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mud.man.rj 01-21-2012 11:59 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
Nice clean body to start with, I think a long box looks lower than a short box when lowered. On the 700r4 what do you have to do to get it to shift properly, a special harness or is it already built when you bought it with all the right components. I am not sure what to do on an install I have coming up on a 700r4 in a 72 Gm 2wd project.

westgl 01-22-2012 12:13 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
My 67' has a I6 250ci with a 3sp manual trans.

Yes it is a very clean truck, that was a one owner truck, previous owner babied it, And since it had a I6 250ci engine, 150h.p. it was not thrashed on.

My 67' Pickup is only 45 years old this year. My 58' Corvette is 54 years old this year.

I think that you need the correct trans mount/crossmember .

The 700r4 is a mech. trans like the turbo 350/400, except a 4speed with lower 1st gear and a 4 gear that provides a higher ratio overdrive gear.

I dont think that there are any electronics, Maybe a Reverse/back up switch.

No electronics until, you get into a 4L80E trans then there are computers.

Setup on cables, throttle, kickdown, shift cable, those all need to be setup properly.

There better not be this is my bug out vehicle, i still need a single point distributor, to setup and store on the shelf just in case.

VA72C10 01-22-2012 01:36 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
Nice looking project. The 700R4's are still different because of the kickdown cable you mentioned. If not adjusted properly it'll burn up the transmission in no time (I'm talking days)

mud.man.rj 01-22-2012 03:19 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
The truck I am working on has a 3spd also with a 400 small block so changing to an auto should only need crossmenber, but I know from one I did in the past that I needed to have it shift to 4th gear electrically, either with a toggle switch or by rewiring the trans solonoids internally which I did at the time but found out that only the earlier ones could be converted internally not the later ones. So I thought there may be some kind of harness you could purchase but haven't looked into it much yet as am just rebuilding the 400 right now then lowering it with spindles/spring cut and spring and c.notch to the rear first before I get back to the powertrain. Maybe someone will pipe in and help out on this site. Hoping. Thanks.

westgl 01-22-2012 10:55 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
Ill have to check on a harness, and the electronically shifted 4th gear.

I am not sure, ill focus on that when it is time to, I guess.

For now the Engine & Trans still needs to get pulled.

Then it off to the front suspension

westgl 01-22-2012 11:09 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
I would like to build a Intermittent wiper, Three speed controller, using two adjustable resistor's and a three position lighted switch.

It would be in normal speed in the off position.
Pos. #1 would be slower
Pos. #2 would be even Slower

The adjustable resisters would just reduce voltage to the windshield wiper motor, and that is adjustable to get it at the speed where you want it.

Then once set it gets mounted up under the dash.

Dingfodgy 01-22-2012 07:25 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by westgl (Post 5138446)
I would like to build a Intermittent wiper, Three speed controller, using two adjustable resistor's and a three position lighted switch.

It would be in normal speed in the off position.
Pos. #1 would be slower
Pos. #2 would be even Slower

The adjustable resisters would just reduce voltage to the windshield wiper motor, and that is adjustable to get it at the speed where you want it.

Then once set it gets mounted up under the dash.

So they would still be in constant motion- just at a slower speed? Sounds like a timed relay would be the gadget to get you true intermittent wipers. Or you could just spend about $80 and get a new switch with intermittent function built in....check out the link below.
http://newportwipers.com/optacc.php

westgl 01-22-2012 08:10 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
Thanks for that Link.

I did not no those were available, I would rather use something that works than to build something.

yes they would still be in motion only moving slower

I forgot to mention a 12Volt adjustable timer delay relay, that would be adjustable as well. That would give you the intermittent adjustment.

westgl 01-23-2012 11:36 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
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Here is my progress for today.

westgl 01-23-2012 11:38 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
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How this got out there I'll never know.

Look at that Single barrel Holley carb.

That Engine actually ran really good, just a little under powered

westgl 01-23-2012 11:40 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
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This was a busy day.

Look what showed up outside my shop today.

9 boxes of parts for the 67'

67c10rustbuket 01-24-2012 12:08 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
Its like christmas in january, gotta love the UPS guy. man you are working fast !

Dingfodgy 01-24-2012 12:24 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
Great work so far! How'd you like to come up the 5 a few hours and yank my motor and trans out too? ;)

westgl 01-24-2012 01:28 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
If anyone needs a 150h.p. three speed paper weight.

zicc1835 01-24-2012 02:23 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
I just sold one of those boat anchors :) ....very nice I will be watching and learning from your build I bought a unfinished project 72 Cheyenne original 402 with a rebuilt 700 r4 already installed by PO with a custom throttle valve set up installed I have all the paper work well problem is it has sat for a couple years until P O gave up and I just now have it road worthy and she won't shift so off to my buddy owns trans shop let u know how I make out there anyway good luck I will follow along love those 67s
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westgl 01-24-2012 09:09 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
67c10rustbuket, hey thanks, gotta like that big brown truck, I am spending a few hours a day.

Dingfodgy, :lol: I think I have enough to keep busy here

Hey zicc1835, Let me know how that trans works out, any idea who the original trans builder was.

I need to buy my 700r4 Trans. still, I have been looking at Phoenix Transmission Products.


I hope this will not be a hang up time wise.

I have some Centerline Rims coming, They are built to order and will take 3 weeks to build.

I just ordered them a couple of days ago, but the wheels are not as critical as the transmission is, as the wheels/tires can be put on at the very end.

I put a post asking who everyone liked as far as a Trans rebuilder for the 700r4, a few weeks ago,
No one replied.

I did not know if i was going to keep this post going or not, there are a couple people watching so I will keep spending the extra time to take pictures and post them.

westgl 01-24-2012 02:21 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
Just bought this Trans hope it's a Great Trans/Converter with absolutely NO problems.

Phoenix Transmission Products

I read about them in one of the truck magazine's, the article said how durable and well built their transmissions are, and they build their own converters, and that their converter's were also very robust, and that they were built different, to be very durable.

They said I should have it in Three weeks.

I dont think i have enough work to keep me busy for that long.

I may have to buy the American Auto Wire, Wire Harness, to keep me busy.

Trans No. & specs. for 700r4 Trans.

#PT700R4SS
Our street/strip version features over 40 performance and durability upgrades and modifications. These include: high load capacity sprags, high energy friction and band, increased pump volume and pressure, and more to provide the highest level of performance and economy possible. This is a great trans for Streetrods, Muscle Cars, and Sport Trucks whose owners crave the awesome acceleration and tire-spinning, wide open throttle shifts this trans is built for. This trans comes with our High Performance "Torque Max" torque converter with stall speed up to 2600 rpm. This trans is rated 450 horsepower and 500 lbs. of torque.
$1825.20

westgl 01-24-2012 02:28 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
In talking to Scott at Phoenix Transmissions,

he said all that is needed as far as power to the 700r4 trans is a 12V supply for the Lockup Converter, & a Good Ground.

He said the Ground could be a good quality, Battery Ground cable, From trans case to Frame.

Warranty: is 3year 50K miles, warranty,

and the Warranty does not start until the trans is mounted in the vehicle and running, and that can be down the road 1-3 years or more after the trans is received, just email the warranty card to them and warranty starts from that point on.

To me the BEST WARRANTY is the one you never have to use.

westgl 01-24-2012 02:38 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
I think I am going to use the:

1. Lokar floor Shifter, #FMS6700BB 16" lever Clear Anodised
2. Lokar Auto Dip stick tube, #TD-3700TM
3. Lokar Carb. Billet Bracket, #TCB-40DQ
4. Lokar Throttle Valve #KD-2700HT

Now where to find the BEST PRICES on LOKAR parts

mud.man.rj 01-25-2012 12:50 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
I'm watching and liking the whole project, sounds good on the trans and parts

westgl 01-25-2012 09:27 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
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OK what did I do today,

Not much, except for pulling the front suspension, and front Frame, cross bar, pulled the A-Arms, dis-assembled the A-Arms they are bare except for the Rubber bump Stop.

I was tired and called it quits for the day.

All the above parts were taken to the powder painter today along with the other parts from a couple days ago.

Painter has a 1 week turn around.

I turned the Painter loose on them, to paint them all Gloss Black.

You should have seen how much Grease was caked on the arms and all over all of the front end.

also sent the Front and Rear Bumper Mounting Brackets

westgl 01-25-2012 09:33 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
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Here is a shot of the front frame.

She's looking a little Naked.

Oh yea I sent the Radiator out to have it pressure and flow tested, came back as Like new, Radiator guy said it was not a very old, in fact he said it was a newer rad.

My 67' was a manual Trans yet PO swapped in a Radiator for a Auto trans., 3 row, that was nice of him.

But too bad it wasn't a 4-Row.

westgl 01-25-2012 11:51 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
Ok, I have been actually working on the truck since Last Friday the 20th.

Not quite a week yet, all seems to be moving right along.

I think i am ahead of the aggressive schedule that i set for myself.

At least the Powder painter is only about a week out.

Then i will be able to put the front Suspension back on.

While i am waiting for the Wheels (built to order), and the Trans (built to order)

I will start on tearing into the rear suspension.

I will also start on installing the one piece tinted windows, soon after the rear suspension is completed.

Problem is I am going to run out of stuff to do and have to wait at some point for stuff to be shipped to me.

American Autowire wiring harness, is having a sale, 12% off February 3-5, that may be a possibility.

westgl 01-27-2012 11:47 AM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
What is the correct Black for parts like the Inner Fenders, A-arms, Parts (Under the Hood & Suspension Parts) & Frame.

Is it a,

High Gloss Black, Or,

Medium Gloss Black.

westgl 01-27-2012 01:46 PM

Re: 67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
UPS says,

I have another 4 boxes (120lbs) on there ways to me.

OK so now were talking.

I have already received drop spindles, Front Rotors, Complete Front suspension rebuild kit, Front Sway bar 1-1/4" dia. w/hard bushings. Drop springs.

What else could it be?

We will soon find out


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