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joedoh 09-13-2018 12:59 AM

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I like the later radio idea! truck is looking great

Volfandt 09-13-2018 09:28 AM

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I like lower mounted radio too.
You know, a radio was an after thought back in the day.
Same for a heater and horn too.

I knew the original owner of my 49 3100. According to the paperwork when he bought it, he opted for the dealer add-on horn and by pass oil filter but not the heater and radio.
His son told me he added the heater that 1st winter (got the Arvin heater kit from the dealer) but didn't think a radio was necessary for a farm truck.

Sorry for the side bar.
Enjoying your build.

28TudorAZ 09-21-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Volfandt (Post 8343495)
I like lower mounted radio too.
You know, a radio was an after thought back in the day.
Same for a heater and horn too.

I knew the original owner of my 49 3100. According to the paperwork when he bought it, he opted for the dealer add-on horn and by pass oil filter but not the heater and radio.
His son told me he added the heater that 1st winter (got the Arvin heater kit from the dealer) but didn't think a radio was necessary for a farm truck.

Sorry for the side bar.
Enjoying your build.

Very cool to know. I would have guessed most people didn't care about a radio at that time so Chevy just said lets not redesign everything since know we are changing in 55 and just add an extra step of punching a hole at the top. I have to pick up some round vents at socal tomorrow so hopefully I can finish the dash. This truck is going to be a driver so it has to have A/C in AZ.

mikebte 09-21-2018 03:54 PM

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Great thinking on the radio, should turn out nice.
I second the AC in AZ.

28TudorAZ 09-21-2018 04:40 PM

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Great thinking on the radio, should turn out nice.
I second the AC in AZ.


Almost done with the dash. Just need to finish the body filler.

28TudorAZ 09-26-2018 07:09 PM

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Set the bed on there so I could get the running boards lined up.

dsraven 09-26-2018 09:16 PM

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ya, umm. your engine is missing! is that why the hole in the floor? flintstones foot power?...
kidding
looks good. coming along nicely. do you plan on spacers for the front wheels or you have the look you like?

28TudorAZ 09-26-2018 10:55 PM

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Picked up some craigslist wheels. I am thinking 3" spaces all around.

28TudorAZ 10-03-2018 10:20 PM

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More progress. I got the running boards mounted, the bed mounts welded in place and everything lined up. I also ordered the front end rebuild kit, transmission tunnel, wheels spacers, drops spindles, and lug nuts. Next step is to rebuild the front end, take the cab off, finish welding the cab mounts, and transmission mounts. The exhaust ended up coming out in the right place. I can't wait to bolt stuff on for the final time.

joedoh 10-04-2018 11:18 PM

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looking super great man

28TudorAZ 10-05-2018 12:15 AM

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looking super great man

Thanks. I plan on hitting some junkyards tomorrow. I really want to keep moving on this thing. I did get the transmission tunnel today. Wow summit fast shipping.

28TudorAZ 10-07-2018 06:55 PM

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Built the transmission mount today.

28TudorAZ 10-10-2018 11:12 PM

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Finished welding up all the cab mounts and transmission mount and painted the frame. Next is the front end rebuild and 2 "dropped spindles. Also still need to weld up some holes in the cab before I put it back on.

8man 10-11-2018 10:05 AM

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Man you are making time. Good work.

28TudorAZ 10-13-2018 03:17 PM

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Man you are making time. Good work.


I'm trying. :metal: Finished one side of the rebuilding the front end. I forgot how much of a pain in the @ss they could be. That thing fought me the whole way. I am hoping the other side doesn't put up such a good fight.

joedoh 10-13-2018 03:56 PM

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HA yes, sometimes replacing suspension can be a super pain, I had to cut the lowers out of mine :lol:

looking great!

GreasyLikeaBurger 10-13-2018 10:49 PM

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be careful with spacers that long, it will add additional stress to the wheel bearings.

28TudorAZ 10-16-2018 01:53 AM

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be careful with spacers that long, it will add additional stress to the wheel bearings.

Are you speaking from experience?

MiraclePieCo 10-16-2018 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GreasyLikeaBurger (Post 8363842)
be careful with spacers that long, it will add additional stress to the wheel bearings.

I've heard that before too, but I've run spacers on various vehicles since the 1970s and never had a problem. They still make me concerned. Has anyone had a bearing failure they could prove was attributed to spacers?

28TudorAZ 10-16-2018 12:41 PM

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I've heard that before too, but I've run spacers on various vehicles since the 1970s and never had a problem. They still make me concerned. Has anyone had a bearing failure they could prove was attributed to spacers?


Exactly. Everyone has heard. I researched it quite a bit and never found anyone who actually had the issue. Did find a video explaining why it changes the gravity a little but said it was not enough to actually cause any issues. My guess would be guys with big trucks with big heavy tires have problems with spacers and bearings. There are arguments that go both ways. I really didn't want to spend $1000 for some custom A-arms. Maybe down the road if I have issues but I suspect I will not.

dsraven 10-16-2018 03:36 PM

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have you done a "tire on and suspension at full compression" turning test to ensure the rubber doesn't tear a fender off when turned all the way and the suspension bottoms? with the spacers the tires do more of a sweep during a turn so they may get closer to the wheel openings than you may realize. it would suck to find that out too late.
I am sure you have done the research and found the video on scrub radius, tire size and wheel offset issues and steering included angle etc. your truck, do it like you want. as long as it is safe to drive on the same roads as the rest of us and our kids.

28TudorAZ 10-16-2018 04:55 PM

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have you done a "tire on and suspension at full compression" turning test to ensure the rubber doesn't tear a fender off when turned all the way and the suspension bottoms? with the spacers the tires do more of a sweep during a turn so they may get closer to the wheel openings than you may realize.

Considering I just put them on there 3 days ago and the cab and front end are still off what do you think? I guess I will see when it actually runs and drives and adjust accordingly.

dsraven 10-16-2018 05:58 PM

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oh hey, sorry man.
bye bye

MiraclePieCo 10-17-2018 03:28 AM

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Exactly. Everyone has heard. I researched it quite a bit and never found anyone who actually had the issue.

Awesome, lol - opinions are plentiful, experience is rare!

mikebte 10-17-2018 11:08 AM

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Exactly. Everyone has heard. I researched it quite a bit and never found anyone who actually had the issue..

Crazy the stuff people make up. Porsche used wheel spacers from the factory on the 928 and it would run 170MPH. I think if used correctly you will have no issues. Correctly being the key word.

I remember 10 years ago I was telling people how an electric fan was better than a mechanical fan. You would think I was taking ways peoples kids, they would tell me how wrong I was and it was a phase. Now look. Most people speak hear say and not facts.

Keep up the good work, enjoying you build

Jesse Z 10-18-2018 04:15 AM

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Crazy the stuff people make up. Porsche used wheel spacers from the factory on the 928 and it would run 170MPH.
I remember 10 years ago I was telling people how an electric fan was better than a mechanical fan. You would think I was taking ways peoples kids, they would tell me how wrong I was and it was a phase. Now look. Most people speak hear say and not facts.


Their opinions are typically given with dire warnings about you killing busloads of orphans and not being on the same highway with their family, lol!

Enough digression: back to the build thread please!

GreasyLikeaBurger 10-20-2018 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mikebte (Post 8366257)
Crazy the stuff people make up. Porsche used wheel spacers from the factory on the 928 and it would run 170MPH. I think if used correctly you will have no issues. Correctly being the key word.

I remember 10 years ago I was telling people how an electric fan was better than a mechanical fan. You would think I was taking ways peoples kids, they would tell me how wrong I was and it was a phase. Now look. Most people speak hear say and not facts.

Keep up the good work, enjoying you build

Well I actually work for Porsche as a tech, 10-15mm spacers are nothing to bump out a wheel for fitment. But when you increase that to 3+inches, you are changing the geometry of the front end.

28TudorAZ 10-23-2018 12:51 AM

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So I got the cab back on over the weekend and welded up the firewall holes and bolted it up. Also today I had the day off and put the 2" lowering blocks on the back axle and welded up a bunch of holes on the inside and old fuel filler hole. I also ordered a steering column, steering shaft, steering joints, transmission cooler, a 16 inch fan and a pedal assembly today. This should keep me busy for a while. Not that I don't have anything to do but I like to skip around so I don't get frustrated or bored. Plus I can't put the front end back on till all of this is on there.

28TudorAZ 10-25-2018 07:34 PM

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Finally got the dash ready for paint.

joedoh 10-25-2018 07:48 PM

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looks great!

28TudorAZ 10-28-2018 12:50 AM

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Built the brackets for the radiator support, fan brackets and mounted the transmission cooler today.

54ChevyLs 11-03-2018 06:43 AM

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Your doing some excellent work! Keep it up!

28TudorAZ 11-03-2018 09:44 PM

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Your doing some excellent work! Keep it up!

Thanks. Got the steering column mount made up.

8man 11-04-2018 08:36 AM

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Nice looking dash, good work on the vents.

I got the same steering column installed with my buddy in the 48.

28TudorAZ 11-04-2018 05:32 PM

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Got the power booster and pedal assembly put in. If you don't use the s10 pedal setup you can cut the end of the brake rod and tap it to use with aftermarket pedal assembly.

mikebte 11-04-2018 10:00 PM

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Got the power booster and pedal assembly put in. If you don't use the s10 pedal setup you can cut the end of the brake rod and tap it to use with aftermarket pedal assembly.

That's looking great! Keep it up

28TudorAZ 11-06-2018 07:53 PM

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That's looking great! Keep it up


Thanks. Got the brake lines cut and took them to a shop last night and got them crimped. Bolted them on late last night. Put some fluid in and we have a pedal. Still need to properly bleed. Probably the first time in 25 years the truck had working brakes.

joedoh 11-06-2018 07:59 PM

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working brakes are a good thing! great progress!

mikebte 11-07-2018 12:20 AM

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Very nice, hope you make it down to Tucson in that rig. I would love to have a look once it's running.

28TudorAZ 11-07-2018 06:41 PM

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Ok picked this up at a junkyard. I think I need another inch. Any thoughts? The yoke seems pretty short.


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