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chevyman10 02-24-2013 03:56 PM

1965 C-10 - Sleeping Beauty
 
My dad (Chevy_man5) and I went to look at a truck yesterday. She ended up coming home with us.

It's a 1965 C-10 LWB. Not sure yet if it is a 230 or a 250. Granny 4 speed transmission.

The P.O. said that they were driving it two weeks ago, but we had a hard time getting it started. It was way out of time. Finally after messing with it for a while, we got it started.

We made it 33 of the 52 miles home, before it started overheating. Hooked a tow strap on it and drug it home, in the dark. No heat made a cold ride home!

This morning we took a bunch of pictures, and got it parked properly on the street, so we don't get a ticket.

My dad will post some pictures later.

PoDuck 02-24-2013 04:10 PM

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Welcome to the forum. It will be nice to see the pics.

As I'm always the pessimist, I hope it's not a blown head gasket or cracked block. That would cause both the running issue, and the overheating issue, and would be much more likely if you look in the radiator and see that it has just water in it.

Usually overheating issues are caused by a leak or stuck closed thermostat. My mind runs to the worst because of the multiple problems, and usually when one point of failure can cause all the noticed problems, that seems to be what it is normally.

aerotruk63 02-24-2013 04:14 PM

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Welcome,

Hope your motors OK. Inlines are cheap to buy if not.

chevy_man5 02-24-2013 04:50 PM

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We filled the radiator, and fired it back up again this morning. Drove back down the street and back.

I think it is timing problems still, as well as needing a carb rebuild badly.

Here are the pictures.

chevy_man5 02-24-2013 04:51 PM

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More pictures.

chevy_man5 02-24-2013 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PoDuck (Post 5909950)
Welcome to the forum. It will be nice to see the pics.

As I'm always the pessimist, I hope it's not a blown head gasket or cracked block. That would cause both the running issue, and the overheating issue, and would be much more likely if you look in the radiator and see that it has just water in it.

Usually overheating issues are caused by a leak or stuck closed thermostat. My mind runs to the worst because of the multiple problems, and usually when one point of failure can cause all the noticed problems, that seems to be what it is normally.

The oil is black and dirty, no foam or "chocolate milk" LOL and the antifreeze was still nice and green. We had no heat in the cab either, so my first thought is the thermostat. We will play with it some more soon, and start figuring it all out.

PoDuck 02-24-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy_man5 (Post 5910033)
The oil is black and dirty, no foam or "chocolate milk" LOL and the antifreeze was still nice and green. We had no heat in the cab either, so my first thought is the thermostat. We will play with it some more soon, and start figuring it all out.

Well, my fears are at ease. No heat in the cab isn't caused by the thermostat though. Water circulates through the heater core even with the thermostat closed. That means you may have a water valve not open, a bad water pump, a blockage in the heater core, or the water level started out so low that by the time it heated up any, all your coolant had simply become steam, which doesn't tend to pump through heater cores very well.

Grizz1963 02-24-2013 05:09 PM

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THAT.........

Says it all.

Congratulations.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1361739081

63 Spud 02-24-2013 05:35 PM

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Congrats on the new ride.:metal: Have you checked yet for all the cool stuff like :is the build sheet under the seat? What was it's original color? If the engine is original it would be the 230.

chevy_man5 02-24-2013 05:54 PM

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PoDuck, the blower motor isn't working, and between the holes in the floor, and no seals on the floor vents, it may have been warm, but we were not able to feel it. LOL

Spud 63 it does have the build sheet behind the seat. It is the original white. I found a story online that said the 250 had a dual groove pully on the crank and the 230 only had a single. I havent had time to find more info about it.
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chevy_man5 02-24-2013 05:55 PM

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Grizz, he is a happy boy for sure!!
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KroAutomotiveInc 02-24-2013 06:24 PM

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sweet man cant wait to see that baby all cleaned up looks like the fenders rockers and cab corners are in pretty nice shape and as for the motor my 230 has a org double pully but if you look in the truck under the dash driver side over by the vent it will have the tag telling you the motor and the hp at a set rpm for the turck.

also if that carb gives your trouble past one rebuild throw it in the trash and get a 2bbl i messed with my org one bbl rodsucker forever before deciding it was just worn out.

Big Fenders 02-24-2013 06:28 PM

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Great father -son project...
Bob

gulfcoast66 02-24-2013 06:29 PM

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Good looking truck......
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bubba327 02-25-2013 12:14 AM

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Nice score. I hoped you would find a truck that suited you..
Now get to work on it:chevy:
I am betting the heater core may be plugged up
are you keeping the 230???

Captainfab 02-25-2013 01:43 AM

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I agree :thumbs:

Welcome to the forum :D

Congrats on the new truck. Without the blower motor working, you won't feel any heat in the cab. If you put your hands on both heater hoses and if they are both warm, you will have coolant running thru the heater core.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizz1963 (Post 5910056)
THAT.........

Says it all.

Congratulations.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1361739081


Zane M 02-25-2013 11:52 AM

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Congrats!

piratexpress1369a 02-25-2013 12:09 PM

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you have that sh*t eating grin on your face ..nice find ..enjoy

chevy_man5 02-25-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KroAutomotiveInc (Post 5910130)
sweet man cant wait to see that baby all cleaned up looks like the fenders rockers and cab corners are in pretty nice shape and as for the motor my 230 has a org double pully but if you look in the truck under the dash driver side over by the vent it will have the tag telling you the motor and the hp at a set rpm for the turck.

also if that carb gives your trouble past one rebuild throw it in the trash and get a 2bbl i messed with my org one bbl rodsucker forever before deciding it was just worn out.


Thanks Kro. Debating on a rebuild, or replacement. There is the typical rust. Holes in the floor both passenger and drivers. The fender holes and the door holes have been filled with fiberglass, so not sure if we should leave it for now, or pull it to prevent further damage. I was looking at that tag, but not in detail. I'll have to look again.


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Originally Posted by Big Fenders (Post 5910137)
Great father -son project...
Bob

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulfcoast66 (Post 5910138)
Good looking truck......
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Thanks Big Fenders and Gulfcoast. It is an awesome first rig for him!

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Originally Posted by bubba327 (Post 5910875)
Nice score. I hoped you would find a truck that suited you..
Now get to work on it:chevy:
I am betting the heater core may be plugged up
are you keeping the 230???


Thanks Bubba, you are are local go to guy on this engine now!!

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Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 5911006)
I agree :thumbs:

Welcome to the forum :D

Congrats on the new truck. Without the blower motor working, you won't feel any heat in the cab. If you put your hands on both heater hoses and if they are both warm, you will have coolant running thru the heater core.


Thanks Captain. We will have to let it warm up again and check that.

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Originally Posted by Zane M (Post 5911470)
Congrats!


Thanks Zanes Mom, we will have fun with it.

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Originally Posted by piratexpress1369a (Post 5911504)
you have that sh*t eating grin on your face ..nice find ..enjoy

Pirate, after the cold ride home, he was so jazzed, he was out in the dark and cold working on trying to fix the tail light. LOL I was totally surprised that the next morning I didn't find him bundled up in some blankets sleeping in the cab.

chevy_man5 02-25-2013 06:41 PM

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Here is a short video of it running taken yesterday morning.


dantimdad 02-25-2013 06:44 PM

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Nice truck!

Take some close ups of the rear bumper and post on the dealer bumper thread please!

Steven

KroAutomotiveInc 02-25-2013 07:08 PM

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Is that power steering i see? and as for rebuild, or replacement depending on the cash flow with a little tune up that motors ready for some more miles my inline is pushing 30 more k to the org 110k it had after a few hundred dollar tune up.

Also whats your plan or vision on her Brennin stock lowered, paint scheme?

chevyman10 02-26-2013 09:08 AM

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I don't want to lower it I also want to keep the bed original and keep it white with black pinstripes.

rbonitz 02-26-2013 10:05 AM

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Cool Truck.... Reminds me of my high school truck - a '52 Willys 4WD pulled from a farmers field. This was 1976 or so, so it was much newer than yours at the time.

Looking forward to hearing your progress.
Ray

chevy_man5 02-26-2013 11:57 AM

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Just realized that I had gotten sidetracked and didn't finish with the pictures.

chevy_man5 02-26-2013 11:59 AM

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Last batch for now.

Dub_X 02-26-2013 12:20 PM

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Nice find. Will definitely make a good project truck and daily driver once it's done. Nothing better than father/son bonding over a truck build!
Don't be too rough on him Jason! :lol:

quest 02-26-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chevyman10 (Post 5909914)
My dad (Chevy_man5) and I went to look at a truck yesterday. She ended up coming home with us.

It's a 1965 C-10 LWB. Not sure yet if it is a 230 or a 250. Granny 4 speed transmission.

The P.O. said that they were driving it two weeks ago, but we had a hard time getting it started. It was way out of time. Finally after messing with it for a while, we got it started.

We made it 33 of the 52 miles home, before it started overheating. Hooked a tow strap on it and drug it home, in the dark. No heat made a cold ride home!

This morning we took a bunch of pictures, and got it parked properly on the street, so we don't get a ticket.

My dad will post some pictures later.

Looks like a great start for a project! That would be a 292 engine I believe. with pwr steering nice! Good luck should be lots of fun!
There is actually a lot of stuff online for a performance build up of that engine, it's very popular, I was surprised to see that when I started reading about mine!

chevy_man5 02-26-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by quest (Post 5914235)
Looks like a great start for a project! That would be a 292 engine I believe. with pwr steering nice! Good luck should be lots of fun!
There is actually a lot of stuff online for a performance build up of that engine, it's very popular, I was surprised to see that when I started reading about mine!

I wish it was the 292! That would be even better. The engine mounts are straight across from each other, the side covers are the short ones, and the fuel pump is in the front, so it is either the 230 or the 250. I'm betting on the 230. I looked at the plate on the kick panel, and the 250 wasn't listed, so more than likely it is the 230.

The power steering is nice. It works great too!

chevy_man5 02-26-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dub_X (Post 5914045)
Nice find. Will definitely make a good project truck and daily driver once it's done. Nothing better than father/son bonding over a truck build!
Don't be too rough on him Jason! :lol:

A little tuning and some tweaking, and it'll be a DD soon Will.

He's a good kid, and when working on the trucks, actually listens, so I'll be easy on him! LOL

quest 02-26-2013 02:40 PM

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Oh my mistake I thought the valve cover looked like the 292 which seems it usually goes with the 4 spd.

chevy_man5 02-26-2013 03:24 PM

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No worries Quest!

Looks like you have a fun project of your own!

Dub_X 02-26-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy_man5 (Post 5914257)
A little tuning and some tweaking, and it'll be a DD soon Will.

He's a good kid, and when working on the trucks, actually listens, so I'll be easy on him! LOL

Always nice to see old trucks back on the road. :lol: At least he listens. I didn't when I was a teenager. :haha:
How's the '60 comin?

chevy_man5 02-26-2013 03:30 PM

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The '60 is slowly... and not so surely making progress.

Master cylinder started puking fluid in the cab, all of the driveline seals need replaced, and the clutch plates exploded all over, so she is sitting for a bit. New master should be here tomorrow. I ordered it planning on putting it in this weekend, but now we have other things to play with!

It's nice spending his money to get to play! LOL

KroAutomotiveInc 02-26-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chevyman10 (Post 5913680)
I don't want to lower it I also want to keep the bed original and keep it white with black pinstripes.

nice choice cant wait to see her come together if i had another chance at a 2wd i wouldn't lower it ether!

PAPA KENT 02-26-2013 08:55 PM

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these kinds of stories and the great smirk on your son's face is just another thing that makes this forum fun!

thanks for the pictures and the story.

kent.

Zane'sMom 02-26-2013 11:53 PM

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Nothing like a project like this to keep a young man smiling and out of trouble! Have fun!

ljackson 02-27-2013 08:25 AM

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Great father and son project. Nice truck. A lot better shape than the one my son and I started with a few years ago. You two will have a great time and he will actually talk to you instead of just playing video games. So much more here than transportation.:)

chevy_man5 02-27-2013 08:31 AM

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When time and funds allowed, we have been working on my '60, and been having a great time with that, so the good times should continue with this one. Possibly even better times, because the '65 is LOTS further along, and will be easier to get on the road and play with.
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chevy_man5 02-28-2013 03:45 PM

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Ok, so I know less than nothing about Rochester Carbs. I think that is what this is. It looks like the Type "B". How can I confirm that?

Anything specific we should be watching for or doing while dissassembling and reassembling the carb?


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