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billetproofcustoms 09-30-2016 09:38 PM

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So, here is the compression readings...

Cylinder hone and ring job? Full rebuild?

Any thoughts?

factorystock 10-01-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by billetproofcustoms (Post 7728970)
would the chevy blue be correct for this year truck? My research seems to indicate yes.

No, Chevy blue was not used on the 283, dark gray was used. The aftermarket does not offer any correct engine paint formulas ( either blue 230-250, dark gray 283 or green 292 327) for any '63-'66 Chevy Truck. Apparently they feel theres not a big enough market for this product, I think they are very wrong. Nobody has seen more low mileage original trucks with documentation than 60-66, the accurate info he offered has come from many years of extensive research, we are lucky to have him in this hobby and on this forum.

likaroc13 10-02-2016 12:16 AM

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:agree:

oem4me 10-02-2016 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by factorystock (Post 7729928)
Nobody has seen more low mileage original trucks with documentation than 60-66, the accurate info he offered has come from many years of extensive research, we are lucky to have him in this hobby and on this forum.

The dude knows. :metal:

chtr65 10-18-2016 09:56 PM

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Anyone have a good source for the original grey for the 65 283 motors? My 65still retains its factory grey paint. I do have the original grey valve covers for my engine. Also, we have a good automotive paint supplier in our area here in central Pa. I'm thinking about pulling the motor this winter, cleaning things up a little and seems like a good time to respray the block. I could take the valve covers in for a paint match. But, perhaps someone has done a spray card. In the vintage Porsche community, we have a few guys that have done the research on correct paint colors. They offer these paint spray out cards for a small fee. Any thoughts?

LT1 Burb 10-21-2016 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chtr65 (Post 7746073)
Anyone have a good source for the original grey for the 65 283 motors? My 65still retains its factory grey paint. I do have the original grey valve covers for my engine. Also, we have a good automotive paint supplier in our area here in central Pa. I'm thinking about pulling the motor this winter, cleaning things up a little and seems like a good time to respray the block. I could take the valve covers in for a paint match. But, perhaps someone has done a spray card. In the vintage Porsche community, we have a few guys that have done the research on correct paint colors. They offer these paint spray out cards for a small fee. Any thoughts?

I have seen valve covers from dark grey to battle ship grey but I think in the end, if it is grey then you have got it right.

PapaSmurf66 12-01-2016 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by factorystock (Post 7729928)
No, Chevy blue was not used on the 283, dark gray was used. The aftermarket does not offer any correct engine paint formulas ( either blue 230-250, dark gray 283 or green 292 327) for any '63-'66 Chevy Truck. Apparently they feel theres not a big enough market for this product, I think they are very wrong. Nobody has seen more low mileage original trucks with documentation than 60-66, the accurate info he offered has come from many years of extensive research, we are lucky to have him in this hobby and on this forum.

Hello all, I have read through this thing 2, 3 or maybe even more times and still gain something from it everytime. As far as '60-66', you are absolutely my hero. I can't imagine in my dreams these trucks you have or seen. These trucks were built to be used and to have example with such LOW miles and options is just plain awesome.

With all that said I do have a question, I am trying to figure out what color the white colored accent is for the door panels? And is that "white" color only to be in the recess or on the entire center of the panel. I admit I have seen both now. :confused:

My '66 is nothing like your guys have but I am attempting more a resto mod since really only the body and rear end were original. I swore I saw the colors on this write up but I've been wrong before. Any help is appreciated. And keep the info (and pictures) coming...

likaroc13 12-02-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf66 (Post 7783906)
Hello all, I have read through this thing 2, 3 or maybe even more times and still gain something from it everytime. As far as '60-66', you are absolutely my hero. I can't imagine in my dreams these trucks you have or seen. These trucks were built to be used and to have example with such LOW miles and options is just plain awesome.

With all that said I do have a question, I am trying to figure out what color the white colored accent is for the door panels? And is that "white" color only to be in the recess or on the entire center of the panel. I admit I have seen both now. :confused:

My '66 is nothing like your guys have but I am attempting more a resto mod since really only the body and rear end were original. I swore I saw the colors on this write up but I've been wrong before. Any help is appreciated. And keep the info (and pictures) coming...

The white on a '66 door panel would look like this:
https://flic.kr/p/ysC6r3

PapaSmurf66 12-05-2016 11:14 AM

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cool thanks for the response. Is it the white or an off white/ivory? do you happen to know the correct paint code?

likaroc13 12-06-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf66 (Post 7787353)
cool thanks for the response. Is it the white or an off white/ivory? do you happen to know the correct paint code?

I'm not sure. Hopefully one of our fellow factory-correct members with more knowledge can answer that.

60-66 12-06-2016 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf66 (Post 7787353)
cool thanks for the response. Is it the white or an off white/ivory? do you happen to know the correct paint code?

Heres some paint info for you from the 1966 Chevrolet Data Book.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...%20bed/002.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...%20bed/005.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...%20bed/007.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...0bed/006_1.jpg

JohnDawson 12-17-2016 04:11 PM

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Hey everyone forgive me if my questions have already been answered in previous posts...(the new guy and not too familiar with site yet) I'm looking for matching paint numbers for my '66 C10. Truck is the 503 Light Green. But need correct match for 250 engine, the fawn firewall, and correct Ivory white for two tone body.

66pnl 12-18-2016 02:52 AM

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Was there ever a seal or gasket of any type between the inner wheel well and the inner bedside on a fleetside.

Lokin4AReason 12-19-2016 11:31 AM

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boy .... do i have some homework to do before i start tearing at my truck =/

LT1 Burb 01-15-2017 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 66pnl (Post 7798763)
Was there ever a seal or gasket of any type between the inner wheel well and the inner bedside on a fleetside.

Yes, there was some caulking in between there, I used windshield sealant
on mine.

corvettejim1968 01-15-2017 10:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf66 (Post 7783906)
Hello all, I have read through this thing 2, 3 or maybe even more times and still gain something from it everytime. As far as '60-66', you are absolutely my hero. I can't imagine in my dreams these trucks you have or seen. These trucks were built to be used and to have example with such LOW miles and options is just plain awesome.

With all that said I do have a question, I am trying to figure out what color the white colored accent is for the door panels? And is that "white" color only to be in the recess or on the entire center of the panel. I admit I have seen both now. :confused:

My '66 is nothing like your guys have but I am attempting more a resto mod since really only the body and rear end were original. I swore I saw the colors on this write up but I've been wrong before. Any help is appreciated. And keep the info (and pictures) coming...


1964 and 1965
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...pssqzdtwoz.jpg

1966
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nelandseat.jpg

PapaSmurf66 01-16-2017 11:36 AM

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Wow, I never realized that the different years had different door panel paint schemes. Thanks

BabyBlue64 01-27-2017 11:10 AM

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Is this color original that I found on my '64 rearend?

VictoriaHardware 01-27-2017 10:44 PM

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It looks like it could be a factory inspection mark. Brushed or sprayed-on in a very inconsistent manner as it passes some check station. You often see them on the front suspension where grease has covered and preserved them.

Classic v6 GMC's 02-03-2017 11:53 PM

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Found some green paint on the edge of the steering pump and bracket.

ibuybrits 03-30-2017 10:06 AM

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What color was the 283 in this time period? Thanks

plainred65 04-03-2017 11:47 PM

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What is the timeline on which outside door mirrors heads were used? AFAIK there's the round head offset, round head center mount, and the rectangular (not coast to coast) ones. Did they change at year end, or was it a change over when the old stock ran out?

60-66 04-04-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by plainred65 (Post 7905856)
What is the timeline on which outside door mirrors heads were used? AFAIK there's the round head offset, round head center mount, and the rectangular (not coast to coast) ones. Did they change at year end, or was it a change over when the old stock ran out?

1959 on back used a center stud like this one. NOS is the best way to figure this stuff out by part number and books. This one they don't have listed completely as its in the parts books till 1959 .
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122359424255...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Then for 1960-1963 they used a thicker mirror , this is an NOS 1960-1963 GMC mirror assembly with the cast 1960-1962 Arm . Its white for GMC , Chevy mirrors are black. Notice three screws around the stem.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j.../029we%203.jpg

Then 1964-1966 has this mirror , thinner design , only one screw and 2 rivets around the stem.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...20-%20Copy.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...20-%20Copy.jpg
The center stud came back in 1967 and up trucks. The Rectangular mirror was sold as an accessory to mount on the same arm as the round and was offered as a bigger mirror if the owner wanted. There's some controversy that some of the years I've posted on the round offsets snuck into other years. I'm stating what I've found from NOS parts and number applications and original trucks I've had or seen.

likaroc13 04-04-2017 10:19 AM

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Getting ready to put my '66 back on the road, & I believe we've decided to pull the 327 engine for some changes. While it's out, I'd prefer to change the color from orange to a more factory correct green. I'm curious what the current consensus is on the correct (I know there's no 100%) shade of green? Upon doing research here on the forum, I've read about the Alpine green being a bit too light & Ford green possibly being the closest. I also read about a Buick green possibly being a close match. Lastly, I saw where a NOS green paint was sprayed out for comparison, but even it was debated as to whether it needed tinting a bit. I'm not sure if that ever took place to get a better match or not. Any updated info on this subject is greatly appreciated!

plainred65 04-04-2017 11:10 AM

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Thanks for clearing up the mirror question for me 60-66, hoping I have the right one on my 65. I'll be checking when I get home.

vetnat 04-10-2017 12:57 AM

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Hi. Wondering what colour the back side of the parking light bezels in a 1961 GMC would be? I think the inside was some sort of cadmium plating? Is the outside the same? Or black? Or? Thanks.

jbgroby 04-10-2017 07:43 AM

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There are a light Galvanized color. I blasted mine and repainted with hi-temp aluminum.

Todd Ugine 06-15-2017 06:54 PM

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Hello All,

Does anyone have any formulation information for the acrylic primers for GM cars and trucks during the years 1965-1967? I have an old code or two that I'm interested in learning more about GM-3, and GM-44. I believe the first code is for an acrylic primer, and the second is for an actual paint.

Any and all information would be extremely helpful.

Todd

likaroc13 06-30-2017 11:56 PM

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Couple questions:

For the factory 327 engine air cleaner/breather, what sheen of black would be correct? Semi-gloss, gloss, satin?

Also, what kind of paint are you guys using for the exhaust manifolds? I assume cast iron gray would be correct?

shiftinggears 07-11-2017 10:56 PM

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1966 factory exhaust system question.

I have a stock 1966 short bed with an inline 6 250 and 3 speed manual trans. It came with the exhaust manifold but no exhaust system. There is also no flange, gasket, hangers or brackets. I have found and purchased a new system (front pipe, muffler and tail pipe). It however didn't include the rest of the parts or any installation instructions. Does anybody have any diagrams, photographs, etc. that would help me figure out what parts I still need and how the whole system should be installed? Thanks.
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sirJim 07-16-2017 02:24 PM

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Fun thing we found on the 62 burb, Wiring number.

Submariner616 10-03-2017 12:17 AM

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On the 1960 C10 Long bed stepside I am restoring, the interior has a dark gray dash with a silver gray trim, which is also the rest of the interior of the cab. Does anyone know if there is a paint code associated with these colors?

Short 3/4 10-18-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shiftinggears (Post 7988869)
1966 factory exhaust system question.

I have a stock 1966 short bed with an inline 6 250 and 3 speed manual trans. It came with the exhaust manifold but no exhaust system. There is also no flange, gasket, hangers or brackets. I have found and purchased a new system (front pipe, muffler and tail pipe). It however didn't include the rest of the parts or any installation instructions. Does anybody have any diagrams, photographs, etc. that would help me figure out what parts I still need and how the whole system should be installed? Thanks.
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I know this is an old post, but the 60-66 factory assembly manual has good exhaust info. You can get it from most of the usual vendors for our trucks

oem4me 10-19-2017 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sirJim (Post 7992098)
Fun thing we found on the 62 burb, Wiring number.

Cool! That label is rarely intact. It's a paper sticker meant for assembly ID, and not very resistant to engine washing or other abuse. Two of my trucks had that label in fine shape, but I failed to wrap one of them in clear tape before an engine wash, and it took a toll on the poor label. Doh!

Rich 5150 69 10-30-2017 12:01 PM

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A thread from another forum I am working on...this may or may not apply to our trucks but curiosity has gotten me to thinking about the applied torque values, for all those that have restored or original driveshafts one piece but we`ll extend it to two piece driveshafts if you guys would chime in on those that have a drive shaft that has the yokes offset by 20% here is the thread it applies to only the small block camaros, all the big blocks were in line... Current thread..

I have seen two examples where the yokes on each end of the center tube section of driveshafts from Norwood built 1969 Camaros were not "in line" with each other, but offset - one with respect to the other - by approximately 20 degrees.

One of these driveshafts was originally in my 69 RS coupe which I have owned since Nov 1991 (VIN# 124379N581767, 01C build date). The other driveshaft was from a 69 Camaro base coupe, 327, built around the 3rd week of November 68 (VIN# 124379N551248, engine code V1122FJ). Both cars are base V8's, my RS has a Powerglide, the other car had a 3 speed manual. The other car was being parted out back in March 1994, so I collected several items, including the 327 motor and the driveshaft - which I still have.

All other driveshafts that I can remember (other than these two) have the yokes "in line" (0 degree offset) from end to end.
The reason(s) that the "as built" offset doesn't seem right to me, in that fundamentally, a driveshaft is designed to cancel out the inherent variations in rotational (angular) velocity from one end of the driveshaft to the opposite end and change those variations in angular velocity to essentially constant velocity. How well the driveshaft does its job is a funciton of several items.

One key element is to ensure that the included angle between the transmission and the center tube is the same as the included angle between the center tube and the differential. If these angles are not the same (+/- tolerance), the resulting non uniform angular velocity between the driver and driven ends of the driveshaft can result in potentially very high inertial forces, resulting in vibration, and eventual damage.

In addition to maintaining the proper angular relationships, the other key element is to ensure that the yokes on each end of the center tube section are in line (0 degree offset) with respect to each other so that the center tube can articulate by the same angular amount, but in opposite directions, from one end to the other.

So here is the crux of my question. The two driveshafts that I referenced above clearly do not have the yokes in line with each other with 0 degree offset. They are offset by approximately 20 degrees. Consequently, it seems to me that it would be impossible to maintain the proper angular relationship between the transmission and differential during operation because the center tube cannot articulate properly.

Did Chevrolet actually design the driveshafts this way for 1st Gen Camaros? If so, why - no other car that I know of ever had offset driveshaft yokes. If Chevrolet did design the driveshaft this way, what was their logic? What was different in 1st Gen Camaros that would require the offset?

sirJim 11-12-2017 04:26 AM

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Seat tag found 2 of them on the front seat springs.
Anyone know the code for the last set of nrīs? 377 3039?

corvettejim1968 11-23-2017 11:11 AM

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can we talk about the correct rim color for 1965 c10. i see them white i see them black and i see them body color.

60-66 11-23-2017 11:58 AM

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Hi Jim , for Chevrolet there never was a white rim on a 10-20 or 30 series, white rims are GMC only. On a solid white or off white truck the rim was black whether it was a custom or not. Also should mention here that white custom trim trucks only had white between the custom side door and bed trim , you see lots of black and red painted inserts on them but this is NOT factory. Two tone trucks got the main body color painted rims. While one color or solid color trucks received black rims on Chevys.

GMC was completely different. For 1960-1961 There were three colors for the rims ,Crystal Green, Strata Blue and Olympic white , this all had to do with the main body color as to which wheel color you got.For 1962-1966 Im 90% sure GMC rims were white but for some reason I have seen a couple with black rims that I cannot verify. Still need a 1962 and 1966 GMC Data book to confirm some of the GMC facts.

corvettejim1968 11-23-2017 12:17 PM

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Very informative really appreciate the info

Submariner616 11-23-2017 12:49 PM

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Hello, I am doing a stock restoration of a '60 C10 and I don't know what to do with this steering column joint. There is a lot of old grease in there, there is no grease fitting, the boot is caved in, please see pictures. Any ideas?
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/p...ictureid=24242
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/p...ictureid=24243
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/p...ictureid=24244


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