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DeadheadNM 12-12-2017 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Spf79 (Post 8100797)
Another question. Anyone replace these rivets?
And does anyone have a good recommendation for a pop rivet gun?

Why replace? Just curious - tight examples not hard to find. I had a set replated for use on my current build and they turned out great.

Spf79 12-12-2017 02:21 AM

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With spares too. Nice.

Yup, kind of a basket case purchase. Doubles of random items. ;)

Spf79 12-12-2017 02:31 AM

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It's really difficult to explain how everything should line up, but I'll give it a try.

In a perfect world, the angle of the pinion u-joints (front or back) should be at the same angle as your transfer case u-joints. This guarantees that your u-joint angles are the same which is critical for vibration and longevity. I always make sure this rule applies to the rear axle because this is what powers the truck down the road 99% of the time.
The front axle is a bit more difficult, because if you set the pinion angle to the output angle of the transfer case (ideal) it may not give you the proper caster. IMO, I would rather sacrifice a bit of vibration and u joint life for a much better handling and driving truck. How often do we use 4WD anyways, and it's usually low speed? It would be great if we could adjust the caster/camber relative to the pinion angle, but unfortunately this is set at the factory and not adjustable unless you're willing to cut and relocate the front knuckles.

Yes sir, I'm with you. I have the rear end shimmed so that it is pointing at what I hope is the correct angle. Wont know until the drive train is in. We will see on the front. Like you noted above, I will hardly ever have it in 4wd so it should not matter as much as the rearend. Regardless, this rig better be smooth down the road or I'm gonna lose my mind. My Jeep experience just spooked me a little.

Spf79 12-12-2017 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM (Post 8102871)
Why replace? Just curious - tight examples not hard to find. I had a set replated for use on my current build and they turned out great.

I was planning on having mine plated as well. Can I have them plated without being taken apart? Your thoughts?

I need a pop rivet gun for some heater control & box restoration. The rivets on my heater control assembly are broken, so I figured that I would just buy the resto kit for the controls and do it this winter. I already have the interior box torn down, sending to the powder coater soon.
I'm also planning to pick up an exterior box at the next Portland swap meet. The previous owner at some point cut the original in half with a sawzall. Lol... (sad face)

Plus I need to replace the kick panel vent rubber. Yay!

DeadheadNM 12-12-2017 10:14 AM

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The tail gate hinges can be replated as assembled no sweat. I had mine clear zinc plated and these will be (are) painted to match the body like GM did. I had a NOS set powder coated orange and I used these on my k20.

My pop rivet gun is a cheapie from Home Depot.

Spf79 12-12-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM (Post 8103044)
The tail gate hinges can be replated as assembled no sweat. I had mine clear zinc plated and these will be (are) painted to match the body like GM did. I had a NOS set powder coated orange and I used these on my k20.

My pop rivet gun is a cheapie from Home Depot.

Excellent, thank you for the information. I did not want to disassemble those anyway. ;)

Spf79 12-20-2017 01:14 AM

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Picked up my motor today. Need to install the oil pump, pan and the rest of the covers... and intake. Hope to get the drive train in before New Years.

tomtuna1978 12-20-2017 10:59 AM

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Nice build bro. Just found it. Subscribed

Spf79 12-20-2017 11:30 AM

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Nice build bro. Just found it. Subscribed

Thank you sir!
Glad to have you. ;)

Spf79 12-22-2017 12:39 AM

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Timing cover showed up today. Yes!
Still trying to figure out what kind of valve covers I want to go with. I'm having a hard time. ;)

Any suggestions....?
I was thinking old school M/T covers in black.

simicrintz 12-22-2017 11:28 AM

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Old school MT's would look very nice I would think. Waddya gonna do with the timing chain cover? Paint or leave "gold"?

PSYCHO_OUTLAW 12-22-2017 06:31 PM

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crazy how clean your gargage is during this whole build... props to you sir!!!!

Radiatta_71 12-22-2017 09:00 PM

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Nice to see another 1st Gen in the 'couv. Nice build

Spf79 12-23-2017 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by simicrintz (Post 8111346)
Old school MT's would look very nice I would think. Waddya gonna do with the timing chain cover? Paint or leave "gold"?

Thank you for the feedback! :)

Yeah, it is either the M/T's or the gloss black chevy script. Leaning M/T's... I like the old school touch the M/T valve covers bring. I dont think I can do the T-handle hold downs though... I went with the slotted mags for that vibe as well. My old man told me that I need a big chrome barefoot gas pedal and a Mr. Horsepower sticker for my wing window. Lol. He is the same guy that put a 427 in a 55 chevy truck without any frame modifications. I remember him welding a chain to the frame and bolting it to the block instead of replacing the torn motor mount. That truck also had that sticker in the wing window. Childhood memories!

Leaving it gold. Just something different. I'm suprised how much more gold the cover is than the oil pan. Milodon cover vs weiand pan. :( I asked the machine shop to put the brass freeze plugs in and not paint the block. Of course they put the silver ones in and painted it. The builder was super nice, he was just trying to be helpful since I told him I was painting the block black. ;)

A lot of the bolts and little brackets in the suspension are the same zinc gold color. It started with the Offroad design heavy duty shackles arriving with that plating. I thought it was a nice touch against the black powder coat and paint. The Header and intake bolts will be the same color.

Spf79 12-23-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PSYCHO_OUTLAW (Post 8111680)
crazy how clean your gargage is during this whole build... props to you sir!!!!

Lol, thanks buddy! I work hard on that. ;)

It is an unspoken agreement with the wife. The last time I did something like this the kids tracked red dust from the aluminum polish into the house. It was like flour that gets into everything. I had just finished all of the hard wood floors in the house with some natural looking "fake hand scraped" 3/4" dark oak. When the red dust gets into all of the "natural cracks and knots" momma loses her friggin mind. I spent a day on my hands and knees with acetone and Q-tips getting the stuff out of the cracks. Never again.

Plus I just remodeled the garage summer 2016, paint, drywall and concrete floor refinish. It is my zen area. Here is a pick from when I was doing the jeep.

Spf79 12-23-2017 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Radiatta_71 (Post 8111811)
Nice to see another 1st Gen in the 'couv. Nice build

Right on buddy! Where are you at? I'm over by 164th and Cascade park drive.

simicrintz 12-23-2017 12:02 PM

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I like the contrast of the timing cover and now see that it is not a stand alone and that you have other parts the same color. Sounds very well thought out!

I have the T handle hold downs on mine (Block is red, valve covers are polished aluminum-I'd post pics but they always turn sideways for some reason!). Some old school throwbacks are good (for me!), but maybe that is because I am old!

Funny about your Dad and the BBC. I used to put SBC engines in my Datsun trucks without any frame or suspension upgrades; they didn't last long!

Really enjoy watching your progress; that is gonna be a beautiful rig!

Radiatta_71 12-23-2017 12:09 PM

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Right on buddy! Where are you at? I'm over by 164th and Cascade park drive.

I'm downtown near main street

Spf79 12-23-2017 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by simicrintz (Post 8112201)
I like the contrast of the timing cover and now see that it is not a stand alone and that you have other parts the same color. Sounds very well thought out!

I have the T handle hold downs on mine (Block is red, valve covers are polished aluminum-I'd post pics but they always turn sideways for some reason!). Some old school throwbacks are good (for me!), but maybe that is because I am old!

Funny about your Dad and the BBC. I used to put SBC engines in my Datsun trucks without any frame or suspension upgrades; they didn't last long!

Really enjoy watching your progress; that is gonna be a beautiful rig!

Thanks buddy!
That is the exact reason those T handle hold downs drive me nuts. ;) I am a bit OCD. Post the pics, I gave up on the pics being right side up. Lol, you probably noticed.

The Datsun/sbc combo sounds like fun!

Spf79 12-23-2017 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Radiatta_71 (Post 8112213)
I'm downtown near main street

Awesome!
You have a driver or a project?

Let me know if you are looking for any parts. I will probably have extra stuff I need to offload as I move forward.

simicrintz 12-23-2017 01:38 PM

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I have been able to keep them pretty straight (I will admit to suffering from OCD as well!) but have thought about how I will feel if they start to get crooked! I'll attach a few pics and just deal with the crooked nature as it appears you have as well....

Lots of power and low weight made the Datsun's a blast to drive. Built one as more of a street version (wide tires on back and skinny up front; it was the 80's after all!) and one as a lifted truck with 31's. Both were fun but the front ends and rear ends did not like the power or the weight!

Spf79 12-23-2017 02:11 PM

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I have been able to keep them pretty straight (I will admit to suffering from OCD as well!) but have thought about how I will feel if they start to get crooked! I'll attach a few pics and just deal with the crooked nature as it appears you have as well....

Lots of power and low weight made the Datsun's a blast to drive. Built one as more of a street version (wide tires on back and skinny up front; it was the 80's after all!) and one as a lifted truck with 31's. Both were fun but the front ends and rear ends did not like the power or the weight!

Looks amazing! I like the ram horns, I almost ran with those. Still might if these headers don't fit.
I bet the Datsun was like a mini dragster!! I knew a guy that had a 4wd chevy luv with a sbc in it... lol, it broke every time he drove it.
I read one of your posts on another thread, did you say you have a jeepster?
I was looking at a Jeepster bull nose basket case before I ran across my current project. I have no regrets:), but I do like the Jeepsters.

simicrintz 12-23-2017 03:06 PM

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Looks amazing! I like the ram horns, I almost ran with those. Still might if these headers don't fit.
I bet the Datsun was like a mini dragster!! I knew a guy that had a 4wd chevy luv with a sbc in it... lol, it broke every time he drove it.
I read one of your posts on another thread, did you say you have a jeepster?
I was looking at a Jeepster bull nose basket case before I ran across my current project. I have no regrets:), but I do like the Jeepsters.

Thank you! The ram horns were ceramic coated so they should stay nice looking. I've ran headers before (have them on my Jeepster) but not sure they really add much so will stay with stock manifolds here.

Those little trucks were just not build for the weight or power or weight of the non stock engines :) But you're right; it was a blast to drive!

You are better off with the Blazer than a Jeepster, especially when it comes to parts. Then there is the "a bull nose isn't a real Jeepster" banter that you would have had to put up with if you had gone that route! They are cool rigs though; I'll attach a pic (probably crooked!) of mine (and if that is not allowed on the board, will a mod please remove or let me know?).

Spf79 12-23-2017 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by simicrintz (Post 8112319)
Thank you! The ram horns were ceramic coated so they should stay nice looking. I've ran headers before (have them on my Jeepster) but not sure they really add much so will stay with stock manifolds here.

Those little trucks were just not build for the weight or power or weight of the non stock engines :) But you're right; it was a blast to drive!

You are better off with the Blazer than a Jeepster, especially when it comes to parts. Then there is the "a bull nose isn't a real Jeepster" banter that you would have had to put up with if you had gone that route! They are cool rigs though; I'll attach a pic (probably crooked!) of mine (and if that is not allowed on the board, will a mod please remove or let me know?).

Your Jeepster is awesome!!!
I was not a huge fan of the bull nose, so I feel I lucked out picking up my blazer.
;)

simicrintz 12-24-2017 12:56 PM

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Your Jeepster is awesome!!!
I was not a huge fan of the bull nose, so I feel I lucked out picking up my blazer.
;)

Thank you, sir! It is a fun little rig and I enjoy it. Some days the Blazer is fun to hop in to (Mama and I grabbed our 3 nieces and nephews the other night and took them in it to go look at Christmas lights) and other days the Jeepster is the right rig to grab (I like taking that out to the beach to grab lunch and run up and down the coastline).

In the end, I believe that you did better by grabbing the Blazer as well!

bbrriiaann1973 12-27-2017 04:49 AM

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Do you any milky way bars left?

Spf79 12-27-2017 01:04 PM

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Do you any milky way bars left?

... no (sad face)
Box came with the rig, it made me laugh so I kept parts in it.
:)

bbrriiaann1973 12-27-2017 10:25 PM

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I thought that was funny

Spf79 12-31-2017 05:42 PM

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Got some painting done today.

I had more time into the preparation of the garage with everything getting a drop cloth lol.

The motor recieved a nice coat of gloss black, and the gas tank got a nice coat of silver hammered metal.

Spf79 12-31-2017 05:55 PM

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Evapo rust.

I can't say how impressed I am with this stuff. I am cleaning a ton of bolts and pieces that I want to reuse.

It did a great job on my door screws and ferrells, not to mention my floor vent brackets and arms.

I have been picking it up at harbor freight, $25 a gallon I think, and you can reuse it somewhat... pretty good bang for the buck.

The bolt "smoke ring" made me smile... not sure what came off of that bolt, but I am sure it was bad. ;)

DeadheadNM 12-31-2017 06:55 PM

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I second your endorsement of evaporust. And I have to confess, I ran out and bought sorting trays for my bolts. Thank you. Help me :)

7D2N 12-31-2017 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spf79 (Post 8109613)
Picked up my motor today. Need to install the oil pump, pan and the rest of the covers... and intake. Hope to get the drive train in before New Years.

Very nice, the motor and the slot wheels are a favorite of mime.

Spf79 12-31-2017 08:08 PM

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I second your endorsement of evaporust. And I have to confess, I ran out and bought sorting trays for my bolts. Thank you. Help me :)

Yes!!! Sorting trays - hours of entertainment!!!
That is awesome!

Is it bad that I would rather sit in my garage and sort bolts on New Years eve than go out and visit with friends and family?

I think I have issues.

Spf79 12-31-2017 08:09 PM

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Very nice, the motor and the slot wheels are a favorite of mime.

Thank you for the compliments sir!

Willowrun 12-31-2017 10:11 PM

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Great build thread....top notch work at a pretty fast pace. Looking forward to more updates.

Spf79 12-31-2017 10:40 PM

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Great build thread....top notch work at a pretty fast pace. Looking forward to more updates.

Thanks buddy!

But it is just never fast enough, it feels like I am taking forever. ;)

Fyi... please note. The LMC blazer/burban tank straps and accessories are a joke. My experience so far makes me feel as if I am scabbing in a tank for a different vehicle. The straps are pre bent for something else, not a Blazer. I had to flatten them out with a soft mallet and then re-bend them. Lets not forget that you have to change out your filler neck in order for it to take fuel at a rate faster than one click on the gas pump.

No basketball for the kids until I get some different bolts. Lol.

Happy new year!

best view 01-01-2018 08:37 AM

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there is no cure for those issues pete is a doctor just ask him for a cure for this sickness

notsolo 01-01-2018 11:44 AM

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Late to the Party, Super clean work and another awesome build. Just finished my fresh air flapper doors, I used 3/32 silicone sheet instead of the standard foam. More durable IMO. Conforms to the curves nicely.

simicrintz 01-01-2018 01:08 PM

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Looking good; did you settle on a valve cover?

Spf79 01-01-2018 02:07 PM

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there is no cure for those issues pete is a doctor just ask him for a cure for this sickness

I have thought about it, and I don't want to be cured. :)


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