these situations, but I think there is more to the story than what is brought out here, maybe not by the first poster, I can't remember what reasoning Bryan had for that deal. I met him, he is a nice honest guy. He told me everything about the cab before I left town and I even baught a door from him as well. But like I said, I don't know all details. I just don't want to see a good board member vanished over BS. Just my 2 cents. I hope you guys can get whatever handled on the upholstery, and maybe the other dudes can forget about the buddy seat split deal.

I don't know all the details with each of these deals, but................. I drove up there to Mn and baught a cab from Bryan. It was just as nice as he said it was. He told me about the shanannigans a couple of the members tried pulling on the buddy buckets buy thing. It sounds like to me that they were trying to steal them from him and trying to get away with it. Now don't go flaming me here, I'm not naming names or anything. Not like I can, I only heard one side of the story and it isn't my buisness. But I can say that I have seen the same board member he mentioned banderently low balling guys in the parts section all the time. Again, I don't know all the detailsin these situations, but I think there is more to the story than what is brought out here, maybe not by the first poster, I can't remember what reasoning Bryan had for that deal. I met him, he is a nice honest guy. He told me everything about the cab before I left town and I even baught a door from him as well. But like I said, I don't know all details. I just don't want to see a good board member vanished over BS. Just my 2 cents. I hope you guys can get whatever handled on the upholstery, and maybe the other dudes can forget about the buddy seat split deal.

There are two sides of the story. Maybe you should get both before calling BS. PM sent.

There are two sides of the story. Maybe you should get both before calling BS. PM sent.

I realize there are 2 sides of the story hence my post said there are 2 sides of the story. I don't need to get both sides of the story because I really don't want to be in the missle of it. But I got your PM and I repiled as well. No hard feelings, and I said shannigans and in the end of my post and called BS at the end. I didn't call you out, just gave my experience with this board member because this thread will turn into a dog pile soon. These type of threads usually do. I just gave my 2 cents to maybe salvage any chance this user may have of trying to ammend something with the original poster. But IDK. Hope it gets worked out.

NOTE: I have pics of the work his shop did---really bad. They charged him $150 (we pay $300-400 for good bucket cover installs)[/QUOTE]

i would love to see the install pics, for my shops "wall of install shame"
thanks, chris

I realize there are 2 sides of the story hence my post said there are 2 sides of the story. I don't need to get both sides of the story because I really don't want to be in the missle of it. But I got your PM and I repiled as well. No hard feelings, and I said shannigans and in the end of my post and called BS at the end. I didn't call you out, just gave my experience with this board member because this thread will turn into a dog pile soon. These type of threads usually do. I just gave my 2 cents to maybe salvage any chance this user may have of trying to ammend something with the original poster. But IDK. Hope it gets worked out.

No worries Ryan, we're good. I too, hope this gets resolved and I apologize for stealing PICKMUP's thread.

R/

Same here, sorry for hijacking.

Just to add a little credibility. I personally have never bought or sold anything to or from Bryan. I did have a chance to meet him in person as irode along the trip with dieselwrencher. He had a great first impression and was very enthusiastic and honest guy. His hospitality when we arrived was sensational. We all get caught up in bad deals at some point, and we just have to shrug them off and call it water under the bridge.

As do I. The issue is if we eliminate the possibility of deleting threads, then edits etc are not able to be done by members. One thing to keep in mind is, even though a user deletes a thread or even edits one.. it is not gone. Admins have the ability to view all deletes.


The admins have the ability to view and restore if they wanted. :smoke:

hopefully this is a misunderstanding and will be worked out between the two.

as far as price negotiations/what ever you want to call it, i believe negotiation is part of game. if a part is FS for 40.00 shipped and you offer 30.00 shipped the seller can accept or deny, i would not consider the prospective buyer to be considered cheap, or trying to lowball someone. if a seller posts an ad, he/she should expect all kinds of offers/trades etc. if the seller cannot handle this kind of activity, then they need to list in the ad as such (will not ship, no trades. prices are firm, not seperating etc.)

Sorry for the threadjack Frank.

ability to view and restore if you wanted. :smoke:

after 6 years I am aware of how it works ;) but thanks.. we do not restore threads unless there is a legal reason to do so.

I am glad to see folks stepping up for bryan as well. After getting complaint after complaint, for many weeks, its nice to see some good. If thats the case, then perhaps he will step up and fix the issues at hand. I

it was more of an FYI for the users Liz, not directed to you....

With the quote i was unsure :) no reason for sorry though.

hey pickmup i would love to see the pictures of the botched install for my shops "wall of install shame"
thanks, chris

It is my understanding that negotiations are not part of the site. If my faded memory is correct...A FS price is fixed and we are not to try and renegotiate the price or make negative comments about the price. The above Buddy Bucket deal to me would be the exception to the rule as they were trying to split up the seats verses negotiating the price down. Just a thought? Not trying to hi-jack the thread but wanting to make a point about selling. I wish all could be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. Tis the season you know?

I have dealt with bryan before....I bought a new glove box emblem from him.....I paid for it and it did take a long time to get it, but it was a very nice item.....PICKMUP, I hope you get your money for your items back....It's a shame that a person would take advantage of your kindness by returning his money before getting your covers first....That sir is a stand up way of doing business.....I just hope it doesn't bite you.....

I'm new to the board but not playing with trucks! The first time I delt with Bryan I bought over 800 dollars of parts all for a fair price. I have met him in person and he did not give me any kind of vibe that he was trying to hustle me? I got the feeling he is hooked on these trucks like most of us. I still am buying parts from him now as I work on my latest project. Hope your seat deai gets resolved to your sasitifaction before this thread gets personal. I thought I should let others know that I had a positive experience.

I have been reading all of the posts that have been posted to this thread and I can't but feel really disapointed . I started rebuilding my truck's a couple of years ago, and was pleased when I found this forum for myself and others to talk, buy, sell, ect. I have had very few unpleasant experiences on this board. Most everyone that I have had conversations or transactions with, have been great and I feel they would say the same about me. As for this post, people name-calling (half of them don't know me and I have never dealt with before), and people saying I have built a bad reputation, I can only say that they are wrong. I bought the seat covers with the expectation that they were quality. I thought this because I was told that they were. When I recievied them, paid to have them installed and they looked horrible, I was not mad, I did not call him names or bad mouth him. When I talked to Frank and sent multiple pics to let him know the situation, he agreed. He agreed that they were crap, he agreed that it was the covers that were poor quality and not the install. Anyone with a brain knows the paying a good price doesn't nessesarlly mean poor workmanship. If this were the case, paying decent money for the seat covers would mean I would have recievied something decent. Frank agreed to a refund, but there was still the fact that I paid money to have crap installed on my seats and would have to pay more money to have them taken off. I have probably drug my feet a little making a decision on what I do at this point, because now I have money put into something. Frank claims that we had a number of little deals set up, and thats not true. Frank was throwing ideas at me to close the deal. A deal I didn't create, he did. I never said yes to any of these little deals. I am so sick and tired of the situation. When this all started and I realized what I paid for, I was dissapointed but I just figured thats the way it goes sometimes. When I read this post I was pissed for the first time in the whole situation. He can recreate everything in his own words, but the bottom line is.... they are his words. He can twist them to make them say anything he wants. As for everyone jumping in and throwing logs on the fire, it is easy to pick a side when you only have one side to choose from. None of you heard the other side of the story and had no problem talking s$@*. I want this done with and can't believe how far it's been taken. I have no problem paying Frank the amount that we agreed on. i will pay him tomorrow. I would really appreciate if frank would post the pics of the covers so that everyone that seems to know me and think I am shady can really see what we all have been talking about. I am really interested to see if everyone that puts time, money, and hard work into their truck projects would be happy with what I am stuck with. I will be on here first thing tomorrow ( Sat, Dec 6) and hope that we can settle this finally and move on.
MSGROSS/hartrod...............the buddy buckets were never for sale separate and I never agreed to the deal that was proposed ( to part them out). I had them listed how I wanted to sell them and when nobody was interested in them as one piece I pulled the listing because I was being bombarded with questions and people wanting more pics. I couldn't keep up and didn't have the time. Are we done yet ???

I don't know the details of the "buddy seat deal," but I do know that Bryan provided honest, great service to me. I have been buying stuff online for quite some time via ebay. My ebay ID is rmsmithsantacruz. I have dealt with over 1000 people online. (See my feedback) http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=rmsmithsantacruz&ftab=AllFeedback&_trksid=p3911.c0.m198

My point in this is that compared to all of my dealings on ebay, Bryan has come across as one of the most honorable of the people with whom I have dealt online. He could have easily taken my money and never sent my item; but he didn't. Furthermore, based on my many correspondenses with him in regards to our transaction, I had no reservations about sending him my money, or fears of not getting my product. I have dealt with many people and I can smell a rat a mile a way. Bryan, my brothers, is not one of those people whom cannot be trusted. I wouldn't hesitate to deal with him again.

But like I said, I do not know what has gone on with the deal on which this thread is based, but I can honestly envison Bryan as being a stand-up kind of person. With honest, open communication, I know it can be resolved. I hope this all gets worked out.

MSGROSS/hartrod...............the buddy buckets were never for sale separate and I never agreed to the deal that was proposed ( to part them out). I had them listed how I wanted to sell them and when nobody was interested in them as one piece I pulled the listing because I was being bombarded with questions and people wanting more pics. I couldn't keep up and didn't have the time. Are we done yet ???

If that was the case then a simple "sorry, but they aren't being seperated" statement would have been nice. What did we get? We got no response for a day or two and a deleted thread, this was after you pm'd us and asked us to make you an offer. You can't deny any of that.

Then we find another posting selling them again...

Then another posting in the parts board stating that you put them on ebay, with no link... and then bragging that you sold them for $800... this after a few people showed interest in paying your asking price... what happened to that thread? DELETED... again..

As I stated, all I was dissapointed in was the way it was all handled. If someone won't ship then state, "NO SHIPPING", if they won't negotiate then state "PRICE FIRM" and if they won't part something then "WILL NOT PART" will suffice. I can't see how anyone would be upset with any of those responses...

I hold no hard feelings against you, and wish you the best with your sales.

As for everyone jumping in and throwing logs on the fire, it is easy to pick a side when you only have one side to choose from. None of you heard the other side of the story and had no problem talking s$@*. I want this done with and can't believe how far it's been taken. I have no problem paying Frank the amount that we agreed on. i will pay him tomorrow. I couldn't keep up and didn't have the time. Are we done yet ???

I knew the whole, story.. both sides.. as did Josh. In the end you have the seats, and the money. Thats screwing someone over no matter how you look at it. It does not matter though, as you know the truth inside :)

This has gone as far as you have allowed it to. This mediation that we are stuck in with you all has been going on for weeks. Had you sent him the money or the covers, you would not be in this situation at all. If you have no problem paying him, then why in the heck have we been stuck in the middle of this for over a month? Please, do whats right... As far as not keeping up and not having time, then why are you still selling? I hope you do send out the parts you have going now in a timely manner.

we likely would be done with this if a few things did not happen.
1. we did not get multiple complaints on your selling that had to be dealth with.
2. threads were not deleted and restarted (it is a scamming practice) though it is your prerogative to do so if you wish
3. this whole seat deal was done months ago, instead of wasting my and Josh's time and energy with it.. when you say now you have no issue paying.
4. If I would stop getting forwarded PMs from folks where you have been PMn them ASKING them to post here about your dealings. You sent out all those messages, you continued this on.

After seeing that, knowing the other "shady" deals, and knowing how long this had been going on with Frank. I really would recommend you look up QBQ and read it.

pm sent to frank =pics of the seats .

Just for the record, I have paid for the seats. I paid for them in the very beginning. Frank refunded my money when they were bad. I don't like the insinuation that I have some grand plan to get things for free and don't pay for things. I have said that I am willing to pay for the covers and be done with it. I don't know why you would encourage people to take things out of context by posting bits and pieces of a thread, except to create drama. I am sure Frank has read this and I want him to know I want to conclude this. pics=money

I figured I would go head and post them for Frank.

Frank.you have paypal thanks Bryan

ugggg, those are crappy fitting/ installed.....i know nothing of this story, untill now.....and i see both sides.... bryan is out money cause he paid to have them installed, and is gonna have to pay more to have them un-installed......and frank is out money cause he refunded you, and you kept the $$ and the covers... my thoughts are this, frank did what was right and PROMPTLY refunded you the $$ with the expectation of getting the crappy covers back, and/or the manufacture would get them back...i understand the situation, and your beef should be between the manufacture, not frank....id see if i could recoupe your $$ lost for all the installs/un-installs becaue of their covers.....and if they refuse, frank should drop their products...... just my thoughts....

i have sent Frank his money back.

Frank.you have paypal thanks Bryan

you did good, now both of ya'll need to contact the manufacure, and get compensated for ya'll time/$$.....im not flameing either of ya'll, you guys both did good..

Thanks Liz & Josh for all your time on this issue.
Here is a link to some nice CST buckets with the same PUI covers for comparison. Good shops do good work! http://ads.auctionads.com/pagead/link_676536c68e45ce1f45bc_0a627b1d8bb33c1cb1cea3f6488620a9_http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120342813007&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=
...and here are a few more pics of the install on Bryan's seats.
I accepted Bryan's "Deal" of $156 payment (My cost was $229).
If anyone ever doesn't like a part they get from me, I will always refund their money. If you get a part that you think isn't built right, contact the manufacturer and see if they can make it right/better.
I contacted PUI immediately and provided the pics. They questioned the install because of all those being sold and used. I even offered to provide them with a full set of seats and new repro foams to use to re-evaluate their covers. I did not want to post this thread...Bryan did!

if you guys look close at the pics in franks link ,that is what i should have received .notice the EXTRA pieces that cover the hinge area !! then compare the pics of the seat covers i have...you be the judge??

WELL.............. Since someone started the same thread I wanted too but never did, I will add to it so people can see what he did/didn't do for me.
Bryan had some trailing arms for sale that I replied to on 9-11 and we came to an agreement with shipping and some other parts that I needed. I paid him with paypal on 9-12 in the amount that we agree upon.
I waited and waited and waited and never seen anything come to me. I PM'd him several times and got several stories like 'the parts are still on the truck' or ' I forgot about them' or 'I am really busy right now, I will get them shipped this week'. I sent him 8PM's total asking for tracking numbers, where is my stuff, etc and finally I had it and told him that I was losing my patience with the matter and it was bordering on being stupid at this point. I got a PM back from him (finally) telling me that I was flipping out and that he was going to stop selling on the board because 'IM just really tired of trying to help people out ,with NO appreciation.'
SOOOO, after 2 more PM's asking what he was going to do I finally did get a refund 11-5 with no warning, etc just got an email from paypal saying I had a refund. I emailed him stating my position and why I was unhappy with the whole deal, and I got some not so nice responses from him. Our PM's ended with him stating 'will you go away' and I have been fuming about it sever since. I maintained my civility about the whole matter right up to the end and then I lost it, I sent him a two word sentance that summed up how I felt about him.....
Basically what killed the deal on his end is that he undershot the shipping price on the items and never bothered to email me and ask if I would pay more in shipping. Hell, I live about 6.5 hours away, I would of darn near drove there if I had to, I have friends in the area that I could of visited on the way!!! He told me that he had better thing to do than drive around with junk parts in the bed of his truck and get the lowest shipping quote for people.
The whole situation still pisses me off even though I got refunded, I just can't understand why I was treated me that way. If he didn't want to sell me the stuff, than don't post it on the board, pretty darn simple I think!!!!!!
He was my first purchase off the board of 3 so far, and I got shafted on the first two, I hope I have other good deals to come in the future.
Buyer beware I do have to say when dealing with this clown, like the song 'Walk, don't run' get the heck away from any dealings with him as fast as possible!!!
Sorry for the long winded post, it was time that others heard about my story!!!

Mike

Hi guys.well i will say you are right on a few things i did sell you the t arms .and i also did give you a shipping quote and it was way off!! and yes i did give you all of your money back after trying very hard to get my end of the deal done trying to find a shipper that would ship them to you for the quote i gave you. then i refunded you your money back and we both agreed that this was just a bad deal for the both of us and i told you i was really sorry it just did not work out .and i will say it again i am really sorry on the deal-Bryan i also hope that we can put this behind us and move on .

I will add my 2 pennies in this...first off, let me say that I don't know either person in the seat cover ordeal, but I can tell you that I have been doing upholstery work for more than 12 years now and I run a shop that puts out quality work...I have installed PUI covers in the past...I will say that they are not the best covers ever sewn up, but better than most...now on to what they look like installed...the two pics that Bryan posted, the backrest cover is not pulled down far enough and bottom cover was not pulled back far enough before it was rung down - period...according to those pictures, they were not installed correctly...if someone installed them that knew what they were doing, and they were that ill fitting, there are ways to get around it and still make the seat look good...the other pics, show staples on a seam..that cover should have been pulled off and taken up with a seam if it was that baggy or they should fixed/added foam in the seat...I can tell you that the covers were not installed right at all...that's an opinion from a professional...if you want, I can show you what a seat cover is supposed to look like when installed correctly...I have more than enough pics of my work...also, I don't think it should be the sellers obligation to compensate you for your bad decision of choosing the wrong person to install the covers...sorry for the long post, but I wanted to clear the air on the install on the covers...thanks...

Chuck.

these covers are flawed anyway you slice it .look at the pics on franks post .and it will clearly show the difference .bad install/defective/flawed/2nds. bottom line is they are not good fitting covers.i will post more pics of the many (flaws)crooked stitching.under sewn.missing pieces .chuncks missing on the covers .your always going to get some random guy throwing his professional/expert option .we see it every day thanks for your concern

first off, I don't play the whole "pm me and talk down to me" game...here's your pm you sent me so everyone can see Bryan...

well thanks for your 2-cents, but how would you explain the missing fabric for lack of a better word sleeves i have had a number of seat covers for the buddy seats made .not bought from a company.and they did not not even come close to looking like these what so ever .maybe yo need to see more pics b4 you are 100% shure .and the crocked sewing all over under sewn.over sewn.ect thanks again for your your 2-cents and i am not fully conviiced that you just happed to stumble across this thread.also this was not a poll of sorts-good day


now to reply to you where everyone can see it, I have nothing to hide...I will try to answer you the best that I can...it's very hard to read your post and understand it with the bad grammar, no punctuation, and misspelled words...first off you asked how I explain the missing fabric...I don't see any missing fabric, as a matter or fact I see where there was an abundance of fabric and they stapled the seam...that's tacky...also, about me needing to see more pics or the seats, feel free to post them...I will tell you that PUI is the manufacturer that Year One uses and Chip Foose uses Year One...so they can't be all that bad, like I said not best and not the worst...onto the next statement you made about me not "just happed to stumble across this thread"...actually, I did stumble across this thread...I am in the process of buying things for my truck and wanted to check the deals forum before sending out any money to anyone and I 'happed' across this thread in the process...and about this not being a poll...you're right it's not a poll, but there was a question as to whether the covers had been installed correctly or not and no one had given a professional opinion on it yet so I did...don't be so quick to be defensive, it makes you look guilty...thanks for jumping on me for making an unbiased analysis of the installation job of the seat covers...

Chuck.

these covers are flawed anyway you slice it .look at the pics on franks post .and it will clearly show the difference .bad install/defective/flawed/2nds. bottom line is they are not good fitting covers.i will post more pics of the many (flaws)crooked stitching.under sewn.missing pieces .chuncks missing on the covers .your always going to get some random guy throwing his professional/expert option .we see it every day thanks for your concern

I don't see any missing chunks or pieces on any of the pictures that Frank posted...I also don't see crooked stitching either...I DO see staples that can plainly be seen and are tacky and a lazy attempt at making the covers fit better...I also see that where you are talking about the stitching being crooked is actually the seam allowance on the inside of the cover laying one way and then the opposite way and the opposite way again making the cover look like it's crooked, but it's actually the way the cover was INSTALLED...your installer does NOT know what he's doing as far as I can tell from the pictures that have been posted...thanks again...

Chuck.

i want to thank you for hijacking the thread and also your for your 2-cents also did Frank or i ask you for your 2-cents??

first off I didn't hijack the thread, I actually kept it completely on topic...that topic being the seat covers that were sold to you according to the first post in this thread...also, this is a free forum and I will post my professional opinion whenever I think it's needed, especially to keep someone from getting hosed by someone else that's trying to make the seller look bad when it was actually the buyers poor decision after the sale...and for the fact that no one asked me for my 2 cents, you made a general statement to "you guys" about being the judge in this post...

if you guys look close at the pics in franks link ,that is what i should have received .notice the EXTRA pieces that cover the hinge area !! then compare the pics of the seat covers i have...you be the judge??

and I was the judge and told you what I thought....just because it's not what you wanted to hear doesn't mean it's not the truth or that it shouldn't be said...

on a side note...now that you got the covers for a song, you can take those covers to a reputable interior shop and they can install the right way...they still look salvageable from the pictures...they just need to be installed correctly...thanks again...

Chuck.

This thread is open to all board members.All related comments welcomed.I just stumbled on here,too.And,not for the same reason.It`s up on the menu page and I clicked it directly.

i want to thank you for hijacking the thread and also your for your 2-cents also did Frank or i ask you for your 2-cents??

I have several forwards of PMs from members that you sent. They send them to me asking why you had, and or not happy about being contacted over this. My suggestion is to keep it in the thread and stop the behind the scenes stuff. That only makes you appear bad to many.

I sent you a PM as well, in reply to another. I hope you can work past the issues here and learn from it.

I dont have an input on this subject just because it can go back and fourth all day I agree with some of it and disagree with some of it. I would like to say Chip Foose does use Year One but just because he uses them does not mean he uses all their products.

All I would like to say is i have dealt with bryan on a couple occasions and I have always recieved everything just as he described. He has also went out of his way to help me a couple times. I do not want to start a back and fourth just a POSITIVE Post to put my dealings with bryan. Donnt mean to jump in or start a fight just an input!

much thanks chris ..

please compare. i really dont care for an opinion.thanks

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please compare. i really dont care for an opinion.thanks
It looks like the upolstry shop took a razor blade to the flap and removed (hacked) it. If it was not there to begin with, why did the upolstry shop not notice the problem and inform you that there was a problem before installing them?

no hacking done. must just be what everyone gets when they order new covers

I have bought parts from Bryan, and sold parts to Bryan. No problems either way. He had more parts that I would have liked, but just didn't have the cash for. I would buy from him again though.

even if they weren't there which they should have been, the upholstery shop should have sewn in a piece in it's place...very easy process if you know what you're doing...hell they even could have added a piece without sewing it and tucked it into the bottom cover and the backrest cover...also, I'd like to add that they might have not been there and probably weren't there buy the looks of the seam that Bryan showed...but like I said, an experienced shop would have corrected the problem and not given you the seats back that way...

Chuck.

I was going to say exactly what Mike said.It was trimmed,by who?Can`t say.It appears they were never sewn at the side skirt (backside of welt) and the extra was trimmed from the seat top.I suspect it either left PUI untrimmed but shouldn`t have passed inspection or was trimmed at upholstery shop.So,they were made wrong and followed by a poor installation,the way it appears to me.A proper upholstery guy would have seen the difference and taken care of it.I`ve never seen an upholsterer not be totally critical of ready-made covers.They like the time/labor savings but always crtique the quality against thier quality of work.I can`t imagine a true upholsterer not inspecting before attempting to install.Judging by the rest of his work I can say that guy isn`t a real upholsterer.Anyone can install ready-made covers and if all goes well you can have a decent looking seat again.But,there is skill and knowledge to upholstery that is required when all things aren`t just right or you get a crappy job.My guy would have pointed that out and given me my options before moving forward.

couldn't have said it better myself...

Chuck

I'll throw in my quick two cents' worth about direct dealings with Bryan and ignore everything else in the thread (though I did read it all).

I've given Bryan a LOT of my money for parts and am very happy with what I got for my money. My first dealing with Bryan was for an AC cab and doors. He delivered it to my house from 100 miles away with no money up front. You can see pics of the cab in my build thread. The cab was EXACTLY as he described and he even threw in a rust-free fender that I wasn't expecting. The '72 doors are flawless. For all he knew he could have driven 200 miles with a loaded trailer -- and this was when gas was around $4/gallon -- and I could have changed my mind when he got there.

My second dealing with Bryan was for a radiator support and complete front crossmember setup with A-arms, spindles, brakes, etc. Paid him up front this time and he delivered them to my house while I was at work out of town. I was delighted when I got home and saw what my money had bought me. Again, you can see pics in my build thread. As I recall it took awhile to get the stuff delivered, but it was a busy time of year and I have no doubt I would have had a refund within 24 hours had I asked for it. As it was, I had plenty of other stuff to keep me busy while waiting for the parts. And hey, it's not like Bryan has nothing better to do than to drive 200+ miles to bring me parts.

I feel bad for people who have had deals fall through or drag on. I've had that happen to me and have also had stuff come up that has kept me from getting parts to people as quickly as we both would have liked. Sh*t happens and IMHO if you want parts delivered absolutely reliably and on time, your only real choice is to buy from a full-time vendor ... and even then you're taking your chances as I found out when I ordered some stuff from Brothers. There are lots of great people out there who will do their damnedest to get your parts shipped out the same day you pay, but sometimes life gets in the way. Not saying that's what happened to start this thread -- that's just a general observation.

FWIW, I'm not subscribing to this thread as I have enough drama in real life. But if you have questions specifically related to my dealings on this board, please don't hesitate to PM me.

Also FWIW, I'm posting here of my own free will. No one coerced me into saying anything. I'm not a shill for anyone.

Brent

This is a message i recieved from brian, just thought evryone might like to see it. it is in response to my comment "i would love to see the pictures for my shops wall of install shame"

Dear consoleman1969,
well well how are we doing? i love your comments you have posted on the truck board.maybe after getting all sides and seeing the pictures you would like to comment you and i both know that crap in a box he sold me was junk/flawed/defective,but i am shure you wont say a word? about the covers!?!?! .NOT THE INSTALL. they worked with what they had and what i gave them .and what was sold to me **** in a box.also GOOD LUCK GETTING YOUR MONEY FROM THE LOSER THAT BID/BOUGHT YOUR SEATS!!! merry x-mas (sent to me through ebvay)

Just for the record brian all i wanted to see was the pictures (we have pictures up in our shop to show what the difference is between correctly and incorrectly installed covers aka what customers are paying for). the covers have the bottom rear ears sewed on in the wrong places they came like this from pui i have tried to help them correct this issue for a while now but i find it is just easier to remove the incorrectly sewn pieces and resew them in the right place because it takes less than 10 minutes, but i also have done a lot of theese seats so i know what the upholstery is supposed to look like. anyway just wanted to thank you for all the x-mass cheer, hope you have more to do than stalk me on ebay next year.

It's none of my business but why not go after the installer for installing them in the first place??? How much did this shop charge you? I would be ticked off at the shop first! You should post the name of the business to warn other board members in your state not to use them for work. My 2 cents.

With that pic showed, it appears PUI forgot to sewn in the flap. But at the same time, the upolstry shop should have seen the problem and corrected before install. I have no problem with you Bryan, or Frank. This is the error on the upolstry shop and you should get you labor money back from them. They should have corrected the problem or notified you of the problem before installing them rather than giving you that crap back. Frank's only responsibilty as a retailer is the part he sold you. He has no control over who installs the parts in the field and therefor can't warranty someone else's labor. Do you think Autozone is going to pay you back for the labor to install the 5 faulty alternators they sold you trying to get one good one? I don't think so.

Tim ,Thank you.are you saying that's just the way they come? or did i just get a special set of covers.i would like to think that when you order new covers you should already have the(missing pieces).and not have to do any extra patching or sewing .you would think that you can take them out of the box and install them? and as for buying ready to go seat covers NEVER AGAIN. The gamble of what you are going to get is NOT worth it also i have a few guys saying that PUI needs to take a BETTER LOOK! at what they are selling to people.i also know that this should have been handled ALOT different !am not calling you out. .i have learned a few lessons thanks to ALL.Bryan

the question is are you going to give the rest of the money to Frank that you still owe him to make up for the difference on what you paid him and what the original price is...

Chuck.

Thanks Liz & Josh for all your time on this issue.
Here is a link to some nice CST buckets with the same PUI covers for comparison. Good shops do good work! http://ads.auctionads.com/pagead/link_676536c68e45ce1f45bc_0a627b1d8bb33c1cb1cea3f6488620a9_http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120342813007&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=
...and here are a few more pics of the install on Bryan's seats.
I accepted Bryan's "Deal" of $156 payment (My cost was $229).
If anyone ever doesn't like a part they get from me, I will always refund their money. If you get a part that you think isn't built right, contact the manufacturer and see if they can make it right/better.
I contacted PUI immediately and provided the pics. They questioned the install because of all those being sold and used. I even offered to provide them with a full set of seats and new repro foams to use to re-evaluate their covers. I did not want to post this thread...Bryan did!

Fat hoe. you sure do have diarrhea of the mouth! :aw:

The original price of the seat covers was not $156 though was it...you paid him less the second time than what you originally paid for the seat covers to cover your cost on the labor for the installation which was wrong...Frank shouldn't have to eat the cost of your installation because your upholstery guy didn't do you right...You should pay Frank what you originally agreed on for the covers and have your upholstery fix the seats for free...because you paid him to install the seats correctly to begin with...But just because he didn't doesn't mean it's Frank's fault and he should have to pay for your bad judgment on who to have install the covers...he sold you the covers, not the install...and I'm not an attention whore, I just believe in what's right is right...and you are the only one that thinks I have diarrhea of the mouth because you know what I'm saying is the truth and you don't like it...

Chuck.

you have some sorta beef with me?? all you are doing at this point is running your mouth not one person has asked you to comment ,and yes you do have diarrhea of the mouth . i have done what was right and paid frank a price that we BOTH agreed with .and i dont give two s#!+$ about what you have said about the covers .they are FLAWED IN MANY WAYS and a few people have stated that but in a round about way .You are beating dead horse ....

flawed but fixable by a reputable upholstery shop that has the experience...it's your upholstery shops fault the covers were installed wrong and look like that, not Franks...so when are you going to give Frank the rest of the original price of the covers...seems to me by the post he made that you quoted three posts ago that it was YOUR "deal" to pay him less than the original price not his...and it seems like Frank just wanted to agree with YOUR "deal" so he could get some of his money back...that does not mean that you still shouldn't pay the original price agreed upon by you and Frank for the seat cover...if you were really a stand up guy like some of these people say you are, you would pay Frank what he originally sold you the covers for...that's all I'm asking...is for you to be a man and do the right thing...

and no I have no beef with you, I have a serious problem with the shady way you have dealt with the situation...

Chuck.

Key Word -............Flawed.............you don'.t pay retail for something that is Flawed? do ya .also if you must know.i have the original INVOICE that show's exactly what was paid for them ... YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU?? now are you gonna go back to the 73 side and promote your shop ? or are what .ALSO YOU SURE SEEM INVESTED IN THIS DEAL .(IN SOME CRAZY GUY WAY) for some random expert

:m3::drama:

I order stuff all the time that comes in and it's flawed and I pay retail for it...if it can be fixed, I fix it...if it can't be fixed I call the manufacturer and I send it back...those covers were any easy fix...not everything is going to be perfect...that's why you paid them to install them...if not then you could have put them on yourself and saved yourself some money...you could have made them look that good, I'm sure...and it doesn't matter what WAS paid for them...it matters what you agreed to pay for them to begin with...Frank and no other supplier is going to sell something to you or anyone else for what they paid for it...they wouldn't make money that way...and btw, just so you know, the $229 that Frank said he paid for them was his jobber/wholesale price, not retail...and about me going over to the 73 side, I have been over there and I've been over here and I've been over to the classifieds...I'll look where I want that's what this board is here for...and I have not tried to promote my shop ONCE on this board or any other board...I offered advice and help to anyone that wants it, but that's all...and I'm like I said before I just believe in what's right is right...btw, you still haven't said whether you are going to stand up and be a man and pay Frank the remaining balance on the seat covers or not...

Chuck


oh yeah and thanks for calling me an expert...makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside...;)

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i've order parts form PICKMUP never no problems. in the retail bussiness my self he is only responsible for the product which from what i read he has done that by refunding your money and thats the end of his responsibility.