i was wondering if anyone had pictures of their one piece windows and how you intalled them i would like to know the whole ten yards.


Thanks,

Take a look at this

http://www.webrodder.com/article.php?AID=286&SID=7&CID=

have you done that process of putting that in would it be easier just putting a one piece window compare to an electrical one piece window?

We put 1 peice glass in mine, dads, and gradpas trucks. No need to cut any extra holes in the door. I can send you a timplet for the glass if you like. and yes it's easier than rebiulding stock.

I used the brothers one piece power kit, and I am not happy with the fitting of the felts, etc. I know of another board member that used the brothers kit as well and has the same felt fitment issues. Possibly the specialty power kit is better.
I will have to do some custom mods etc. to make mine look good.

We put 1 peice glass in mine, dads, and gradpas trucks. No need to cut any extra holes in the door. I can send you a timplet for the glass if you like. and yes it's easier than rebiulding stock.

I would like a template. is this for power or manual?.. I would also like to see some closeup pictures of the felts, channels etc installed. where did you purchase the felts, channels etc.

Thanks

that is one of the reasons i didn't want to put the one piece window in i knew there would be a problem somewhere and i didn't want to cut my door so much that why i was asking if it easier putting a manual one piece window in and i would like a tem. as well.

Mine is power. That is why i asked blackdiesel if the ones he installed were power or manual...

My truck is power and dads and grandpas are manual. We bought the kit from brothers as well for dads. Didn't like it at all. It did not come with anything to hold the front of the glass (except the felt) in the front when the window is down. You have to make that yourself. And once you made that, you just take a stick of felt track and bend it to fit the door, put the glass in the OEM window regulator, and your done. I will send whoever wants the pattern, just send me your address. It will take me a week or so to do it. I have sent it off right now to have a set cut. It will be that long before I get it back. P.S. make it out of tempered glass, not lamanent.

I would like a template. is this for power or manual?.. I would also like to see some closeup pictures of the felts, channels etc installed. where did you purchase the felts, channels etc.

ThanksI have Bothers kit also. Mine is power windows and the felt are just as you said "cheap" and my window rattle along with the windows don't follow the window channels as the window is rolling up. There's a guy with a 55 that I show at a show and he did his windows himself and used a much thicker felt on the bottom and his window went up into the window channels nice and straight with no rattling at all. I'm planning putting new bottom felts so they don't rattle so much. I hate rattles, it makes it sound like my truck is falling apart.

Has anyone tried the kits from classic truck glass?

My truck is power and dads and grandpas are manual. We bought the kit from brothers as well for dads. Didn't like it at all. It did not come with anything to hold the front of the glass (except the felt) in the front when the window is down. You have to make that yourself. And once you made that, you just take a stick of felt track and bend it to fit the door, put the glass in the OEM window regulator, and your done. I will send whoever wants the pattern, just send me your address. It will take me a week or so to do it. I have sent it off right now to have a set cut. It will be that long before I get it back. P.S. make it out of tempered glass, not lamanent.



I'll pm you my addy. I was thinking i was going to have to go to a custom glass shop to have the fit i need. Could you post some upclose pics of the felts etc. I need to redo mine completely as the felts are out in some areas almost 1/2 in some areas in order to seal the glass...

I'm having new glass cut for grandpas truck, let a guy talk us into using lamanated glass. When I get the temperd glass in I will shoot a video of putting in back in and put it on youtube. how would that be?

that would be great if you do post it on youtube. i would like a temp. ill send you my address. So either way anyone goes their is a problem with all of them but yet its easier than restoring you originals, now would it be cheaper doing the originals?

The last set of 1/4" temperd side glass that I bought (for my 38 coupe) was close to the same size as ower trucks, costed around 50 bucks per side, the felt track cost around 20 bucks. I have bought this track at glass shops as well as at swap meets/car shows. It comes in 6' sticks. and the felt wipers that go on each side of the glass. All of it should cost 175 to 200 bucks.

im actually now leaning toward the origianl windows just buying new glass and chroming the window frames.

Hi All,

So I've been reading up on this thread and had a couple of questions, it sounds like the power one piece window kit from Brothers is not the best out there. My question is, is it just the power kit or does the same hold true for the manual version as well?

Thanks,
Sam

I picked up the glass yesterday for grandpas truck. I plan on putting it in this weekend. I will get that video up soon. Dad and I put in brothers manual kit in his truck, and had to make an exrta part to mack it work right. I can show and tell you better than I can type it. So if you can wait a little, I will try to show you what I know. Which might not be much help, but we have put in 5 sets of 1 piece glasses.

I picked up the glass yesterday for grandpas truck. I plan on putting it in this weekend. I will get that video up soon. Dad and I put in brothers manual kit in his truck, and had to make an exrta part to mack it work right. I can show and tell you better than I can type it. So if you can wait a little, I will try to show you what I know. Which might not be much help, but we have put in 5 sets of 1 piece glasses.

Thanks BD that would be great. Right now I'm no where near ready for the glass but I did remove my vent windows with the intention of putting in 1 piece units. I still have my vent window set up and I haven't cut anything out of the doors yet so I can still go back to stock at this point, just weighting the benefits of each one.

Thanks,
Sam

I picked up the glass yesterday for grandpas truck. I plan on putting it in this weekend. I will get that video up soon. Dad and I put in brothers manual kit in his truck, and had to make an exrta part to mack it work right. I can show and tell you better than I can type it. So if you can wait a little, I will try to show you what I know. Which might not be much help, but we have put in 5 sets of 1 piece glasses.

im sure i speak of myself and others on here by saying thank you in advance for the help with these windows.

alright fellers, i got the videos made. i have to go to my girlfriends ball game real quick and when i get home ill edit it all into one and post it up. i think it turned out ok, we'll let yall decide ;)

sounds great!!

http://s270.photobucket.com/albums/jj100/blackdiesel02/?action=view&current=57truckwindowglassinstallationpart1.flv
http://s270.photobucket.com/albums/jj100/blackdiesel02/?action=view&current=57truckwindowglassinstallationpart2.flv

had to do it in two vids because it was too long on one. sorry for the poor quality, i had to compress it so much just to get up uploaded. Hope this helps

Does any company make a better kit than Brothers, are they the only game in town for 1 piece window kits?

http://s270.photobucket.com/albums/jj100/blackdiesel02/?action=view&current=57truckwindowglassinstallationpart1.flv
http://s270.photobucket.com/albums/jj100/blackdiesel02/?action=view&current=57truckwindowglassinstallationpart2.flv

had to do it in two vids because it was too long on one. sorry for the poor quality, i had to compress it so much just to get up uploaded. Hope this helps

Nice vids. I would like your template I'll shoot you a pm.
Thanks

I will send out the template for the brothers kit, unless you ask for the one that we made up. The one we made is a little bigger at the top, that mades it fit better at the top. You just have to cut the side of your door under the latch (as seen in the video) to get the exrta room. IMO that's the best way, but alittle more fab work. Dad & I have thought about getting an old door and tape it start to finish. I know I wish someone would have for me.

I will send out the template for the brothers kit, unless you ask for the one that we made up. The one we made is a little bigger at the top, that mades it fit better at the top. You just have to cut the side of your door under the latch (as seen in the video) to get the exrta room. IMO that's the best way, but alittle more fab work. Dad & I have thought about getting an old door and tape it start to finish. I know I wish someone would have for me.

I've got a pair of doors that I would volunteer for the vid.:lol: I pm'e you and forgot I wanted your template not brothers. Thanks Jared

I've got a pair of doors that I would volunteer for the vid.:lol: I pm'e you and forgot I wanted your template not brothers. Thanks Jared

alright ill be sure to get it in the mail to you.

Let me guess, the doors you want to volunteer just so happen to be the ones that go in your truck? :lol::lol::lol:

:lol:I would like the doors back when done.:lol:

How long would it take to do a pair of doors start to finish? I could come down and help if interested.

power or manual?

power or manual?

Manual for me.

I tell you what, you can come down and your wife can christmas shop in the malls at Branson. I can get all the stuff. It will take about 3 weeks to get the glass. We can do it in around 4 hours or less. Let me know, I have to send the pattern out on a wednesday. but theres no hurry, you pick the day.

I tell you what, you can come down and your wife can christmas shop in the malls at Branson. I can get all the stuff. It will take about 3 weeks to get the glass. We can do it in around 4 hours or less. Let me know, I have to send the pattern out on a wednesday. but theres no hurry, you pick the day.

Sounds good to me. PM on it's way.

Ok folks, grimss and I are going to do this in 3-4 weeks. If you want to wait for the template until we make the video. I will send a copy of the dvd with it. If you think you've seen enough to get the job done. Shoot me a PM and I will get yours in the mail this week. brian

You are providing a wonderful service to the world!!

I will be more than happy to pay for a dvd and template once you guys get it done.

You are providing a wonderful service to the world!!

I will be more than happy to pay for a dvd and template once you guys get it done.

well, not the whole world. Just the part that counts. lol

Ok folks, grimss and I are going to do this in 3-4 weeks. If you want to wait for the template until we make the video. I will send a copy of the dvd with it. If you think you've seen enough to get the job done. Shoot me a PM and I will get yours in the mail this week. brian

Sounds like a winner, i would like to see start to finish... Thanks for your time and sharing your tricks etc. :metal:

Count me in. I would like to do this to my truck.

I'm also interested.

I got my templates thank you blackdiesel!! i'll be keeping my eye out for the install. :metal:

I got the templates, Thanks Blackdiesel hopefully the weather doesn't get to bad in Texas to where i can work on my truck haha

let us know what weatherstripping you guys are using as well and where we could get it. thanks. :metal:

has anyone tryed to start the door without blackdiesel showing us how?

Grimss is coming over today in about 8 hours. we'll get the install filmed and burned on dvd's. along with whats needed for installation. stay tuned lol

thats perfect whenever its done are you going to post a video or just dvd's? If your doing just dvd's you know my address send me one my way if you could man this is a great deal your doing for everyone.

If we (or someone) can put it on the web, somewhere that would be great. Every time I try I have to down side it so much and it takes so long to down load, it's not worth watching. We got it done earliey grimss took some pix also, he should be home before long. He might be to tierd to post tonight though.

o okay well i wish i could man it would be something that would benefit everyone so im guessing it don't take long to do then just a little talent would get the job done.

Just made it home. 4hrs I'm beat. I'll see how my pics turned out later. Had a great time. The process is pretty easy once you see what has to be done.

Just made it home. 4hrs I'm beat. I'll see how my pics turned out later. Had a great time. The process is pretty easy once you see what has to be done.

whew, that was a long day for you then. ill work on the vid some tomorrow. and it is a fairly simple install indeed.

whew, that was a long day for you then. ill work on the vid some tomorrow. and it is a fairly simple install indeed.

Great work.

When cutting the area behind the latch, do you just cut a slot out to allow the track to push further towards the rear of the door?
Do you have to modify the latch at all?

You should start selling these kits, I would probably buy one. :chevy:

No mod to the latch. Don't want to sell anything, Just tring to help guy's out from getting ripped off, like we have in the past. I think just the shipping from brothers for dad's was 80 bucks. That's half the cost of the parts needed to do the job. Not to counting the $400 for the parts. You can get the same stuff for $160 from your local glass shop.

Here's a quick pic of what has to be done to the metal tracks in the door.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/doormod.jpg

From hearing what Brian and his dad said about the brothers kit It has no metal track for the flexible window track to sit in to the front. So it just flops and that why the doors rattle and window can come out of the track. Guys with the brothers kits may want to look into adding that to there doors.

back track has 6 spot welds to drill out. 4 bottom and 2 top.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/doormod2.jpg

The vid should show this stuff better.

you was doin a good job jared, keep postin pics. lol

Here's the track out and the bottom plate was removed so we just had the metal track.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/103_6089.jpg

Missed the pic of getting the hole marked and cut, but it's the same location as were it originally was, just moving it out about a 1/4". It was tacked in place just at the top. We did need to tweek it later.

Note the top of the track is now move up just to were it clears the nut for the latch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/103_6094.jpg

you was doin a good job jared, keep postin pics. lol

I did miss some stuff that is talked about on the vid. It was pretty easy to miss some pics as we were running around alot looking at all the other cars and truck you and your family has.

Here is a pic I missed but the window regulator needs to be trimmed. One of the arms is bent into a channel. the part circled needs have the channel trimmed down flat. It will bind up with the front metal track if not flattend out. I'll try to get a better pic later on this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/regulatormod.jpg

Once the front track was done we layed the glass on the door to find the position of the front track. Another missed pic.:lol: On mine we just drilled another set of holes for the front track. Brian's dad's truck he extended the mounting bracket to use the factory holes. I guess if your doors are already painted you may want to do that. The top will be held by the flexible track so it's just loose.

Here is is close to where it needed to be.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/103_6117.jpg

The part that holds the glass needs to be trimmed up.

here

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/windowtrackmod1.jpg

and here

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/windowtrackmod2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/103_6097.jpg

Next the window roller track needs to lengthened forgot how much but 3 3/4 sound right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/103_6098.jpg

That's all the pics I've got on all the mods. Bending the flexible window track is tricky but just take your time. I have not done the window felts but it just takes some bending and fitting. The rest is just putting it all back together. Some tweaking will be needed. Plus watch the vid for more info.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/103_6115.jpg

You have got me thinking. I always thought you had to weld in a filler at the front of the window frame to use single glass. Correct me if I'm wrong but assuming I already have to replace all the weather striping, channel felts, etc. Is the only other cost the glass? And labor for modification? From looking at the photo "doormod" it appears like the factory mechanism is designed to pivot the glass around the front as it drops. It also looks like the front channel is NOT parallel to the back to allow for the glass being narrower at the bottom, right?

I rebuilt my regulators before so they are good and I have spare door guts from two other doors. I have mine completely disassembled and it does not look like that much work. One of my vents windows is broken and the drivers glass is pretty scratched up from 40 years of scraping ice off it so it was going to be replaced too.

It's all in what you like, some like wings, and some don't. cost and time about the same. The one piece might be cheaper. It's real easy to do, just takes alittle time to get it all ajusted, but no biggie. Got the vidio all edited, 18min. I'm tring youtube one more time. a part 1 and part 2. we will see if it works

looking forward to the vid. Thanks for the writeup gentlemen!

I took the door apart again to take a pic of what was done to the window regulator. Here is all that need to be trimmed off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/103_6127.jpg

From looking at the photo "doormod" it appears like the factory mechanism is designed to pivot the glass around the front as it drops. It also looks like the front channel is NOT parallel to the back to allow for the glass being narrower at the bottom, right?


The glass doesn't pivot, it's more of a slides on the rollers back to front as it goes up.

The front channel is leaned in at the bottom some but the pic angle makes it look more.

Thanks, I remember now how the mechanism works, rollers move horizontally as window is moved up and down. Did you just weld on the 3" roller extension?

Yes blackdiesel did just weld that. I think it's more than 3. here's it together.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/103_6123.jpg

any youtube gurus on here?!? i saved my vid to what they reccomended as far as formats go, but it says estimated time left is over 10 hours.... and thats for only half of the installation!!! and even if you leave it to upload it will fail within the hour. Jared is trying to get the pattern for the glass made into a PDF, so we wont have to ship the patterns anymore. so i need to get this uploaded to the net so i wont have to worry about it. HELP

Yes blackdiesel did just weld that. I think it's more than 3. here's it together.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/ovaljed/panel%20truck/windows/103_6123.jpg

Is the hole on the left just because it was in the piece or needed to mount to the regulator?? Can't wait to see the video.

Is the hole on the left just because it was in the piece or needed to mount to the regulator?? Can't wait to see the video.
the hole you are referring to was simply in the piece i needed to lengthen the track. it is not used during installation

Thanks for patiently answering all the questions, can't wait to see the video.

i finally got fed up and split it up into five ~4 minute videos. they seem to be uploading to youtube okay. i am on the 3rd as of right now. with any luck ill be able to post them to this thread in the A.M. stay tuned!

(hope the quality is decent! i loathe grainy vids...)