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Steeveedee 08-12-2018 10:36 PM

Re: Harmonic b
 
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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 8321209)
Good deal. Glad you got that solved.

LockDoc

Yup, that's the sound I was talking about. Right on!

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 08-13-2018 01:20 AM

Re: Harmonic b
 
I'm installing one myself soon. Here's an excellent video, this guy is real good, though he seems to have more faith in experience than torque wrenches;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BuijqjcUk


Not saying you didn't, but the bolt inserted into the crank has to bottom out. Otherwise you're tearing up threads as you tighten the balancer.

Grumpy old man 08-13-2018 07:50 AM

Re: Harmonic b
 
Here is an explanation of why you apply grease to the back of the crank seal , It's just a safety measure but if the spring does come off when your replacing the seal with the timing cover on the engine it eventually will end up in your oil pan and nobody wants pieces of spring steel getting sucked up into your oil pump . I've seen it happen . This is why I pull timing covers to replace crank seals .:chevy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOfOHMI6Wnc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MzHlqQFHcs

68ihscout 08-13-2018 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy old man (Post 8321382)
Here is an explanation of why you apply grease to the back of the crank seal , It's just a safety measure but if the spring does come off when your replacing the seal with the timing cover on the engine it eventually will end up in your oil pan and nobody wants pieces of spring steel getting sucked up into your oil pump . I've seen it happen . This is why I pull timing covers to replace crank seals .:chevy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOfOHMI6Wnc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MzHlqQFHcs

funny thing is ,that spring came flying off as soon as we took the cover off , and yes nobody wants pieces of steel flying around in there
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68ihscout 08-13-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402 (Post 8321299)
I'm installing one myself soon. Here's an excellent video, this guy is real good, though he seems to have more faith in experience than torque wrenches;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BuijqjcUk


Not saying you didn't, but the bolt inserted into the crank has to bottom out. Otherwise you're tearing up threads as you tighten the balancer.

👍🏽👍🏽
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68ihscout 08-13-2018 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 8321209)
Good deal. Glad you got that solved.

LockDoc

Thanks LockDoc
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68ihscout 08-24-2018 03:47 PM

Re: Harmonic b
 
Well folks got the truck started sounded good but now we have hemorrhage from the bottom of timing cover /oil pan meet ,would it be safe to say its the oil pan gasket ,i did replace the half moon one but i guess it did not seat correctly ,thanks again
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geezer#99 08-24-2018 04:30 PM

Re: Harmonic b
 
Did you use the right one?
There are two.
Different thicknesses.

mrein3 08-24-2018 05:04 PM

Re: Harmonic b
 
Back to your messed up threads in the snout of the crank.

Google "Bottoming Tap". You can usually cut a few more threads in there with one.

garyd1961 08-24-2018 09:56 PM

Re: Harmonic b
 
I've seen people drill out a crank with stripped threads and rethread it for a larger bolt, I believe it was a 3/4 bolt.

68ihscout 08-24-2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8329507)
Did you use the right one?
There are two.
Different thicknesses.

I used the one that came with the timing cover gasket which was the right one ,i did put them side to side and they were the same ,.
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geezer#99 08-24-2018 10:02 PM

Re: Harmonic b
 
Did you lower the pan when you put the timing cover back on?

68ihscout 08-24-2018 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mrein3 (Post 8329529)
Back to your messed up threads in the snout of the crank.

Google "Bottoming Tap". You can usually cut a few more threads in there with one.

I did run a 7/16 20 in there , the initial 1/4 inch threada were bad just deep wnough for the bolt to slip ,i got a longer bolt and cut it down a bit and it was able to grab enough to tighten ,its all good now .
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68ihscout 08-24-2018 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by garyd1961 (Post 8329690)
I've seen people drill out a crank with stripped threads and rethread it for a larger bolt, I believe it was a 3/4 bolt.

Its all good bow ,but if i have to take it off again ill have to go that route.
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68ihscout 08-25-2018 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8329695)
Did you lower the pan when you put the timing cover back on?

Oh oh ,i most certainly did not ,smh
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geezer#99 08-25-2018 08:44 AM

Re: Harmonic b
 
Oh, oh is right.
Likely knocked the gasket outta place.
There’s two ways to fix it.
One is drop the front of the pan about 1/2 inch so the timing cover gasket stays in place.
Two is leave the pan alone and modify the cover bottom channel.
Like this. Pic-in here and explanation.
https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engi...ng-the-oil-pan

68ihscout 08-25-2018 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8329844)
Oh, oh is right.
Likely knocked the gasket outta place.
There’s two ways to fix it.
One is drop the front of the pan about 1/2 inch so the timing cover gasket stays in place.
Two is leave the pan alone and modify the cover bottom channel.
Like this. Pic-in here and explanation.
https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engi...ng-the-oil-pan

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68ihscout 08-25-2018 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8329844)
Oh, oh is right.
Likely knocked the gasket outta place.
There’s two ways to fix it.
One is drop the front of the pan about 1/2 inch so the timing cover gasket stays in place.
Two is leave the pan alone and modify the cover bottom channel.
Like this. Pic-in here and explanation.
https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engi...ng-the-oil-pan

i got me in this mess , looks like ill just change the oil pan gasket and be done with it hell of a lot easier than taking timing cover off if it was the seal.

Thanks for the info and help..
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