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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Doing a test fit of the Biederman fender....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2341.jpg Was going to do a little bit of touch up on the front weld seam, needs more shape.. The fender spans about 53" at the bottom, where it wouldn't fit in the wheeling machine sitting on the floor. We added a lift kit under the legs, except for one which needed to be open under the leg.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2346.jpg in process.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvsAkBLlG2o Needed to wrap the wire edge.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2351.jpg Note the genuine John Deere anvil... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2352.jpg The flange was hammered over using various hammers and dollies (anvils) with the final wrap tightened up with a pair of vise grips modified with smooth jaws... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2355.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2356.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2357.jpg |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Nice work Robert. I like the John Deere anvil. The owner must be really pleased.
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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Thanks, I hope so!
The rear flange for the Biederman fender is cut out of some 12 gauge steel and tacked in place.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2385.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2386.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2388.jpg This flange bolts to the front of the running board.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2389.jpg The front mounting flange is cut out of 12 gauge steel and tacked in place.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2391.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2392.jpg This flange bolts to the filler panel behind the front bumper. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2393.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2395.jpg With them tacked in place, we'll do one more test fit and then finish the welds. |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Test fit the Biederman front fender to insure we had no clearance issues..
Rear flange to running board: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2396.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2397.jpg Front flange to bumper filler panel: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2400.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2401.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2403.jpg Looks like we're ready to finish welding... |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Looks great ,cant wait to see more .
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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Thanks!
The flanges were TIG welded in place, welds dressed, and then worked to remove the remnants of the old filler panel. The old spot welds were removed using a cut off wheel in a die grinder. When the upper panel gets thin, the heat turns it blue. When you see shiny metal again, you have found the second layer, so stop grinding! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2411.jpg This video explains the process a bit better... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb49MgRPzvY Next to clean all the rust that was hiding between the layers. A tight squeeze! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2412.jpg The filler panel we fabricated was positioned, and drilled for some 1/8" cleco's. Then another test fit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evBQvi5dsnw |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Been away for a bit across the pond, finally back to some metal work.
Had a fenderless trailer showed up at the shop Wednesday night, needed some welding... Good time as any to try out the new clamps. Two held the fender nice and tight to the frame. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_3115.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_3116.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_3117.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_3119.jpg Last night we worked on the fender patch #2 for the Biederman truck, 16 gauge fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXjl...ature=youtu.be http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3123.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3124.jpg Missed the in process pictures, I'll try and do better next time.. |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Sweet build, love the fab work you have done :chevy:
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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
This evening we took the passenger fender over to John's so we could mock it up on the truck and locate/cleco it to the lower hood side..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3474.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3473.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3476.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3478.jpg The wing nut cleco's used in about four spots to hold things good and snug.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3480.jpg Back at the shop, we'll get this plug welded on Saturday.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3481.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3484.jpg |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
tried to make some headway on the Biederman. John is taking it to the truck show in Macungie PA so we're trying to get the fenders complete so he can bolt them on and answer questions all day about their bare finish..
With the lower hood side cleco'ed to the passenger fender using wing nut clecos to pull things up nice and tight, lets get some plug welds done to join all three parts together... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3501.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3502.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3510.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3515.jpg Passenger fender lapped seams then had SPI epoxy brushed in from both sides to seal in case he runs into rain. We he returns they'll be ready for media blasting and paint.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3525.jpg Next onto the Driver fender, the remainder of the flange from the old filler panel is removed, a cut off wheel is used for releasing the OEM spot welds.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3517.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3518.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3520.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3521.jpg Next, we had a rub issue where the fender was a bit close to the cab....note the flat area, as well as a rust through. So we'll just trim this out and replace.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3523.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3524.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3526.jpg |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Today I finished up the TIG welding on the rust repair...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3530.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3532.jpg This area has a recess so it doesn't rub the side of the cab... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3533.jpg Next to clamp the front repair section, the vise grips tend to rotate after clamped and allow the weld joint to open. So to fix the gravity issue, we broke out the painters tape.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3534.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3536.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3537.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3540.jpg 16 gauge sheet metal wiring, gotta love it! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3542.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3543.jpg Next time we'll get the filler panel added to the Driver's fender.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3546.jpg |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Love this build ,thanks for sharing with us here .
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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Thanks for your comments!
This evening's progress, the bolting flanges were cut out of 12 gauge steel, and tacked in place using the TIG. Then welded and dressed.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3547.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3548.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3549.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3551.jpg Next to trim the front of the fender, a laser is set up 13-3/4" above the table holding the fender. This is the differential we measured off the truck from the bumper filler panel down to the running board. all four corners on the table are checked to insure the laser is set correctly. Then the laser line is transposed to the fender and trimmed.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3553.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3555.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3554.jpg The height was adjusted by sliding the blocks forward/backward in the fender. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3556.jpg Front mounting flange TIG welded in place and welds dressed.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3560.jpg Filler panel fitted to the fender and plug welded... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3561.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3564.jpg Test fit onto the truck, aligned to the lower hood side and cleco'ed in place. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3566.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3568.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3570.jpg We'll get the lower hood side welded on tomorrow evening, holes drilled, and fenders bolted up to the truck. |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Tonight we got the lower hood side plug welded to the driver's fender, then the lapped seams were brushed with SPI epoxy primer from both sides to seal out the elements. John will be taking this to a couple shows with the fenders in bare metal, so we needed to seal those areas.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3572.jpg With the fenders all one piece again, we took them to John's shop for re-assembly. First order of business is to add some welting to the fender area adjacent to the cab's lower cowl area... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3573.jpg ..then bolted up the fenders and battery tray.. This should give John a head start on the finishing touches tomorrow before loading it up for the Macungie Truck show. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3577.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3578.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3579.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3580.jpg |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Very nice work .
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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Thanks!
John got the Biederman out into the sunshine Wednesday after a long hibernation, getting it ready to take to the truck show in Macungie PA. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3587.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3586.jpg Loaded up and ready to go.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3583.jpg Today's pictures from the show, the Biederman makes its debut. Still needs a bit more paint on the front end, but John said he's had a ton of interest in the truck and the bodywork 0 Guess I should have sent him up with business cards. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3589.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3590.jpg |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Stopped by John's shop today, he had dropped off the front fenders to his painter after the Macungie show for media blasting and a epoxy primer to protect them until we can get the hood resolved. Then he'll get all the new parts painted blue at one time...
Here's the newly installed fenders with an epoxy finish.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3994.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3996.jpg |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
That is absolutely amazing. I am awed by the skill some people have working with metal. I don't know whether to be inspired to try new things or discouraged that I have nowhere near that level of skill.
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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Very nice work .
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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Thanks for the comments guys! I'd say about ten years ago you wouldn't have seen me tackling these fenders. If this looks like something you want to do, there are metal shaping classes available in many parts of the world...
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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
Today we started fabricating the new hood for the Biederman truck. During restoration John had bought a replacement cab with less rust issues that was a couple years newer, and unfortunately slightly wider as well. Since the original hood did not sit down where the bead details aligned, we're going to fabricate a new one that will fit correctly.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Fm...=w1274-h955-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ie...=w1274-h955-no Doesn't look like these are going to fit either. Me and dominoes.. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zd...=w1274-h955-no Hood is removed and a paper pattern taken for starting point of the new one. Slight bit more material will be added for good measure.. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/X2...=w1274-h955-no pattern laid out on 16 gauge cold rolled steel. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...=w1274-h955-no A straight edge finds the start of the radius on either side, marked with tape, and measure to find the center of the radius. Then the radius center and widths get marked onto the new panel. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_W...x=w717-h955-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4G...h=w717-h955-no the panel was wheeled to add a slight bit of crown prior to switching to the go kart slick for adding the corner radius. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/X3...f=w717-h955-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Dx...=w1274-h955-no Both sides formed, ready for trimming.. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Uw...5=w717-h955-no Video version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBiwtrWioFs . |
Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
once again...amazing...
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Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
I’ll repeat, amazing!!
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