I did install the intermittent wiper switch in my 69 and got it working. I also checked the price on the switch at work it looks like $50 give or take some change. Heres some pics of how the install went.

I had the dash allready out so it was pretty easy to start.
the switch is pretty big as you can see.

next i marked where the little square holes on the trim ring line up with the sheetmetal underneath and drilled them. Then I used taper head sheet metal screws and kinda countersunk the holes in the trim ring.

then i mounted the trim ring and drilled the hole to 1/4 in the original knob and put it on the new switch.

now for the wiring i drew up a schematic the wire colors match the wire colors on the new switch up to the relays. All in all i think it could be acomplished for around $60 - $75 maybe cheaper if you work at a place that sells the switches like i do.:)

Man outstanding work!! That looks great, and fairly easy.
Are you going to sell the switches?
I cant wait to install ojne!!:D :D :D

what is the switch originally for?

that is very sweet... i folled your other post but just as a refresher what kinda switch is it again????
--mike

cole hersee makes the switch www.colehersee.com. The one i have is out of a blue bird school bus. The only place that i can find that carries cole hersee switches are heavy truck and bus places. If you get a switch for something other than a blue bird the wiring may be different cole hersee has a bunch of switches that look identical but they are different. And yes i was thinking of putting together a kit of sorts but i have to see if i can get a little bit of a break on the switch prices. I will post when i know more about that.

jason

Excellent info, I moved a copy of this to the FAQ board.

The only 7 wire switch that is listed w/ the intermit is the 75600-07 and it looks like the one in the pick. I looked around the net for a price but can't seem tho find one. I'll get one from a dealer and post the price on it.:bowtie:

It appears from the info on the coleherse site and your schematic that you are using the 75602-04 switch that does not have the self parking connection. I bought switch 75600-04 which has the self park feature. Can this switch can be used and just ignore the self park lead? I believe this is true. I need a little help with a part number on the bosh relays that you are using. It appears that 86 and 85 are the coil of the relay and 30 to 87 are normally open contacts. I dont exactly follow the connection to 87a on the center relay - does this go to a normally closed contact?

the 04 is a 6 wire switch, and the one in the diagram is a 7 wire. 75600-07 has off/park/inter/1/2:bowtie:

cool

Anyone else experienced this setup since original post? Any vendors selling a kit?

Great addition to old truck.

We were going to sell the kit. We had everything ready and boxed up except for the switch and found out the Cole has decided to stop making the switch we need. I hope that we can find a different switch that will work but so far we have not.

I think a delay wiper conversion kit would sell well if someone came up with a good one. I know I'd buy one for each of my trucks...

Any new info on this?

The switch I was using for my int. wiper system was discontinued by the manufacturer. I am still looking for a switch that will work.

I've been keeping my fingers crossed on this one. Looks like some of the guys were getting close. Our wiper motor uses a mechanical self-park. If the 75600-04 switch
Church spoke of will work without the park lead connected we should be in business. Just to give you an idea what some people will pay check out this carcraft link. They don't list the price in the rag, on DSE's site it is $300! http://www.carcraft.com/howto/116_0401_wipe/index.html Can anyone figure out what off-the-shelf stuff these guys are using to see if we can adapt that?

That switch would not work for me.
I had to use the 75601-04 and it works fine.
This is the switch they quit making and said the one we tried first should work the same but it does not! It will not park, nor will it go from low to high w/o turning it off first.

So where did you find the discontinued switch?

my local supplier had one.

(sigh) I'll see what I can find and post a source if I find one.

Couldn't find em. Wife said Google it. Found 1 supplier. They only had 3 and I bought 1. $54.06 plus freight. On your marks.... Get set.... Go! http://commerce1.cera.net/tacbusparts/sections/catalog/catalog.asp?cat_id=485

Got one. Ordered it a few seconds ago. Now if I can get Church to confirm if he used the schematic above or configured it himself.

1 left. ;)

1 left. ;)

None left. UPDATE--15 left and they can order more. Turns out they sell the 75600-04 Cole Hersee switch with their number of 75601-04.

I know Church tried the 75600-04 and it didn't work, but is there a way to make it work? According to Cole Hersee is the 75600-04 is for wiper motors with dynamic parking and the 75601-04 is for wiper motors without dynamic parking. Could somebody explain this one to me?

Anybody have a REAL 75601-04 they'd part with?

Or better yet somebody should come up with a kit that works and sell that to me.

Uh, oh. :eek: I read on their website that the dynamic parking/ non-dynamic was one actually breaks itself electricly and one just coasts to a stop. Have no idea what we have. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Hoping I get the right one. They charge a 15% restock fee and you got to boot the freight too. I'll figure out what I can.
Rich

This is what i found on dynamic wipers....http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/schem/wiper.htm

Thanks. I have not recieved my switch yet. This should help when I do. Will keep thread updated.

I followed the schematic at the top of this thread exactly. My electrical technician actually has contected Cole about the discontined switch and yes it is different than the 75600-04. They claim it wil work but trust me it dont.
The switch you need is the 75601-04 to make it work correctly. You will also need 3 relays. The cheapest place I was able to find them was at www.allelectronics.com. I used the part number RLY-421.

I forgot to mention that you will have to modify your dash to mount the switch. So you might as well go ahead and purchase the NO LIMIT BILLET ALUMINUM INSTRUMENT PANEL AND GLOVE BOX DOOR from us since you have to cut the tabs to mount the switch anyway. :D

Any idea what exactly what the difference is between the 75600-04 and the 75601-04? (just for the sake of knowing)

Ok. Got my switch and it is stamped 75600-04. Kinda bummed. I did order 75601-04 from the website. Gonna contact Cole. See if I can get ahold of an engineer. Or at least a schematic of it in operation.... Will keep posted.

Cole told us that the 75601-04 was being replaced by the 75600-04 although they are different switches. I noticed that New Port Engineering is using one of the cole switches. When I first ordered, I ordered through them and somehow they are getting the 75600-04 to work. WE never could figure it out.

Ditto Chickenwing. I also ordered the 75601-04 and got a switch stamped 75600-04. Would have called and had it returned, but customer service was closed on Saturday. I figured I would hook it up and see what happens...... Hooked it up exactly as the schematic on the first page showed and ....

It is alive.....it works GREAT. Better than I imagined. Piece of cake. And for the knob, I only had to enlarge the hole in my factory knob to 1/4 inch and reuse the existing set-screw.

That's some good news. :D I guess I will have to get one now.Thanks Putter

The one I eneded up with (75600-04) according to Cole is for Dynamic Park wiper motors. But, if you look at the schematic, the wire for the park is not even used on our trucks, so....
Just in case you run into this ( I did and almost had a panic attack)....my wipers wouldn't run in the HI SPEED position. Turns out that I had the blue and the purple wires reversed at the existing truck plug (see schematic). After reversing them, they worked fine.

Putter, what did you do for relays?

Just used three bosch relays. Or you can look under the hood of most F0rdS and find the same ones. Do not use the ones at Autozone that are next to the fog lamps. For some reason, the 87 and 87a both operate together instead of switching between the two. I think they are made by Pella, or Hella, or something very close to that.

YOU DA MAN PUTTER!!!!
I've been busy scanning wiring diagrams to send to Cole for assistance. Got finished and checked in here first. More n two hours of scanin, cuttin, pastin down the drain. ;)
Was scared to just start hookin things up for fear of burnin up the switch. Glad you jumped in. Thanks again!

Holler when you get is put in. I had to remove the cluster so I could trim the lip of the dash. (see 1st pic in this post) How I did mine was to simply cut a couple of relief slits in it and fold it out flat. I guess you can also use a cut-off or die grinder and remove it all together, but I wasn't near the compressor. I used a hack-saw (took like 4 strokes) and a pair of pliers.
I swear, if the switches were not so expensive, it would be easy to set these up and sell them as a kit, pre-wired and ready to plug in.

They definately are getting top dollar for the switch. You gotta admit it is worth every penny. Still kinda cheap if you consider the extremes some other shops went to for an intermittent wiper set-up. In that link I posted earlier, those guys are fabricating adapter plates to use late model moters. Starting price is $300. You could probably still do it and sell em for $100-$125 and guys would still feel like it was a good deal. You could even go with all GM's in the 67? and up year group. Camaros come to mind...
Will be a while before I install mine. Still bird season. Will try to post some pics when I do. If someone does not beat me to it.
When I go recreational junk-yarding for the relays, I would like to find something with some good connectors. I like stock-looking mods. Wich means I hate just installing something with spade terminals. Could you steer me towards a year/model on the Ferds for the relays?
Thanks.
Rich

I think I have gotten several out of mid 90's ones. Usually under the hood. Other than being marked with the FORD logo, they look exactly like a regular Bosch relay. You can get a plug-in harness for relays at almost any audio shop that installed car security systems. If you go that route, be sure to remove any diodes that jump from one terminal to the next. Don't want to fry the new switch or wiper motor.

Roger that. Look for diodes. The free-roam wrecking yards around here do not get too many <10 year old cars. They all go to the full service yards and they are pricey. I'll find something...

I wonder if something like this would work? Its a bit cheaper.
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=966

I'm going to look into this one!
I'll let you know something as soon as I get it.

I got mine ordered. That should be all of them.

Thanks Guys

Thread on wiper mod switch using chevette parts.
http://207.44.196.117/vboard/showpost.php3?p=1095111&postcount=7

The only issue that may show up using the controller that Nyncompute listed is....does it still offer the ability to use your washer feature? Or does that switch install in addition to your existing switch?

Thanks for the link Rod. I saw the thread and it has my interest. I have the bus switch so I am gonna go ahead and use it per Putters additional info. When i go recreational junk-yarding I will keep an eye out for the parts for the mod. Might even buy em if it's 5-% off day.

In addition to the Chevette delay I also found that mid 70 Novas and Buicks(same body platform) also used an optional delay. Again these are nice because they also used the same wiper motor and switch wiring as the 67-72 trucks. The Nova style is actually smaller than the Chevette and has fewer wires.

The nice thing about these delays are they are separate from the regular wiper switch. A pull on and rotate for a little delay or a lot. I mounted mine in an existing hole on the right side in the metal lip under the gauge bezel.

I think the Novas are harder to find than the "well optioned" Chevettes.

Good luck hunting.

Bob

Believe JC Whitney has an intermittent wiper switch in their catalog. Mounts below dash. Not sure how it work but it is much cheaper.

Maybe this will help. I filled in a couple of the most common questions that are asked. I hope Blue 69 doesn't mind that I used his schematic.

Believe JC Whitney has an intermittent wiper switch in their catalog. Mounts below dash. Not sure how it work but it is much cheaper.

Yeah, I've saw it. :barf: That thing is ugly. I think it is even supposed to be mounted with 2 sided tape. I like these Nova, chevette, and blue bird options. Everything ends up looking like a factory installation. To me, if you do not even notice a mod because it looks stock... That is the ultimate compliment. :metal:

I just bought a cole switch (same PN) and instead of two red wires coming out, it has a red and a blue wire coming out (other wires are the same). Can I connect the blue and the red to accomplish the same thing as connecting the two red wires together?

Sonny

DON'T use the blue wire. It is the park wire. Leave it alone. And certain switches only have one RED wire. That one gets hooked up as shown in the diagram.

Thanks! I am on the phone right now ordering my resto packet from Chevy!

Sonny

Putter, I finally got around to installing the switch you hooked up for me. It is a very clean installation! The relays are mounted to the right of the fuse block, just to the left of the steering column on the firewall. I hope to fab up a better mount for the relays though. I just used a zip-tie stick on mount with 2 zip ties. Followed the factory harness routing to the wiper motor. You terminated the pigtail perfect!! I still gotta mount the trim ring and the original knob.
I say thank-you!

(It's about time -J/K).....I am glad to hear that it worked out for you. It will be one of you FAVORITE 'updates' once you use it a few times.
Thanks for letting me help.

anyone ever do this for an 86'/..love to try it? :metal:

Overcamber,
Is your '86 on the turn signal stalk or on the dash? I added delay to an '81 (switch on the dash) by just swapping in a factory delay switch (which has an integral delay module). If you '86 is the same, I've seen these switches for sale on the parts board.

Me (being the electrical ignoramus i am) was wondering if anyone had thought of using a headlight/bezel switch for a wiper switch. I was thinking this because it has 2 optional positions (low/hi) for on, and it has the 'delay'/regulator function for controlling the dimming of dash lights... and when you turn it all the way counterclockwise you get dome light in addition... so i wonder could the wiper motor be rigged to one or both of the positions on the headlight switch to turn on, then use the 'dome on' function for washer pump (though i suppose that would be fast speed+fluid) or could you have it that first pull is on with whatever speed (dictated by dial control) and second pull is washer pump on in addition to the first..

Please update my 'crackheadedness' as my poor ME mind doesnt do wiring much

I believe what will happen is you will slow the wiper down even to a stop, But it will have no intermitten affect. The dome light part of the switch is just a reostat or varible resistance.
Rick / Ca.

Anybody know of a kit to do this yet?

OUCH!!! Anybody check on prices for these Cole Hersee switches lately? The cheapest I can find is $114.... OUCH!!!

I might have to wait on Putter hookin me up with a plug and play version of this... :(

NutZ

There may be another way to do this but I have not tested it yet.
I found that Hella makes an intermittent wiper switch but it does not have an on /off swith built into it. I am thinking that this swtich could work inline with the factory switch.
the switch will allow wipers to be adjusted continuously from 2 sweeps per minute to 20 sweeps per minute.

Switch is around $43.00

OUCH!!! Anybody check on prices for these Cole Hersee switches lately? The cheapest I can find is $114.... OUCH!!!

I might have to wait on Putter hookin me up with a plug and play version of this... :(

NutZ

Holy hell.....where are you looking. I just checked the Transportation Accessories Company website and they are STILL $54.06 each (plus shipping). You are looking for part number 75601-04 CLICK HERE (http://commerce1.cera.net/tacbusparts/sections/catalog/catalog.asp?cat_id=485)
Oh, I would be HAPPY to hook you up a switch. PM me when you are ready. Labor is very affordable....or often worked out in trade!

There may be another way to do this but I have not tested it yet.
I found that Hella makes an intermittent wiper switch but it does not have an on /off swith built into it. I am thinking that this swtich could work inline with the factory switch.
the switch will allow wipers to be adjusted continuously from 2 sweeps per minute to 20 sweeps per minute.

Switch is around $43.00

My ONLY glitch with that is the fact you have to mount & operate a seperate switch. And on our trucks with a factory switch, when you operate the washer function, it will automatically engage the slow speed wipers. If the delay unit is connected inline on the slow speed circuit, you would seemingly have to set the delay to 'none', then hit the wash feature, right? I am not bashing the idea, because I was ready to do that myself before the Cole Hersee switch came into the picture, it just might not be the most practical idea...especially since the Cole switch is only $10.06 more.

Holy hell.....where are you looking. I just checked the Transportation Accessories Company website and they are STILL $54.06 each (plus shipping). You are looking for part number 75601-04 CLICK HERE (http://commerce1.cera.net/tacbusparts/sections/catalog/catalog.asp?cat_id=485)
Oh, I would be HAPPY to hook you up a switch. PM me when you are ready. Labor is very affordable....or often worked out in trade!



My ONLY glitch with that is the fact you have to mount & operate a seperate switch. And on our trucks with a factory switch, when you operate the washer function, it will automatically engage the slow speed wipers. If the delay unit is connected inline on the slow speed circuit, you would seemingly have to set the delay to 'none', then hit the wash feature, right? I am not bashing the idea, because I was ready to do that myself before the Cole Hersey switch came into the picture, it just might not be the most practical idea...especially since the Cole switch is only $10.06 more.

That is not a bad price on the Cole Hersee switch.

I am checking with a company to see if I can get you a better price.
How many people are interested in a switch?

I am checking with a company to see if I can get you a better price.
How many people are interested in a switch?

OK got a price on them of $52.95 plus shipping for the 75601-04.

I have always been interested in a kit form with relays necessary with instructions. That would keep lots of head scratching on my end. Hair line is already receding.

Church and I are putting our thoughts into one bowl and stirring it up to see if we can produce a plug-n-play switch kit that members can afford. Not hard to build the kit, but it needs to look nice and be simple to install.....and that is what we are working on.

anyone have a plug and play kit yet,if so,i could use one,just let me know who and how much to pay,later

Hilljob,
I would say that I am 80% complete on a plug-n-play kit. I just have to get my hands on a specific type of connector first. I have everything else lined up and ready.

If anyone else would be interested in obtaining a delay wiper KIT, please PM me so I can get a rough idea of the interest level.
I have not registered as a vendor, and a KIT is not for sale yet, but I will make them available 'legally' (within board-vendor regulations) when the time comes.