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is the truck on the ground? the way the leafs lean forward on an s10 means the driveshaft will move into the trans when you lower it.

if the truck is on the ground, I would say you need a little more. I have had good luck with reg cab shortbed driveshafts, I think they are around 53", I used a trailblazer shaft on one and it was just a hair too short, I think it was 51.5"

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Agreed, I spent some time at the junk yard but finally found a 53” for mine. It was out of a 2wd blazer and worked great. Blazers have verying lengths as well as the trailblazer.

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It's on the ground. Its from a short bed s10. I guess I need 54.

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well thats terrible, especially since my advice to use a rcsb driveshaft led you there.

but I think your tall valve cover is the culprit. I tuck my motor way back against the firewall as far as it can go, but I use the stock (low) valve cover. with a tall valve cover, the motor cant go back as far.

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I measured it before I left and it was around 53". I didn't change out the yoke. Maybe its different. Oh well $110 to have someone shorten the old one and its aluminum. It doesn't have tall valve covers. Possibly my cab placement was 1/2 inch difference and then then my motor placement was 1/2 inch difference that would make up the extra inch.

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Maybe someday.

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Picked up a pic and pull seat for $55. It will need to be reupholstered.

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thats exactly what mine looked like under a cover someone had added, the upholstery guy tried to tell me it was a 95 or newer but I got it from a 93 suburban, and they only used those floor brackets on 88-94.

he had to cut the "dents" out of the back, is why it mattered to him.

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I plan on leaving the back cushion as is and eliminating the headrest. They had earlier seats that were flat but nowhere near as comfortable.

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28, what seat is that out of? My wife wants a bench and that is a nice looking one.

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1995 Chevy 1500 truck. 88-95 should be similar.

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I am going to have them do them something similar to my Model A seats except the center is going to be cloth. Dark Gray vinyl on the outside and a lighter gray cloth material on the inside.

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Is this mounted on a standard 3100 pedestal, or did you have to modify?

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I cut out all the stuff from the 3100 pedestal I think it is on page 2 of this thread and used the one from the donor seat. It fits perfectly. I just have to drill some holes. I have heard of guys leaving them in but I like all the room under the seat it gives me.

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Got the hoses, starter and manifold installed. Here are the part numbers if anyone is interested for the hoses.

Gates 21717 upper
Master pro 20609 lower

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Nice, hoses seem right at home. You going with the EGR delete?
I have been trying to run the EGR on my Swap but the free flowing exhaust is messing with it and causing idling issues. I may have to try the delete and chip program if it works for you.

Love the orange with the valve covers, looks nice together.

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Thanks I am going to try and do it without the egr but will put the sensor in place. I am thinking about leaving the catalytic converter on it so it doesn't smell like gasoline.

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Steering wheel came today

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Sprayed the inside today.

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Progressing nicely!

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Another item to mark off the list...Jim

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wow pretty! makes me want to paint my doors and cab wall

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You should. My paint is far from show. At least it's one color inside.

It has steering and brakes now.

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Almost have the bed done.

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beauty!

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Got the seat today.

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Not progressing as fast lately. Some motivation showed up on my door step in the form of gauges. :metal:

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Nice gauges. I'm having trouble being motivated also and my next purchase happens to be the need for some nice gauges. Which ones did you decide on and are you using a GPS speed sensor?

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Looking good. As asked above, what gauges and what type of speedometer set up?

I have read 100 fold ways to swap an S10’s frame under a 52 chev. I want a different look and stance. I’m thinking of doing a 68 frame with a 327 turbo 350 package. Anyone have experience with a similar swap ? I heard of a few 47-54 swaps onto mid 80’s full size but never into a full size 67-72 frame. Thoughts? Guidance ? Help?
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mopar,
if you have the original frame you could do a bolt in ifs and fab a rear suspension,or use a modified stock rear suspension with leafs, and then everything would fit.
don't rule out building your own frame with a bolt in front ifs either. if you have fab skills and access to some straight beams to use for a jig, it could be relatively straight forward compared to a frame swap. trust me, frame swap is a lot of work, more so than a bolt in ifs on your old frame.
lots of guys also swap in a front suspension from something else, then do a big c notch out back and then, if you look at it, the only stock chunk of frame left is the part the cab sits on.might as well start over. it might be straighter, lol. what do you have to start with, got a build thread or pics?

not meant to offend anybody, there is a lot of work that has gone into some of these builds and there is some nice stuff sitting on S10 undercarriage. just saying from personal experience that a frame swap is not for the faint of heart so sometimes staying with the stock frame can get you driving faster and maybe keep the half built project off the buy and sell site.

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Dolphin Digital Gauges. I did not do the GPS. My thought was what if its really cloudy outside. I am going to use a pulse generator. These ones you mark exactly a mile then press a button drive a mile then press it again and it self calibrates. Worked perfectly on my 28 Ford. For $330 and it comes with all sending units its a great deal.

Also got the bed all bolted down tonight and the inner fenders wielded in. Just need to put some wood on it now.

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He is correct. The amount of time is probably about equal. The time you save on brakes and suspension work is spent on making the bed fit and mounting the cab and front end. Money wise the S10 swap is probably cheaper though if you use everything. Also depends on what you start with. My original frame needed everything. It had been sitting for 30 years. It has been nice to be able to run to the local auto parts store for everything though.

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yeah, thats what I'm talking about. time for time comparison. if you start with the frame from the truck and install a bolt in ifs, like a scott's unit, then upgrade the rear axle to something that has easily available parts and a good gear ratio for your needs,install the torque tube delete kit on the rear suspension to work with a standard leaf spring set up (new springs as well), then your cab will fit, the box fits, the bumpers fit etc.the power plant would likely be swapped no matter what option you go with so that is a wash in my eyes. it's all based on what you have for cash and skills and cash, and skills. less cash equals more sweat equity so more skills and tools and more time spent before the first ride, plus more chance you will just give up and start using the old truck for a shelf in the shop. good on guys who do the swap and follow it through in a timely fashion or even take years to finish but don't give up.

I already have my 68 frame built with new IFS. Back end is done with new 4 link coil over. Rear diff is rebuilt , 327 bored and assembled with 302 heads , turbo 350 behind it completely re done as well. I just dropped my 52 cab on the frame to see how it will sit and it looks like it is gonna be a tough build. I’m up for the challenge but looking for advise from someone that has done this swap before. Again I did not want it to be just another S10’s swap I want it to have a different stance when it’s done. Any words of wisdom ?

I should start a different thread. Didn’t mean to jump in on this build thread
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More progress.

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Looks Great!

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More progress. Got the filler tube, fuel tank and lines all figured out. Cut down the filler tube and move the return line. Then used a factory boot.

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Very nice.