Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Yeah that always sucks when you get into fixing someone else's mess up when they could have not cut any corners the first time and it would still be in good shape.

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Nice progress!

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Got a little work done the cab today. I cut the rust out on the passenger side firewall, made some templets for the metal and cut the fillers and started welding them in. The welds look like crap but they are solid, I have been fighting with dirty thin metal and I dropped the tig torch and broke the ceramic tip, of course I didn't have any spares couldn't get enough gas to the weld. Finally, after fighting with it for a couple hours, I gave up. Here are the pics:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-49.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-50.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-51.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-52.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-53.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-54.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-55.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-56.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-57.jpg

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Hey looks good! :metal:

Dont worry about the welds the filler will hide them nicely ;) :lol:

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Nice work! Thanks for sharing with us. Don't get too frustrated. It will be worth it in the end.

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Filler? What's filler? We don't need no stinking filler! Just kidding! yes, I know it will fill, I like my welds to look good so when I grind them completely flat they blend good;);)

Thanks, I will try to get back on track tomorrow.

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Yeah i hear ya im kinda picky about it too.. if i had my way i wouldnt even have any filler :lol:

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It's looking good. (Hope y'all don't laugh when you see my welds! :lol: )Hopefully get to start on it in January.

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

nice progress....

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Did a little work on the cab yesterday after I found a temperary fix for my torch. The only tip I could find on Sunday morning was a mig welding tip made out of some kind of fiberglass plastic, it worked for a while then stripped out and kinda had a melt down on the tip. I picked up a new one today and got back after it. Finished the sheetmetal on the left front side. Then put a little primer down to keep it from rusting until bondo work begins, hopefully on the frame. I am going to get some strip material to chamfer the top wire gutter (thanks LFD! Hope you don't mind). I got some new rockers and pillar support from the big brown truck today.

Then made a cab dolly out of a cart out of the scrap pile. It is not the most sturdy design, but it gets the cab up where I can access the rust. Hopefully, it will be warm enough to start working the rockers tomorrow. Very slow going....it seems like the guys on here make it look like a weekend project if you know what I mean. Here are the pics:

Temporary torch tip with the broken one
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-59.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-58.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-60.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-61.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-62.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-63.jpg
NEW PARTS!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-64.jpg
Donor cart for the Cab dolly
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-65.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-67.jpg

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Hacked up the cart.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-68.jpg
Welded some C-perlin braces.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-69.jpg
The cab on it's new perch.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-70.jpg

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Looking good!

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Diggin the cab dolly! Great job!..:metal:

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Cool. Looks good!

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Lookin Sweet dude, awesome progress!!!!

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Thanks for all the props guys. Kinda hard to believe we started disassembly back in August. Time flys when your as slow as me! I know I like working in my shop way more than that crawling around in the mud like we did then. If I could just add on to the east end about 20 feet to get the boat and the rest of my junk out there to store it.

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

I completely understand this!!! :lol: Looking good, though! :metal:

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Man your a hole welding machine! :lol: Looks good!

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Okay, it's been a week and my progress is so slow it's killing me just a little each day. The new cab dolly is doing the job!

I finished the radius on the passenger side firewall. I don't have a way to roll a lip on sheet metal so I just added an edge the slow way (welded).

Next, I started working on the passenger side rust repair. Between the lack of the proper tools and cold weather it has been a slow process.:waah:
I cut the p.o. rocker off and got into the rust. I wasn't planning on getting so deep into it, but you guys know how these "rust free" cabs go, when you get in there, it always has more rust than expected. I also didn't want to change the inner rocker so I just cut all the rust out and welded new metal in. I used rust conversion primer to cover before adding another layer. Today I ordered some of that copper weld through primer that Nuke is using on his projects. Hope to get it in thursday. I am planning to mount the door to check for clearance issues and weld it all in tomorrow (hopefully). BTW, these aftermarket parts require some "tweeking to make them fit. On to the pics:

Flimsy without the lip/flange
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-71.jpg
Lip welded
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-72.jpg
Welds ground off.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-73.jpg
Awe the sweet smell of rust!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-74.jpg
Rocker Removed
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-75.jpg
More cutting
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-76.jpg
Rust cut out
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-77.jpg
New Metal welded in.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-78.jpg
Brace added.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-79.jpg

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Brace welded
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-80.jpg
Fitting the pillar
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-81.jpg
Rust inhibiting primer.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-82.jpg
Ready for welding
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-83.jpg
Scored new to me driver side fender and some boxes of parts!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-84.jpg

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Nice work on the repairs and firewall. Fender looks good.

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

cool beans!

good work too

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Nice progress!....Great detail work, specially on the passanger side firewall welding job!

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Out of curiosity and lack of knowledge, what did you use for the lip that you welded? I am going to do a similar mod and don't have the means to roll the lip either. Thanks and it looks great!

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Looks good man!

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Thanks!

Thanks!

Thanks!
0331Grunt,
Thanks!
I am using 22 Ga. sheetmetal for most of the metal work including that lip. I am using a tig welder so it is pretty easy but very time consuming. Probably twice as long as using a mig. It would be better if I could get some 20 or 18 gauge maybe. But I haven't been able to find it locally.
Thanks!

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Thanks. So you just cut a strip the correct width and welded it on? Could you use a flux core on that? That is all I have at the moment... hopt to get a regulator and hook up some gas, but like always~ improvise. adapt. overcome :lol: Thanks again and have a Merry CHRISTmas...

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Merry Christmas to you and all too! Yes I cut a strip that made it right width and welded the edge to form a lip. I am getting 100% pentetration with the tig so it should be plenty strong. Yes, you can use a flux core if that is all you have. You already know the down side of this. I improvise all the time too. Notice the blue metal used for the brace on the lower pillar. That metal is heavier than the regular body metal. I had a metal tray that was the perfect thickness, so I hacked it up and made the brace. Hang in there, you have your chassis out of the weather so, you are ahead of me there. Hopefully soon for us.

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Update:
Well we got a blizzard here on Christmas eve. It was blowing snow 50 mph! Thought we were in Canada for while (no offence Nuke). It is still about 40-50 in the shop but it's not too bad once you get started.
I pretty well got the passenger side done. The rocker from LMC was not the easiest to make fit. Today I got started on the driver side. Managed to drill all the spot welds out. Then got the rocker off, sad thing is, this rocker wasn't rusted at all, very solid. But, it had some heavy dents that would be tough to fix. The pillar is solid and won't need to be replaced. On to the pics:
Snow in the back yard yep in Oklahoma
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-85.jpg
Pillar welded in.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-86.jpg
Fitting the rocker panel.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-87.jpg
Checking the fit with a door.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-88.jpg
Rocker welded in.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-90.jpg
More welds
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-91.jpg
Rocker finished.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-92.jpg

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Driver side rocker
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-93.jpg
Spotwelds drilled
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-94.jpg
Rocker free.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-95.jpg
Solid lower pillar.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-96.jpg

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

Looks good. My little garage was still only about 40*... my little 1500 watt electric heater isn't much.. but hey, isn't that what it is all about! I'll have to come check yours out when I make it to my dads this spring. Gonna be driving by then?

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Yep, that's what it's all about.....freezing your buns off to work on your project. Done by spring? Good question....doubt it unless I have a windfall of epic size. The biggest hold up right now is buying the parts to build the chassis. You know how it is when you have to build on no budget.:waah:

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Yeah i hear you there... sucks too :lol:

Least yours is in the shop, my crew ive been working on is in front of the shop and i have a S10 in the shop im working on painting..
We have central heat in our shop that works really good but we ran out of propane Christmas Eve so it doesnt work so well right now :lol: now were waiting on our present of propane to show up if the trucks can make it out :lol:

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Yep mine is in the shop where you can see your breath. But, I have no heat so you have me there. Hope you get your propane quickly.

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Okay, made small progress this evening. Found a little rust on the lower pillar, so I cut it out and made a patch and welded it in. I also cleaned out behind the pillar and rust conversion primered too. Then fitted the rocker panel and tacked it in. I haven't installed any rockers in a long time, but it seems to me they are still using the same tooling to stamp these things. These aftermarket parts fit like crap! I had to cut this side to get it to fit and both side will need some more massaging when I get ready for body work. Still need to check the fitment with the driver side door before welding it solid. I got my copper weld through primer recommended by Nuke. It seems to work great!

Found some rust holes in the lower pillar.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-98.jpg
Cut out the section
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-99.jpg
Made a patch.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...uck/69-100.jpg
Welded the patch.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...uck/69-101.jpg
Welds ground smooth
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...uck/69-102.jpg
Copper weld through primer.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ruck/69-97.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...uck/69-103.jpg
Fitting the panel.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...uck/69-104.jpg
Panel tacked in place.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...uck/69-105.jpg

Re: 1969 Short Wide
 

looks good, keep at it....

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Thanks for the copper primer info. Where did ya get it and how much was it? :D

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Looking good. I have NEVER done any type of body work so I'm sure I'll need some advice, help or whatever when it comes time. And where did you get that stuff? Does it work well? Thanks!

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Thanks Heath, I went back and looked at your 67 build and saw that you had a bunch more of the same type of rust repair that I am doing. Your turned out great! when you going to have that truck back on the road?

Guys,
I purchased the primer HERE. It is expensive $23 plus $11.95 shipping.(I didn't know the shipping was so high till I checked out.) You can find it on the net real easy just searching. SJ ships really quick so I had it in like 3 or 4 business days.
It works really good! I will be using it on all the hidden areas I can't get regular epoxy primer into.


0331Grunt, don't sweat the body work, bondo covers all that! Just messing with you. If you take your time (not as much as me) it will all go smooth. Also, just stay in the build section and find out as much as you can about the best way to do repairs. I will be glad to assist you if I can.

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LOL.. I understand about the Bondo stuff - spent about an hour scraping/grinding/sanding about 1/4" of it off my driver fender! I am taking my time and hope that it turns out like I see it in my mind (if you can dream it, right? :lol:) But any way, thanks for the info and I may take you up on the offer to help..

Craig