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NeoJuice 11-25-2016 09:07 PM

1952 Project 1433
 
Hello Everyone.

I've been a long time lerker here as everyone else starts out. So I decided to start my own build thread to help me along the way with questions and answers I might need from this awesome truck community.

I know there are a couple Edmonton & Alberta guys on the forum which would be cool to connect with. Off the top of my head is "84blaze","Thesilverfox" &
"Dave836"

I purchased the truck on Nov 5, 2016 from a local guy who was working on this truck for what he said was 10 years and just lost interest in building it. I
paid $8000 for the truck which I thought was a fair deal. I'm going to try and keep it a budget build around $10-12K if possible. All I want from this truck
is something cool for cruising around in on nice summer days and to tinker with in the garage.

It was kind of an odd time to be purchasing a truck. We are in the process of building a new house with a 24x24 garage and also on one side it has a tandem. So basically a three car garage which will give me plenty of room for working on the truck. The new house wont be ready until December or January so the truck is sitting in storage until we move into the new house. My wife didn't want it sitting in our existing two car garage as we are trying to sell our existing house. So its currently under a truck cover(came with truck) under partially covered storage until Jan or Feb when I can get it out.

Here are the specs of the truck.

Engine: Fresh rebuilt chevrolet 350 with .030" bore over and mild cam. Has a 700r4 corvette servo, Stage 2 shift kit, Beast sun shell 3000 Stall converter &
B&M Unimatic Shifter.

Body: 1953 Chevrolet 1 ton model 1433 sitting on a original 1/2 ton sand blasted and painted frame. The cab has no rust or rot and a solid floor with no
holes (except factory floor holes) with some really nice exterior patina. It has a nicely matched patina GMC box on it & Auto Meter Gauges inside the truck.

Suspension: Total Cost Involved Coil-Spring Mustang II front suspension in the front w/manual steering rack with a underfloor mounted break booster. A Total Cost Involved Parabolic Leaf Spring Rear Suspension in the rear. The seller said it has a 77 Trans AM posi rear end with disk breaks but I'm pretty sure it's a 79(Still trying to find more details on that once i get the truck in it's new home).

This is a rough mental checklist I'm creating before I can actually get it into my new garage and see what else it needs.

-Install TCI front sway bar.
-Install Drive Shaft (previous owner is finding me one)
-Install other drivers side rear shock (I have it)
-Rear disk break parts on Trans Am Posi Rear End(calipers/pads/rotors etc etc)
-Rear break lines run to master cylinder.
-Front break hoses/lines.
-Parking break cables (hope to connect to floor OEM pedal in cab)
-Minor wiring (headlight, alternator, electric fan)
-Proper floor mount & hook up steering linkage & column. (Still have to figure this out, might change it out for an ididit column, I also have multiple
universal joints and rods for the steering that came with the truck).
-Find original bench seat & frame if possible
-Purchase Fuel gauge and wire it up to behind seat tank.
-Install Seat belts
-Cut larger hole in floor for break pedal.
-Remove & sell the Tri-Power setup w/braided gas lines & fuel log
-Sell the additional Holley manifold and edelbrock carburetor which came with the truck for a more reliable 350 manifold and new carburetor. (might just
a rebuild kit for the edelbrok not sure yet)
-Exhaust system
-Swap out painted grill for original chrome rusted patina grill. Possibly sell the grill that's currently installed in the truck
-Sell additional front bumper splash apron.
-Get Chevrolet tailgate and sell GMC tailgate(possibly)
-Get a proper Gas pedal and linkage to Carb.
-Sell the rims & tires to get something a little better. Tires are apparently brand new.

So here are the pictures. I'm dying because I want to start work on it but I have to wait until the new year. I'm probably going to have tons of questions
during this build so I hope it can also help others out as well. Also there might be a bit of delay in posts since I'm not starting on this project until the new year.

Thank you for reading my post.

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lv2tri2 11-25-2016 09:57 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
That is beautiful, you did good.

fisherman420 11-25-2016 10:47 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
You've got a good head start, stance looks good!

Zoomin 11-25-2016 10:55 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Why are you pitching the 3 carb setup?

Truck looks like a great start for your plans.

NeoJuice 11-26-2016 01:12 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lv2tri2 (Post 7777994)
That is beautiful, you did good.

Thank you.

NeoJuice 11-26-2016 01:13 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fisherman420 (Post 7778026)
You've got a good head start, stance looks good!

The stance might change a little since the suspension isn't even broken in yet and settled. So it might turn out to be a little lower which I want. Might even add some blocks to the rear to lower it a little more. Once I get some miles on it I'll see how the stance is.

northern 49 11-26-2016 01:14 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
I'd say that's a pretty good buy. I looked at that truck several times on kijiji. I kinda wish I could have bought it but I don't have room for two. I am also in Alberta, down in Medicine Hat. I will be fallowing along for sure.

NeoJuice 11-26-2016 01:22 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoomin (Post 7778032)
Why are you pitching the 3 carb setup?

Truck looks like a great start for your plans.

I'm ditching the 3 carb setup because the previous owner put all three of the same carbs on the engine and it doesn't run properly. The two outer carbs are not the proper carbs and would need to be rebuilt properly. See attached links.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Roches...age,41655.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF6AGb9glSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylgbfNPBp-4

Since this is a budget build it would be easier to swap the manifold and put on a 4 barrel carb then to spend all that money on trying to fix the tri-power. I want something turn key and reliable. I'm sure if I can sell all the extra parts I should be able to get the needed parts.

To answer your other question. I want a patina rat rod on the outside and the interior will be done and nice on the inside.

Thank you for reading my post.

NeoJuice 11-26-2016 01:43 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by northern 49 (Post 7778139)
I'd say that's a pretty good buy. I looked at that truck several times on kijiji. I kinda wish I could have bought it but I don't have room for two. I am also in Alberta, down in Medicine Hat. I will be fallowing along for sure.

Thank you for the following. Like I said I might not be posting to much until me and the wife move into the new house but I cant wait to start working on it.

The thing is with the truck, all the hard work has been done. Its just a lot of little stuff that needs to be scratched off the list. I hope to have it on the road by spring and maybe if I get enough miles on it maybe the radium car show this coming Sept. But that is yet to be determined. I hope to have the support of this great forum and people to help me along the way.

I even had a 220V outlet put in the garage on its own 50AMP breaker for a welder if I need it. At this time I don't have a welder but incase I needed one I have an outlet there.

jkeating1 12-03-2016 04:12 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
I'm curious--the 1953 Chevy truck order guide lists all the truck model numbers in 3, 4, 5, & 6 thousand series numbers, except for the sedan delivery based on the passenger car chassis. Yours and others I've seen on here have the 1430, or 1433 designation. Is that unique to Canadian-marketed trucks?

northern 49 12-03-2016 04:41 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkeating1 (Post 7785625)
I'm curious--the 1953 Chevy truck order guide lists all the truck model numbers in 3, 4, 5, & 6 thousand series numbers, except for the sedan delivery based on the passenger car chassis. Yours and others I've seen on here have the 1430, or 1433 designation. Is that unique to Canadian-marketed trucks?

Yes this unique to Canadian models. The 1300 series would be equivalent to the 3100 series in the US. 1400 series to the 4000 series etc. My truck is also a 1433 (one ton cab and chassis single rear wheels) but it is just cab and front clip on a 1300 chassis. The heavier trucks are plentiful here In Alberta and Saskatchewan. I swear every farm had one or more.

Advanced Design 12-03-2016 11:10 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Hey Neo, welcome. That is a good looking truck and I too think it was a good buy. Like you said a lot of the hard work is done.

Good luck with the move into the new house. I will be tagging along for updates.

NeoJuice 12-05-2016 01:15 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7785981)
Hey Neo, welcome. That is a good looking truck and I too think it was a good buy. Like you said a lot of the hard work is done.

Good luck with the move into the new house. I will be tagging along for updates.

Thank you. I hope to have the truck in my new garage by end of January or beginning of Feb. My storage is only until Feb 5th so I hope I don't have to extend it any further then that.

NeoJuice 12-05-2016 01:18 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by northern 49 (Post 7785645)
Yes this unique to Canadian models. The 1300 series would be equivalent to the 3100 series in the US. 1400 series to the 4000 series etc. My truck is also a 1433 (one ton cab and chassis single rear wheels) but it is just cab and front clip on a 1300 chassis. The heavier trucks are plentiful here In Alberta and Saskatchewan. I swear every farm had one or more.

Great answer Northern 49. I was wondering that myself because I was trying to google the model numbers of the trucks. I still need to find out information for

Engine
TRIM
Body serial
Paint.

My model is 1433 but I couldn't find any other details.

jkeating1 12-05-2016 02:42 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
This is the US '53 Order Guide. If the 1400 Canadian series crosses directly with the 4000 US version, this should give you all the info.

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/doc...olet-Truck.pdf

NeoJuice 12-05-2016 04:07 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkeating1 (Post 7787578)
This is the US '53 Order Guide. If the 1400 Canadian series crosses directly with the 4000 US version, this should give you all the info.

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/doc...olet-Truck.pdf

Thank you for the information. I believe I've looked at this guide before but didn't find any information in there from my VIN.

jkeating1 12-05-2016 04:48 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
I didn't think about referencing it by VIN, but I doubt that Chevrolet Central Office was computerized to the extent that production options, paint codes, and so forth for a 1953 vehicle would be in a database.

If you do find it, be sure to post the source. I could use that!

NeoJuice 12-05-2016 04:53 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Here are some of the numbers off my VIN tag.

TRIM - 394
PAINT - 234
Body Serial - 315
Engine - XC544984

STOCKISH 12-05-2016 05:33 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Awesome truck man, looks like a killer start!

jkeating1 12-05-2016 05:54 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
This is a nice puzzle! There should be a serial number located on the left front body hinge pillar with 10 digits (a letter, 2 numbers, a letter, 6 numbers. The engine number should have 7 digits (3 letters-4 numbers).

As far as the trim code and paint code, I don't have the codes assigned to them, only the available color choices. Just looking at the firewall and what paint is left on the cab etc, I would say it was built Jet Black, which would have had an Argent Silver pinstripe. Of course, the GMC bed was blue apparently.

NeoJuice 12-05-2016 06:16 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STOCKISH (Post 7787705)
Awesome truck man, looks like a killer start!

Thank you.

NeoJuice 12-05-2016 06:21 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkeating1 (Post 7787724)
This is a nice puzzle! There should be a serial number located on the left front body hinge pillar with 10 digits (a letter, 2 numbers, a letter, 6 numbers. The engine number should have 7 digits (3 letters-4 numbers).

As far as the trim code and paint code, I don't have the codes assigned to them, only the available color choices. Just looking at the firewall and what paint is left on the cab etc, I would say it was built Jet Black, which would have had an Argent Silver pinstripe. Of course, the GMC bed was blue apparently.

On the VIN tag were I posted the other information above I looked at my 10 digit serial number its all numbers, it has no letters LOL. Engine code is listed above.

Ya looking at the pictures closer, you are probably right that the truck was black which has turned into a bluey green on the cab to match the blue/green GMC box. Its hard to remember because it's sitting covered up in storage and just going by looking at the pictures. :(

jkeating1 12-05-2016 08:52 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
My bad--that was the US serial number protocol. Yours is probably:
3--indicating 1953
1--indicating Chevrolet
4--indicating 1430
2--indicating 125 1/4" wheelbase (or 3 if it was 137"; 4 if 161")
3--indicating "cab" (as opposed to panel, suburban, or specialty eq)
The remaining numbers are the production line sequence of the truck

NeoJuice 12-06-2016 12:19 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkeating1 (Post 7787873)
My bad--that was the US serial number protocol. Yours is probably:
3--indicating 1953
1--indicating Chevrolet
4--indicating 1430
2--indicating 125 1/4" wheelbase (or 3 if it was 137"; 4 if 161")
3--indicating "cab" (as opposed to panel, suburban, or specialty eq)
The remaining numbers are the production line sequence of the truck

Now this is interesting. My serial number starts with 21433. So that means it was a 52 Chevrolet, 1430 series, 137" wheel base, with a truck cab. I was told it was a 53 and the bill of sale says 53. I believe it hasn't been registered at all or in a forever timeline so I should be good there I hope.

jkeating1 12-06-2016 11:57 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
It does seem to be a '52 cab and clip. The '53 designation by the previous owner may have originated from the year of the frame, if he knew it to be from a '53.

Prior to 1980 there was little or no VIN standardization, so I doubt that the registration office would even know if it was supposed to be a '52 or '53. If it was mine, I would attempt to make the registration concur with the number on the plate on the cab. (by the way--please double check the information I posted as far as what the year model is. I believe it was a credible source, but cross-check me on that).

NeoJuice 12-06-2016 12:04 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkeating1 (Post 7788443)
It does seem to be a '52 cab and clip. The '53 designation by the previous owner may have originated from the year of the frame, if he knew it to be from a '53.

Prior to 1980 there was little or no VIN standardization, so I doubt that the registration office would even know if it was supposed to be a '52 or '53. If it was mine, I would attempt to make the registration concur with the number on the plate on the cab. (by the way--please double check the information I posted as far as what the year model is. I believe it was a credible source, but cross-check me on that).

You do make a good point. Maybe the frame was from a 53. But like I mentioned above, my serial number starts with a 2.

These links verifies what you said above. The bottom link also has the TRIM and BODY SERIAL information.
http://www.oldgmctrucks.com/page0396.html
http://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/...&Number=839480

I don't believe it will be an issue with the registration office either. But I would like the information about my truck to be as accurate as possible. Now I might have to change my project name on the page LOL.

northern 49 12-07-2016 01:39 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
My truck is kinda the same thing. It's a '49 1433 cab on what I believe is a '52 1300 frame. The previous owner wasn't too sure what year the frame was because when he got it, it had no cab or drive train. He had it pieced together with the drive train outta the '49. Now it's shaping up to be much like yours.

NeoJuice 12-07-2016 11:59 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by northern 49 (Post 7789215)
My truck is kinda the same thing. It's a '49 1433 cab on what I believe is a '52 1300 frame. The previous owner wasn't too sure what year the frame was because when he got it, it had no cab or drive train. He had it pieced together with the drive train outta the '49. Now it's shaping up to be much like yours.

I think pretty much every AD truck on this forum is pieced together like ours LOL. Do you know if the frames had serial numbers? then we would actually know what year it was off of.

jkeating1 12-07-2016 12:18 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
That's good information on Stovebolt regarding the 394 Trim code being Brown Leatherette. I have not seen a guide on trim codes anywhere.

What I have seen on the paint code is that RPO 234 is the code for "optional color". Could be any of the 11 optional paint colors. The "standard" color was Juniper Green. If the dealer or customer didn't specify an option (and pay more, I assume) the truck came dark green. If anyone has one of those trucks that was Juniper Green originally, I'd be interested to know what paint code (or none) is on the tag.

I have yet to see a way to tell which of the optional colors an AD would have been built with. Again--if you run across that info please post it.

It's interesting that there is no Regular Production Option listed for the pinstripe, which leads me to believe every '53 had a cab pinstripe as standard equipment. Every color has a corresponding pinstripe color listed. Even the standard Juniper Green would have had a Medium Cream stripe.

NeoJuice 12-07-2016 12:30 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkeating1 (Post 7789460)
That's good information on Stovebolt regarding the 394 Trim code being Brown Leatherette. I have not seen a guide on trim codes anywhere.

I did a ton of google searches and that is the only mention of the TRIM code. I've yet to find any kind of guide online either.

jkeating1 12-07-2016 12:42 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoJuice (Post 7789435)
...Do you know if the frames had serial numbers? then we would actually know what year it was off of.

Forgive my multiple posts, but as with the paint, trim, etc.--the frame part of the equation is interesting to me, as I am at the stage of looking for a frame as well.

I can't find any indication that they stamped serial numbers on the frame. The only things I've seen so far is that you can tell a '47-'53 from a '54-'55.1. You can also tell a GMC from a Chevrolet.

Here's a photo-comparison:

http://www.oldchevytrucks.com/blog/i...assis-1947-55/

NeoJuice 12-07-2016 01:41 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkeating1 (Post 7789480)
Forgive my multiple posts, but as with the paint, trim, etc.--the frame part of the equation is interesting to me, as I am at the stage of looking for a frame as well.

I can't find any indication that they stamped serial numbers on the frame. The only things I've seen so far is that you can tell a '47-'53 from a '54-'55.1. You can also tell a GMC from a Chevrolet.

Here's a photo-comparison:

http://www.oldchevytrucks.com/blog/i...assis-1947-55/

That is a very interesting article. Thank you for sharing.

northern 49 12-08-2016 12:47 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoJuice (Post 7789435)
I think pretty much every AD truck on this forum is pieced together like ours LOL. Do you know if the frames had serial numbers? then we would actually know what year it was off of.

Yeah I guess you're right most of these trucks are mutts. As far as I know there was no serial numbers on the frame. You can narrow it down a bit if the frame is still carrying some of the original parts. Such as 47 and 48 had under bed gas tanks friction shocks and huck style drum breaks and I believe a single rear cab mount. 49 had in cab tank with huck style breaks, 50 they changed to bendix style drum breaks and tube shocks. The beds had nine boards on the floor up to 51 then I believe they changed eight boards 52 and 53. Break line routing and master cylinders changed throughout aswell. This is all stuff I learned after I bought my truck about 3 and a half years ago and may not be 100 percent accurate, so if anyone wishes to chime in that's fine. I also couldn't credit the sources of this info either because it's been a while. The trivial crap I can remember but I can't remember why I walked to my toolbox:smoke:

84blaze 12-10-2016 01:10 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Looking forward to seeing this truck on the road this summer!!

I'm also in the Edmonton area and I'm currently building a 49 5 window on a S10 chassis. I've been at a stand sill due to the cold snap we've been in the last couple weeks.

You have a great head start. Looking forward to more progress pictures!

robozride 12-10-2016 06:26 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Seems like a great deal to me! what an excellent start, all of the hard work is done. should be able to hit your budget and have some serious equity! have you seen what people are paying for good quality patina AD's on Ebay? its crazy

NeoJuice 12-11-2016 02:39 AM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robozride (Post 7792541)
Seems like a great deal to me! what an excellent start, all of the hard work is done. should be able to hit your budget and have some serious equity! have you seen what people are paying for good quality patina AD's on Ebay? its crazy

I've watched some patina AD trucks go on eBay for crazy money. My truck will be just a fun patina cruiser. A lot of the eBay trucks are on air ride but I'm hoping to ride as low as possible in comfort.

I just got my Xmas bonus so I got that money set aside for the truck. I figure if the money isn't coming out of my pocket the better :) Now I just need to get into the new house so I can get it into my new man cave. I can't wait!!!!

NeoJuice 03-07-2017 12:06 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Well it's official on Saturday March 4th I was able to finally get the truck home. I have some pictures to upload but my ISP shutdown there web services the other day.

Where are you guys hosting all your images? As you can see on my page 1 all my images are X's.

Also, how do you edit your initial post so I can fix the picture links once I find a new host?

NeoJuice 03-08-2017 06:04 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Hello,

Going to try and use google photos from now on. As you can see the day we moved the truck we had about 8" of snow. Wasn't to cold but the snow was sure coming down.

Fits in the garage pretty good. Got about 3 1/2 feet on either side and about 4 feet in the rear for my work bench and tool box. If I need to move the truck out I can just move it forward into my parking spot in the garage.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ry...oIr0D-=s720-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5o...=w1120-h720-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_D...A=w968-h810-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qs...=w1062-h810-no

NeoJuice 03-10-2017 02:04 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoJuice (Post 7880248)
Hello,

Going to try and use google photos from now on. As you can see the day we moved the truck we had about 8" of snow. Wasn't to cold but the snow was sure coming down.

Fits in the garage pretty good. Got about 3 1/2 feet on either side and about 4 feet in the rear for my work bench and tool box. If I need to move the truck out I can just move it forward into my parking spot in the garage.

Well Google Photos didn't work. Lets try photobucket.

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...psdi8fb88f.jpg
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...psitwyahah.jpg
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps4wncfyg0.jpg
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps9ul7tozy.jpg

NeoJuice 03-13-2017 12:20 PM

Re: 1953 Project 1433
 
Little update.

This weekend I got the truck all jacked up and up on crib blocks. All the tires are off now and its high enough to get under there with my creeper.

Upon further inspection, the front end is TCI but an older version it looks like because of the different upper control arm design. Also got a little bit closer look at the rear end. The only parts there are the rotors that were painted black along when the frame was painted.

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...psawei0onj.jpg
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http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...psr1qdcezv.jpg
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