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derotoreut 05-30-2015 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7191573)
I am interested to know what kinda drop the frame has?

I sent them a lot of pictures to work with. They said no problem. It should be set up close to 4.5/6 to 5/7. It will be interesting to see how it works out. I'm nervous and excited to see the final stance. Since I'm not bagging it, I'm limited to how they set it up. It is, what it is. Keeping my fingers crossed.

swamp rat 05-30-2015 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by derotoreut (Post 7191946)
I sent them a lot of pictures to work with. They said no problem. It should be set up close to 4.5/6 to 5/7. It will be interesting to see how it works out. I'm nervous and excited to see the final stance. Since I'm not bagging it, I'm limited to how they set it up. It is, what it is. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Yea i'm not too keen on bags myself, part of what is making this build interesting for me.

derotoreut 08-23-2015 09:42 PM

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I know it's been a little while, but I seemed to have a snafu with my chassis. When laying out the bed, it turned out that rear kick up over the axle was too high causing interference with the location of the bed wood. You can see by the pictures that the wood floor would interfere with the frame.

derotoreut 08-23-2015 09:47 PM

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More pictures of the interference between the bed wood and frame.

derotoreut 08-23-2015 09:54 PM

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After discussing this with Justin at Scott's Hotrods, they decided to build me a totally new chassis. They found that the kick up over the rear end was off, and would be too hard to modify it. Since then they built the new chassis and I now have it. I'm beginning my new layout of the bed, cab and front clip. More pictures and details forthcoming.

Xeen 08-23-2015 10:34 PM

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At least they owned the mistake and made it right.
How long did you have to put the build on hold?

swamp rat 08-23-2015 10:39 PM

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Yep, glad they backed up their product!

Hart_Rod 10-21-2015 08:33 AM

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Looking forward to seeing more your project.

derotoreut 06-02-2016 10:53 PM

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Sorry I've been slacking on my updates. The new chassis was completed and ready for pickup. I picked it up at the terminal. Once home I was able to get cab set up on it. Unfortunately the new chassis build set me back by more than half a year.

derotoreut 06-02-2016 11:00 PM

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Worked on cab and bed layout to make sure no interference problems this time. So far so good. I'm installing a wood bed on this build, so I wanted to make sure there was no problem with any of the new cross sills.

derotoreut 06-04-2016 11:12 PM

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Very excited about this delivery. Brand new GM Performance LS3 6.2L with Hot Cam and 4L70E transmission. 480 HP / 475 ft-lb torque. Gonna be fun!!! :metal:

swamp rat 06-05-2016 01:26 AM

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Thanks for the update! was wondering about this build.

whitels1 06-05-2016 02:12 AM

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Awesome man, can't wait to see more!

GR8-68 06-05-2016 07:15 AM

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This is going to be one sweet ride :metal:

derotoreut 06-07-2016 09:21 PM

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Decided to do some engine test fitting on the Scott's chassis. Bolted up the 4L70E to the LS3 to put it on the chassis. The LS motor mounts from Scott's are pretty slick. The only problem was the LS oil pan interfered with the cross member. Going to use a Holley oil pan.

Dustmaker65 06-08-2016 11:00 AM

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I really like that chassis! Can't wait to see it going together!

trkfrk 06-08-2016 04:14 PM

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Coming along nice! That LS3 looks great in your chassis.

derotoreut 06-08-2016 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trkfrk (Post 7618974)
Coming along nice! That LS3 looks great in your chassis.

Thanks Mark. Your build has been a big inspiration for me. Thanks for putting it together.

derotoreut 06-18-2016 09:56 PM

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So I bought the Holley 302-1 oil pan for LS retrofit applications. It is a really nice pan. The only problem was I found some porosity in the casting around the oil filter area. I contacted Holley and sent them some pictures. They thought it would be fine to use, but wanted to be safe and have me return it anyway. I decided not to take the chance and return it for another one.

boynton 06-18-2016 11:59 PM

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good eye and good call on the oil pan. it looks like it was a bad pour. you never know where else it is weak/compromised. looking great otherwise.

Bennett68C10 06-19-2016 09:03 AM

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Really nice looking project Dan! Love the new frame and drivetrain :metal:

derotoreut 06-19-2016 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by boynton (Post 7628993)
good eye and good call on the oil pan. it looks like it was a bad pour. you never know where else it is weak/compromised. looking great otherwise.

Thanks. I agree on the bad pour. Thanks for the complement.

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Originally Posted by Bennett68C10 (Post 7629145)
Really nice looking project Dan! Love the new frame and drivetrain :metal:

Thanks Keith.

derotoreut 06-26-2016 09:45 PM

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I received the new Holley 302-1 oil pan to replace the one that had porosity around the oil filter area. This one looks much better. Did the install, which was pretty easy and straightforward. Good thing for the engine stand.


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I thought there might be some modifications required to the windage tray, but there weren't any needed.


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The install went pretty good.


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Test fit on the chassis will be coming up soon.

derotoreut 06-29-2016 08:53 PM

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With the new Holley 302-1 oil pan installed, I wanted to do a test fit with my LS3 and 4L70E.

Here is the LS3 with the new Holley pan installed. Pay no attention to that orange thing of mine in the background. ;)
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The Scott's LS motor mounts were installed on the block.
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Chassis is ready for test fitting.
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Engine and transmission fit on the chassis like a glove!
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derotoreut 06-29-2016 08:59 PM

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Here are some close up pictures of the Scott's custom LS motor mounts installed on the engine and in the chassis.
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No clearance problem now with the chassis crossmember.
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boynton 06-29-2016 09:25 PM

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looking great. I know you have a long road ahead but the small victories are always nice along the way. Also I couldn't ignore the orange thing in the background. it's too nice.

derotoreut 06-29-2016 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by boynton (Post 7639283)
looking great. I know you have a long road ahead but the small victories are always nice along the way. Also I couldn't ignore the orange thing in the background. it's too nice.

Yes, there's definitely a long road ahead. Hopefully I can stay positive with the build. Thanks for the words of encouragement.

derotoreut 07-15-2016 09:33 PM

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Well I ran into another snag with my oil pan. I decided to install the rack and pinion to be sure there was enough clearance. And guess what? The oil pan hit on the rack. Time to back pedal a bit.

swamp rat 07-18-2016 03:39 AM

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Humm, did Scott's recommend that particular rack and pinion?

derotoreut 07-18-2016 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7656820)
Humm, did Scott's recommend that particular rack and pinion?

Mike, Scott's did recommend that particular rack and pinion. That's what shipped with my chassis. I'm now finding out that they used a factory Corvette oil pan on their LS3 build. Apparently the Corvette pan is more shallow at the front end. Here is a picture from Scott's Hot Rod of the oil pan they used. One step forward then one backward. Oh well.

derotoreut 07-24-2016 07:56 PM

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Since the Holley 302-1 oil pan hits on my rack and pinion I'm going to swap it out for the 302-2 pan. The 302-2 oil pan was designed mainly for LS swaps in Gen-1 F & X-body cars like Camaro, Firebird and Nova. They say its also used on other car and truck LS swaps. Hoping it should work OK

derotoreut 08-09-2016 09:44 PM

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I went ahead and did the swap to the Holley 302-2 oil pan. I am very pleased in how it turned out.

Here is the engine with the oil pan removed and full windage tray still installed.
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Removed the windage tray.
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I had to either modify the existing windage tray or purchase the GM one. I decided to buy the GM tray already modified.
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Once the new pan was installed I had plenty of room between the rack and pinion and the oil pan.
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You can see there is plenty of clearance between the 302-2 oil pan and the cross member as well as the rack and pinion.
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Bennett68C10 03-17-2017 08:16 AM

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Any updates, how is the build going?

meenaggie 03-17-2017 12:35 PM

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Good to see someone posting what actually happens on these type of custom builds … parts rarely just bolt on and the lack of instructions with many of these custom setups leaves the end user to figure things out on their own. Nice build and keep up the persistence!

derotoreut 03-17-2017 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bennett68C10 (Post 7888915)
Any updates, how is the build going?

Hey Keith, I'll get some updates on here soon. I've been busy with work and family. I haven't given up on the build. I'll keep you posted.

derotoreut 03-17-2017 10:37 PM

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I bought a Gen IV DBW throttle bracket from fellow member Rob (Hart_Rod). I did some layout with the pedal bracket and found out that it wouldn't line up with the mounting holes in my firewall.

Here is my stock pedal installed in the cab
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You can see Rob's DBW bracket on the left, and my throttle assembly on the right. There is no way that the bracket will mount to my cab since the holes don't match.
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Neither of us had any idea why it didn't line up. Rob says that the dimensions of my pedal are the same as the ones on 73-87 trucks. I have no idea why. My truck is an original 71, built in California and spent it's life in Arizona. If any one has any ideas or information, I'd love to hear.

Since I'm going with a shaved firewall, I don't really need the mounting holes any way. I just needed to find the best location for the bracket. I took turns installing the bracket in various locations using only one bolt (since that's all I could install at one time). Each time I took measurements, comparing it the the stock pedal measurements. Once I found the best location, I installed the bolt and tack welded the bracket in place.

This was the best location for the DBW bracket with the 2005+ Corvette pedal installed.
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MySons68C20 02-18-2019 12:02 PM

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How is this project coming along?

derotoreut 02-20-2019 10:27 PM

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I'm sorry guys. I haven't been too diligent with keeping up on my build. It is still going forward, but on a slower pace then anticipated. Sometimes real life gets in the way and so do life's priorities.

In the meantime I decided to add onto my 40 x 40 workshop. My wife said we can't leave the family to go south or west during the Buffalo winters. I said then I needed something to do in the winter, so I added onto my workshop. She agreed (she's a saint). Hopefully I don't bore you by getting off track here, but I'm super proud of what I accomplished with the shop and it's a great winter hideaway. I just finished it.

Here was my original 40'x40' building. I decided to add onto the front of it.
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I decided to add a 46' wide x 48' deep x 14' ceiling addition.
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Here is the addition onto the front of my original workshop.
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derotoreut 02-20-2019 10:38 PM

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Once I closed in the building I insulated the ceiling with blown in fiberglass R48.
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I tore out the old approach to the original building.
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While down at the fall Hershey car show I detoured and picked up some reclaimed XPS insulation. I planned to install in-floor radiant heat and I wanted to use the insulation under the concrete. It was 4" thick, 400 psi rated. Perfect for my project.
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I put down a 15 mil vapor barrier as I went along, sealing all the edges.
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Once the vapor barrier and insulation was down, I laid down wire mesh to attach the pex tubing to.
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derotoreut 02-20-2019 10:44 PM

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The pex tubing was laid out over the wire mesh and zip tied.
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I marked out a spot where my 2-post lift would go.
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All the tubing runs and domestic water was brought to a central location. This is where I would install the condensing boiler.
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Then came the concrete pour!
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