Re: The Brown Turd
 

More pics! and congrats on paint...

Chris

Re: The Brown Turd
 

I just finished my first paint job last weekend also! I'm sure your orange peel will sand out. From what I gather on Orange peel, it happens from having the gun too far away, too little of air pressure, or putting it on too light. Seems the key is walking the super fine line of putting it on as heavy as you can without having it run. I really didn't want orange peel so I lathered my clear on pretty thick. I only got a few minor runs but virtually no orange peel! This is my finish straight off the gun!

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps0cwphowt.jpg

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/t...psmvov3jda.jpg


If you end up unsatisfied after you sand, you can always do a flow coat. Thats where you sand the whole thing down with something like 1000 grit or so and then put another couple wet coats if clear on.

If you are anything like me tho, a good part of the reason why you attempted your own paint job was to get some experience and learn how to paint! And again if your anything like me, you learned a TON and your next paint job will rival that of a pro! Congrats!

I defiantly got the orange peel look really bad. The lighting wasn't great and I rushed the last coat of clear(bad idea). When I paint the cab I might do it outside so I can see better and have room to move around.

The bed might need a good sanding and another coat once the truck goes back together.
Posted via Mobile Device

Re: The Brown Turd
 

I went and bough eight 4' fluorescent twin tube lights for my garage and was surprised about how little light that was... Another thing that surprised me was how quickly the clear fog made it about impossible to see through my safety glasses! Lucky I had a few sets and changed them between coats! The primer and color didn't do that. Just the clear. Anyway, I'm sure you can save that bed by sanding as long as you got enough on there and really, worst case, a couple more coats after sanding will make it perfect.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Thanks. Your other truck turned out perfect. I am bummed that it wasn't as good as I thought last night.
My paint booth was in the back of my grandpas steel building and the only light was from the open garage doors a few drop lights. It also didn't help that my googles would fog up and I was painting almost blind like you were saying. Hopefully the weather will stay nice so I can finish up the rest of the truck.

I think once it is all back together I will sand and put on the clear. That way I can match the panels so some don't shine more than others

Re: The Brown Turd
 

If you don't mind can you tell me your setup, because yours turned out beautifully and I am still sanding out orange peel. Things like psi, fan height, material knob adjustment, gun tip size, ect.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

I'll help in any way I can! Just remember, I'm no expert.

As I recall I was averaging 28psi. It fluctuated a lot tho! I was constantly turning it up and down as the pressure in the compressor built and dropped. But when it was at a constant 28 I was good to go. The fan I ran "90%". Basically I wound it all the way out and then back in just until I could see it started to close up. On my gun full fan was only like 2 turns out or something like that anyway. As I recall I think I was 3 turns out on the fluid. And I was using a 1.3 tip. The key to me is definitely allowing yourself to put it on heavier than you think you should, all while trying to avoid runs.

It might sound stupid but one thing that helped me beyond measure was watching a guys videos on YouTube called the gunman. More specifically his gunman raw channel. It's mostly just raw footage on a helmet mounted go pro and you can watch him as he lays down clear that turns into sheets of glass. After studying his videos and taking mental snapshots of his rate of application in conjunction with his other how to videos where he actually explains his techniques was probably one of the biggest factors in me getting food results for a first timer.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

y5mgisi, thanks for the reply. I have a lot of sanding to do before I can paint. I had to start with 600 just to get it relatively smooth the switched to 1000. My problem is I have no idea how to tell if I burnt through to base, I think I am still good. Also I will watch some more videos. for some reason I tend not to enough research on something until after I mess it up, but hey, that's part of the process I guess.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

The wheels finally got finished

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Thanks. The "Gunman" on youtube was actually very helpful in explaining what to and what not to do. I have another question for you y5mgisi. Did you use a high solids clear and did you use and reducer?

Re: The Brown Turd
 

I believe it is high solids and no I did not use reducer. The clear I used was from southern polyurethane. It was also easy because it's a 1:1 mix ratio!

Re: The Brown Turd
 

I did get my cab painted a few weeks ago. No dry spray or orange peel like the bed. Weather here in too cold to paint. I will have to wait till spring to paint the rest of the panels (bummer). At least by then I will have ALL of the body work done.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

This winter I would like to finish the body work and rebuild my NP205. Can you replace the rear pinion seal in the differential without taking everything apart? I though while my driveshaft is dropped I might as well replace it since it is a little leaky.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Yes, there are a few tutorials around here.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Its been a while so but, I do have some good news. I cut a deal with the body/collision shop next door. He will let me use his booth and advise me while I paint in exchange for some help around the shop. Also, our horseshoer, who has a lot of experience with building his own cars, is going to help me finish up my body work. Hopefully with my dad and a helper or two we can finish it this weekend. Then I can work on getting it painted, registered, and plated (found some form the correct era in our barn).

I am really itching to get I back together before my senior year is over. Its been in pieces for 2 years and sat for 2 before that.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Got tires mounted on wheels

Re: The Brown Turd
 

That is one beautiful turd. Can't believe I just said that.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Good stuff

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Another one saved! Not only saved, but coming together well and looking great. I hope you can get it done in time to use it for your last year.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Its been a while but, I have been busting out the final body work and finish sanding. Last weekend I was able to get to the paint booth and get paint down.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Color. A little orange peeled but i am hoping after a cut and buff it will be flat and shinny.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Nice!

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Love the color! Great job on the bodywork and paint.

Ray

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Thanks guy. I am very happy with how all of my body work turned out. It actually came out straight. I love the bronze especially since it was a one year only color, available only in 70. It is called "dark bronze".

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Love colors like this that have a split personality. In the shade they look like a dark dark brown. And in the sun they look like a root beer brown or something like that.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Its been while since my last post about my truck. I will try to get more pictures of what I have done to the truck since we painted it in the summer of 2016. Its been slow going since starting at the university in fall 2016, working full time in the summer and half time during school doesn't leave much time for the truck. Trust me, I haven't lost interest. I've been daydreaming about what my next project for it will be since my dad brought the "Brown Turd" home 7 years ago. I always try to do something on the weekends if I finish all of my work.

I did make a major break through exactly a year ago on the 20th and got the truck to pass smog (on the 3rd attempt), then got the Turd registered and plated. Found some old plates stashed away with the first sticker being from 1971! They are so cool especially since they are period correct and the #s and letters correspond to the county and area I live in.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Wow, very nice work on the turd! It isn't a turd anymore. That color looks great! It's really awesome to see another young man interested in these trucks. It's also cool to see you weren't afraid to get right in there and to metal work, and body work. A big congrats to you!

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Thanks. The welding was mostly my dad, but I did do some. Spent many 10-12 hour days pounding out dents with a hammer and dolly and lots of bondo sanding then picking it out and redoing it.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

I was reading through my old post and I never realized how confusing and out order my post are. What ended up happened was I attempted painting the truck myself and it didn't turn out right. The color was wrong too (expensive mishap). I went and got the new paint from a different place and our horseshoer, Ira, offered to help me paint it for real after the other paint guy fell through. Luckily, Ira had some hookups. So, I sanded it all off and ended up doing a bunch more body work. Some of the stuff I posted were things I had planned to do but never did, like the transfer case rebuild.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

I like what you have done and the work that you put in while in high school. Do you have any current pictures?

Dwight

Re: The Brown Turd
 

When the Turd got back home I started in the cab and put down acoustic tar stuff from summit and then some sound deadener with heat sheild from a local fabric store. They sold it in bulk for $20 a square yard. These trucks only need a yard and a half to cover the floor if anyone was wondering. This stuff was almost 1/2'' thick.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

pics

Re: The Brown Turd
 

sorry not sure why all of my pictures are sideways

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Then I put the new wheels on and painted the wheel wells black. also the front fenders and grill went on. The panel adjustments took forever and never lined up great but its good enough.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Looks awesome! You are going to enjoy that thoroughly.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

First round of cutting and buffing with Ira's help. Yes, it was cold playing in the water wet sanding at 20 degrees.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

It's looking very nice! You should be proud!

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Who said you can’t polish a turd? Looks great.

Re: The Brown Turd
 

Nice truck it's looking great, no turds no mo!

Re: The Brown Turd
 

After many hours of cutting and buffing, the Turd was becoming more and more polished. You can now see your reflection almost clearly. Much better compared to the heavy orange peel it had from paint.