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dsraven 10-16-2018 03:36 PM

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have you done a "tire on and suspension at full compression" turning test to ensure the rubber doesn't tear a fender off when turned all the way and the suspension bottoms? with the spacers the tires do more of a sweep during a turn so they may get closer to the wheel openings than you may realize. it would suck to find that out too late.
I am sure you have done the research and found the video on scrub radius, tire size and wheel offset issues and steering included angle etc. your truck, do it like you want. as long as it is safe to drive on the same roads as the rest of us and our kids.

28TudorAZ 10-16-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dsraven (Post 8365706)
have you done a "tire on and suspension at full compression" turning test to ensure the rubber doesn't tear a fender off when turned all the way and the suspension bottoms? with the spacers the tires do more of a sweep during a turn so they may get closer to the wheel openings than you may realize.

Considering I just put them on there 3 days ago and the cab and front end are still off what do you think? I guess I will see when it actually runs and drives and adjust accordingly.

dsraven 10-16-2018 05:58 PM

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oh hey, sorry man.
bye bye

MiraclePieCo 10-17-2018 03:28 AM

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Exactly. Everyone has heard. I researched it quite a bit and never found anyone who actually had the issue.

Awesome, lol - opinions are plentiful, experience is rare!

mikebte 10-17-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 28TudorAZ (Post 8365606)
Exactly. Everyone has heard. I researched it quite a bit and never found anyone who actually had the issue..

Crazy the stuff people make up. Porsche used wheel spacers from the factory on the 928 and it would run 170MPH. I think if used correctly you will have no issues. Correctly being the key word.

I remember 10 years ago I was telling people how an electric fan was better than a mechanical fan. You would think I was taking ways peoples kids, they would tell me how wrong I was and it was a phase. Now look. Most people speak hear say and not facts.

Keep up the good work, enjoying you build

Jesse Z 10-18-2018 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mikebte (Post 8366257)
Crazy the stuff people make up. Porsche used wheel spacers from the factory on the 928 and it would run 170MPH.
I remember 10 years ago I was telling people how an electric fan was better than a mechanical fan. You would think I was taking ways peoples kids, they would tell me how wrong I was and it was a phase. Now look. Most people speak hear say and not facts.


Their opinions are typically given with dire warnings about you killing busloads of orphans and not being on the same highway with their family, lol!

Enough digression: back to the build thread please!

GreasyLikeaBurger 10-20-2018 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mikebte (Post 8366257)
Crazy the stuff people make up. Porsche used wheel spacers from the factory on the 928 and it would run 170MPH. I think if used correctly you will have no issues. Correctly being the key word.

I remember 10 years ago I was telling people how an electric fan was better than a mechanical fan. You would think I was taking ways peoples kids, they would tell me how wrong I was and it was a phase. Now look. Most people speak hear say and not facts.

Keep up the good work, enjoying you build

Well I actually work for Porsche as a tech, 10-15mm spacers are nothing to bump out a wheel for fitment. But when you increase that to 3+inches, you are changing the geometry of the front end.

28TudorAZ 10-23-2018 12:51 AM

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So I got the cab back on over the weekend and welded up the firewall holes and bolted it up. Also today I had the day off and put the 2" lowering blocks on the back axle and welded up a bunch of holes on the inside and old fuel filler hole. I also ordered a steering column, steering shaft, steering joints, transmission cooler, a 16 inch fan and a pedal assembly today. This should keep me busy for a while. Not that I don't have anything to do but I like to skip around so I don't get frustrated or bored. Plus I can't put the front end back on till all of this is on there.

28TudorAZ 10-25-2018 07:34 PM

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Finally got the dash ready for paint.

joedoh 10-25-2018 07:48 PM

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looks great!

28TudorAZ 10-28-2018 12:50 AM

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Built the brackets for the radiator support, fan brackets and mounted the transmission cooler today.

54ChevyLs 11-03-2018 06:43 AM

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Your doing some excellent work! Keep it up!

28TudorAZ 11-03-2018 09:44 PM

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Your doing some excellent work! Keep it up!

Thanks. Got the steering column mount made up.

8man 11-04-2018 08:36 AM

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Nice looking dash, good work on the vents.

I got the same steering column installed with my buddy in the 48.

28TudorAZ 11-04-2018 05:32 PM

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Got the power booster and pedal assembly put in. If you don't use the s10 pedal setup you can cut the end of the brake rod and tap it to use with aftermarket pedal assembly.

mikebte 11-04-2018 10:00 PM

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Got the power booster and pedal assembly put in. If you don't use the s10 pedal setup you can cut the end of the brake rod and tap it to use with aftermarket pedal assembly.

That's looking great! Keep it up

28TudorAZ 11-06-2018 07:53 PM

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That's looking great! Keep it up


Thanks. Got the brake lines cut and took them to a shop last night and got them crimped. Bolted them on late last night. Put some fluid in and we have a pedal. Still need to properly bleed. Probably the first time in 25 years the truck had working brakes.

joedoh 11-06-2018 07:59 PM

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working brakes are a good thing! great progress!

mikebte 11-07-2018 12:20 AM

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Very nice, hope you make it down to Tucson in that rig. I would love to have a look once it's running.

28TudorAZ 11-07-2018 06:41 PM

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Ok picked this up at a junkyard. I think I need another inch. Any thoughts? The yoke seems pretty short.

joedoh 11-07-2018 09:33 PM

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is the truck on the ground? the way the leafs lean forward on an s10 means the driveshaft will move into the trans when you lower it.

if the truck is on the ground, I would say you need a little more. I have had good luck with reg cab shortbed driveshafts, I think they are around 53", I used a trailblazer shaft on one and it was just a hair too short, I think it was 51.5"

mikebte 11-07-2018 09:48 PM

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Agreed, I spent some time at the junk yard but finally found a 53” for mine. It was out of a 2wd blazer and worked great. Blazers have verying lengths as well as the trailblazer.

28TudorAZ 11-07-2018 10:28 PM

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It's on the ground. Its from a short bed s10. I guess I need 54.

joedoh 11-07-2018 11:09 PM

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well thats terrible, especially since my advice to use a rcsb driveshaft led you there.

but I think your tall valve cover is the culprit. I tuck my motor way back against the firewall as far as it can go, but I use the stock (low) valve cover. with a tall valve cover, the motor cant go back as far.

28TudorAZ 11-08-2018 12:55 AM

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well thats terrible, especially since my advice to use a rcsb driveshaft led you there.

but I think your tall valve cover is the culprit. I tuck my motor way back against the firewall as far as it can go, but I use the stock (low) valve cover. with a tall valve cover, the motor cant go back as far.

I measured it before I left and it was around 53". I didn't change out the yoke. Maybe its different. Oh well $110 to have someone shorten the old one and its aluminum. It doesn't have tall valve covers. Possibly my cab placement was 1/2 inch difference and then then my motor placement was 1/2 inch difference that would make up the extra inch.


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