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Looking very good! People parking intentionally bump into your car?

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With all the work you've done I would stick with the chrome bumpers. They look much better than painted. Of course this my opinion which sometimes isn't the most popular opinion. ..lol

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The Suburban's looking good. That FC Jeep is cool

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I'm digging it too. I've never been up close to one but the more I look at that one the more I like it. It's in for a full restoration and conversion to diesel power. Should be really cool. Thanks for the good word on the WMD.

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I have been shopping locally at Dan's Classic Chevrolet since 1989. At one point I had two painted, ready to install rear fenders for a 1951 GMC stolen. We called around town asking people to keep a eye out for them. Several hours later Dan's called to say 2 guys were in their store trying to sell the fenders. Long story short, we got the fenders back, but the perps got away. After this long we have a relationship and I would never get that from an online order house.

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Maybe I missed it.... Which gaskets are you having trouble finding? The ones I circled in this picture?

LockDoc

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Yes those are the ones.

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Did you get your 67 /68 plug issue worked out? I have a 67 parts truck sitting i can check to see if the plugs are any good

Thanks for the help with the stuck glass on my thread. Looking at your write up it look like mine is just stuck as well

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I'm pretty sure I have the plug issue solved. Just waiting for a friend to get some 67 housings from storage. Thanks for the offer and who knows I may come asking before it is all done.

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I may have a new set of those. When I did my '69 Suburban they said they were going to be discontinued so I ordered 2 sets. I will have to look in the morning to see if I still have them.

LockDoc

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Wow! That would be great. My body man will be happy too! :lol: Precision Rubber is supposed to be remaking the mould for them, but no word on when it would be ready.

P.S. That's a nice looking Burb in the picture

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I complained to GMC Pauls about the fitment of those seals and sent them pictures of what was wrong and I think they decided to remake them because of that. They also redid the door opening strips, twice, because I said the first set didn't fit right at all, then I critiqued the second set. They wanted to send me a third set, but I was busy.

IMO GMC Pauls is "online mail order", but I think they are a small local business to someone. I am glad I went with them because they worked with Precision to get us better fitting parts. There is no one local to me that I know of that sells what I need, much less the customer service that I have gotten from them.

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I finally found them. They are Precision brand. I don't know what the problem is that people are having with them. I used a set of these on my '69 Suburban and had no problem with them.


I sold the Blue/White '69 Suburban last Spring. I miss it.

LockDoc

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What was the problem you had with the fixed 1/4 window seals? As mentioned above I used the Precisions on my '69 Suburban with no issues....

LockDoc

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Wow, the suburban is looking great! I really like that green!

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(Quote) What was the problem you had with the fixed 1/4 window seals? As mentioned above I used the Precisions on my '69 Suburban with no issues....

LockDoc

Here is my text from post 42 explaining the issue. I am unable to copy the drawing to this post so you'll have to scroll back. For some reason they had to remake the mould and it didn't get a check for proper fit, and got made then shipped out. I have heard of 2 other people here locally that received bad ones too.



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Thanks a lot. I need to get a picture of it in the sun so the metallic will pop for the camera. But it has a long way to go before it's anywhere as nice as your 72.

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OK, I have a couple of Rear 3rd doors and I will take one apart and try the gaskets I have on it. The set I have left appear to be like the Precision you have pictured so maybe I received gasket sets from 2 different manufacturing runs. It may be a day or two before I get to it....

LockDoc

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At your convenience. No rush here. It's going to be really wet here for a week or so and I will have other things to attend to. Enjoy your weekend.

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The bottom length of the seal is too short, so when you put it on the window it pulls the bottom of the seal down into the channel. I sent pictures to GMC Pauls and I think Precision recognized that the seal is not correct, but I haven't heard back about it.

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That may have been the problem with the old mould I don't know. But that wasn't the issue with the set I received. Dan's Classic had my set and one other in the store so I took my old one and the glass down and we examined the differences, I made some notes, (see post 42) and then I had PM's and phone conversations with Derrek at Precision. Precision knows they have a problem and told me they were going stop shipping and remake the mould.

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The fixed window seal saga continues. :waah: I spoke to Precision again this morning and they sent a preproduction set out for beta testing and found the sizing was not right. This means a restart on the process and no new seals will be available for 4-5 months. So I'm on the hunt locally for a usable seal. With 4 leads at present and one seal I can reuse I should get this behind me soon. (Crossed fingers)

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I was able to save the one that you helped me figure out removal on. If the 4th door gasket will work for you you can have it. I have not torn down the 3rd door yet so don't know if I will be able to save that one yet. The one I did get removed is soft and flexible.

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Richard2717 that would be great! The one I have is soft on three sides but the bottom is pretty crusty. I have a line on another one that I will go check out tomorrow, and with that one and yours I should be good. PM me when it is convenient.
Thank you sir. Once again "This place ROCKS". :metal:

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Having gotten the front marker lights working, it's on to the headlights. I have an old set of Hella non-dot euro H-4 lights I wanted to use. These lights would not fit in the buckets with the rubber seals installed. Not wanting to lose the dust protection the seals provide, I removed the buckets, placed the seal in the center of the bucket as a template to mark the needed clearance, and cut about 3/32" out of the center of the buckets. Several minutes with a file cleaned up the larger holes. Then a couple coats of rattle can protection and reinstalled them in the grille. A simple upgrade that actually stayed simple. :lol:

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I have a pair of those H4s too.

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I used them on a Alfa Romeo I drove for about ten years. They work good. Not quite as good as the lights on the old lady's Lexus, but they weren't $40K either. :lol:

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I used to work on Alfas and that's where I got mine..

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A new issue has shown up. At some point in the past the left side of the top edge of the tailgate was pushed in. I never noticed in during the paint prep part of the project. The result is that the weather strip around the lift gate doesn't touch on the one side. The gap is several inches long and about 3/16" at the large end. At the least this will allow exhaust fumes to come in from the back if I run the pipes out the rear and it will make things noisier. I didn't have a water problem in the back so I am hoping that will stay the same. I am going to have to find some kind of additional weather striping to seal it up. In a perfect world I would of noticed this and found a way to jack the area back into shape before painting. I will have to think about it and maybe have a plan for repair when I paint the interior. Just sharing this so some else doesn't make the same mistake. Or maybe someone has a way to jack the top back in place. I can see how the gate could easily get deformed if it gets hit when down or if someone were to toss a big beam in the back with the gate up. Hope the pictures help explain the issue. First photo is the good side, the 2nd is the bad side, the last one is the gap from the inside (which is how I noticed it).

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Package was here when I got back from work! :ennyd::ennyd::ennyd:
Thank you very much Richard2721!!!
It's good folks like you that make this place so great!

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Glad ya got it. Hope it work out for ya so you can get her buttoned up. Looking great so far.

Richard

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I wonder if there is enough play in the hinge bolts to loosen and split the difference. If the gate on the burbs are anything like my blazer was I would not run the exhaust straight out back. Didn't matter what I did, fumes got in and there was a bad drone noise as well. Ended up kicking them both out behind the wheels and took care of both problems.

Richard

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I will look in to moving the gate. Maybe I can get lucky. Good advice on the exhaust. Currently it has a pair of two chamber Flowmasters that dump down at the crossmember for the rear suspension. Not real pleasant to ride in for any distance. So I was planning on changing it, but i haven't really made any plans yet. It will be a couple of days before I get the windows in. I've got the seals soaking in soapy water for now, and maybe Friday I will have some time to put them in.

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No improvement gained with moving the gate around. It just wants to be where it is.
I did get the carpet out and removed the aftermarket foam pad that had been put in on top of the factory sound deadener. No heat here! (If you look at the photo you can see the places that the foam melted over the mufflers. ) "Honey what's that smell? Oh it's nothing dear". I then pulled all the old sound deadener up and prepared some rusted spots for spot painting with POR15. All in all the floor board is in really good shape, with the exception that it has 35 extra holes drilled in it that are 1/4" to 3/8" and at least a dozen more smaller ones. Think I will try to find some rubber plugs for the bigger ones. The WMB looks to have had bucket seats once and I think that six of the holes went to some stereo equipment under the second row seat. There are lot of holes in the vertical piece that goes between the floor under the back seat and the wood deck in the back. Maybe some kind of bang board? Who knows? Going to put down B- Quite mat with some window seal tape to quite things down. Moving the mufflers will help with the heat.

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The biggest issue I had with the fixed windows in the third door and the false door was the way the seal was distorted. See photos of seal before removal and the distortion after removal. If you look under the seal you can see the seal is only supported on the back half. I was even more concerned as i would be reusing old seals. So I used some light weight 1" square tubing to hold the front of the seals up in place. I just cut it to size, drilled the window frame and the tubing. Then pop riveted it into place. I was worried that this may be to flimsy to hold the seal, so I had a plan to put a small angle iron to on the divider to hold the tubing up. Turned out there was no need for this, as the rivets seem to hold it fine. Just need some paint and ready for assembly. I believe GM left the seal unsupported so it would be easier to assemble the windows. I did a test run to see if the tubing would prevent the window from being assembled. But it was not a problem, really no different than replacing the roll up window with the fixed window installed. Tomorrow I should be able to get the window sets installed. I have been soaking the seals in soapy water for the last week or ten days.

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Got the second row window sets installed! The support modification worked well on installation so now we'll see what the long run brings. It is hard to see in the photos but the seals no longer sag into the unsupported area. I did use a tip forwarded by the master "LockDoc" saying put some petroleum jelly on the frame to allow the seal to slide into place easier. Worked like a champ. I made sure all the tracks and rollers were lubed up with garage door lube. The windows now roll down and they work like they are new when going up too! :metal:
Soaking the seals in the soapy water (Dawn) really helped with cleaning the old paint/over spray off of the seals.

Thanks again to Richard and Mel.

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Wow that looks a whole lot better. Glad to see it coming together.

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That's looking very nice!

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Looking very nice!

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Thanks everybody for all the encouragement. It makes the skinned knuckles and empty wallet all worth while.