1969 Custom/10 clean up
I purpously won't call it an restauration, because that commits me to getting the car in showroom condition :)
No, I just want to get rid of the rust, upgrade the brakes to disks, clean up the cab and bed and drive it like I stole it! here is my first piece of progress, the front end of a '73 Blazer 2wd, should fit like a glove. http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-TKCOJHHO.jpg It barely fitted into my A4 audi http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-Z3DLU7LC.jpg It took 4 of us to lift it in and out of the car http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-AKFF3NZA.jpg Master cylinder with booster and steering rods(?) (sorry, not sure what it's called in english) http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-WKMAC67X.jpg Safety first! Belts for the wife and seat for my 2month old boy |
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here are some pics so you can see what state the cab is in now...
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-6KAGG8LH.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-NINHGGNC.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-VKBZVEXD.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-ULWQ7TAD.jpg and my little garden in the bed... http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-N74WT3AJ.jpg |
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Looks like you have some work ahead of you.. Be sure to take pics!
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Welcome to the board that cab is gonna need some work..
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So after a busy and cold dutch winter, I'm going to get started with the project with a big leap. A mate from Riverside, CA. dropped me an email to inform me he had bought a cab for me!! it's from a 70's C10 and it has no rust. So all I have to do is sand blast it and paint!
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Hey from N.C. & welcome,keep pictures coming & keep on truckin'' :metal:
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last weekend I organized a grease monkey/ smoker BBQ session and invited some friends over for my front end swap.
first we had to deal with some bolts that were grinded off on the '73 crossmember, but fortunatly they didn't give us any trouble. http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-SHEAYBG4.jpg then we took of the headers and found the were mounted with the original 6 sided bolts instead of the Allen bolts (hope you know what I mean, i have to use an online translater to find some words :) ) this told me whoever put them on had to use a open ended spanner to tighten them..hence the leakage.. we were smiled upon again, because also they came out without any hassle. I had told my friends I would spray WD40 on all the bolts and nuts of the crossmember earlier that week, so it would come off easily..ofcourse I hadden't and when it was time to unbolt it, I attended to my smoker to check on the meat :) When I heard a scream I assumed it was because of a rounded or broken off bolt...but no, it was because it was laying down on the ground already. happily I accepted all compliments on my good preparation, but actually I was wondering why the bolts came out so easily... It's a law in automotive mechanics..when everything seems to be according to plan, the **** hits the fan! the '73 crossmember fits like a glove, but some of the holes didn't line up, so I widened up 2 holes and have to drill 2 new ones, but I'll do that when the crossmember is in place. I found out the the widened holes still are not correct, so we'll have to take it down one more time :( . the arrows show the holes not lining up http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-RM38N3YB.jpg Yeah..diskbrakes! http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-MNDYDJ3C.jpg the '73 has a sway bar, the '69 didn't..so where to mount?? http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-ISOWPCLC.jpg That's what we call a 10 pound brisket! http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-OGOJP8DL.jpg That's what we call Texas style smoked brisket! http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-LQ3R4RJM.jpg 2 of my friends took their Harleys along, a roadking and a fatboy (sounds like the title of a B-movie :) http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-JGC7X4WH.jpg Here a picture of my mate in Riverside Ca. he has the new cab for my truck. bothe he and his brother drive a '69 C10 http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-H4KZ4J4R.jpg he uses it for the heavy lifting :) 2000 pounds of roof tiling!! http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-FF3L4D3E.jpg more updates soon! |
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That new cab sure looks like it will save ya some rust work..
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Cool :metal: keep on truckin""
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What did it cost to ship that cab? Must have been big money.
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Yesterday had an hour to quickly work on my truck. took off the shocks because I need to replace them anyway and the were rattling about... guess the pictures are clear enough to show why, the nut almost fits though that hole. saw on LMC that the sell shock reinforcement brackets, guess I'll have to get me some of those..or weld something together myself.
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-TABCRQGO.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-TONTEZNA.jpg I'll have to unbolt the crossmember on more time because were the back bolt goes through, the front one locks up as soon as I tighten the 3 bolts from underneath http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-OR3EE6LB.jpg Also I took the swaybar off, because it was only hanging about. will have to figure something out for that aswell. |
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as the evenings become longer and the temp goes up I decided to dive under the truck for a quicky....(?!)
As I dropped the crossmember to drill out the front holes a bit more I decided to clean it up a bit. 1 can of brakecleaner and a stealbrush later it looks a bit better. now I'll hose it down with "tectiel" (I guess its a kind of Boeshield, a black thick spray rust inhibator). doesn't have to be showroom condition, just need to get through the next M.O.T. http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-XHZAPEQH.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-GNTVB3BM.jpg |
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another day in paradise!
finally found time again to do the last bit for the front end, realining the holes. ans presto! it fits, so now on to the next stage: brakebooster with master cilinder, brakelines and hoses.. hopefully this will all result in a truck that'll stop when I tell it to :) http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-RTQHEDIR.jpg |
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Saterday I picked up my new mastercilinder with brakebooster and as always when lookings are looking up, the sh*t hits the fan. My old master cilinder came off without any problems, but then I realised that it was bolted onto studs and the brakebooster also has studs..
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-87RLIAEA.jpg first of all I can't make out from my service/repair manual where those studs are connecting on the inside of the cabin and second of all, I think it will not fit because of the steering colom bolt (cirkeled in picture) http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-HFIKI4FM.jpg I've tried making an picture from the inside to see where I should be drilling or whatever to make it fit, but I'm clueless. did I in fact circle the stud connection on the inside or is it somewhere else? http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-8KO37G86.jpg who has experience making and '71 brakebooster fit on a '69 any help is highly appeciated!! |
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Ahh I should google before asking :)
I see there are brackets for this conversion. which to use and where to order the correct ones? I have a friend who's quite good with welding, I'll check with him as well. |
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Here is what it should look like.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...9/100_0528.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...9/100_0529.jpg |
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Ok, bracket ia underway, so as soon as that comes in I can finalize the brakes. but I have one question; look at the below picture and tell me if this is an Proportioning valve or a distribution block?
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-KQPNG6CQ.jpg Do I still want to use it now I have discs in the front? and how do you bleed it, or is that not necessary? |
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It is a proportioning valve you will need one that is for disk brakes. I also found out that there are 2 different boosters a Bendix and a Delco there is 1/2" difference in the bolt pattern I found out by getting the wrong one the first time luckily Auto Zone took the first back. You will also need the Master cylinder for disk brakes. The bracket I sent you is for a Bendix booster
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Here's an update with some pictures.
Time is an issue for me, between my work and family there is hardly any time left to muck around with my truck..I hope it'll improve as my son gets older :) good news, my new cab is on its way. being shipped over from LA to Rotterdam it'll take 6 weeks to arrive, and then we'll take it over to a friends place who has a big garage were we can do the swap. have been tinkering with the brakes a bit, got the bracket and it fits, so all i had to do is get the brake rod to fit between the bracket and the lever. got a mate who welded a ring on it, so I should be able to install it this weekend... http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-NNDNUSPW.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-4FMQYP6D.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-E8PP8SZW.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-G4SEI4OQ.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-VLW6GLKQ.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-CYKJPECQ.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-P73O4IZ3.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-HVRE3SWJ.jpg |
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Ahh spacers! that'll do the trick :)
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Glad to see the booster bracket worked for you nice work
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and a big thank you to you Frankie!
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I didn't want to keep you from this update, although pictures will follow next week.
The eagle has landed! the cab is now sitting in a storage area in Roosendaal (the south of holland) ready to be picked up. I'll have to take a day off next week together with a mate to go collect it. all and all, so with taxes, handling and admin cost it comes down to $600,- we'll take it over to a garage we have to check it out and plan the next step; sanding or blasting.. seeing I don't care for cosmetics I say: blast it, then put some industrial grade epoxy primer on it and fling some paint at it. it's a truck, all I want is that it doesn't rust :) but my mate said that if I blast it I will have to re-kit al the welds..but what is the kit for anyway? is it because everything is spot welded and you have to close off all the creases? |
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Not sure what he means by a kit either but I know if it is done to aggressively it can warp the metal. Do they do soda blasting over there ? Don't know much about it but I think it is easier on the metal.
i found this link hope it helps http://www.sodablasting.gr/en/the-co.../item/3-gritco |
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Hi Steve,
If you blast off the kit and not re-kit the welds water will crawl between the panels and they will rot. Also if you use industrial grade grit to blast the cab chance is high you will blast a hole in the metal. That's it how agressive it is. Especially the roof is fragile for heavy sandblasting.. You can also use glasparels of pindadoppen, or call a firm like straalbedrijf Warmerdam in Hillegom to inform about the costs if they do it for you.... good luck, Steve Sorry for the comments with some dutch words guys.. |
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[img removed due to login error] And the stuff i think of blasting with is glasspearls http://www.wikor.nl/images/blasting_...beads5b15d.gif |
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but back on topic, the pick up of the cabin has been posponed by a week. we were going next wednesday, but I've got some seminars where I have to attend so we'll be going the wednesday after that, so the 14th. (must be good seeing my house nr. is 14...) |
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Wednesday we rented a truck and set out to Marlog Carhandling in Roosendaal, in the south of Holland to pick up my cabine which had cleared customs and all the paperwork was done. when we finally arrived there (for us 2,5h drive is far far away) we saw some beauties being brought in from the motherland
a (for dutch standards) BIG Winnebego with some work :) http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-BTADRMWM.jpg a truck loaded with toys, mostly Cali plates: http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-B73KA8WQ.jpg in the warehouse there was some more: http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-EMO3XVS4-1.jpg but this is what it's all about!!: http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-S4TV6B3Z.jpg A bit dirty, but no rust! I was a bit in a hurry, because we're in Poland now to celebrate xmas. so detailed pics will follow. |
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I have heard a lot of classics are going over seas. So much for Europeans liking small cars. My son is stationed in Aviano Italy they had his Harley Road King and Volvo 4x4 wagon sent over he said he would of been in trouble it they would if brought his Ford Excursion over there with the roads in some of the town being so narrow.
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so far the weather update from the Netherlands :), here's some close up pics of the cab. it has some dents and bruses, but nothing major...atleast I'd like to think so. http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-VCZZHQX3.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-DVEINQDY.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-C4NZ3KMZ.jpg http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-R4DQ6GNN.jpg |
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I dosen't look like it will take more than a little massaging should take care of it
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Sunday I decided to empty out the cab so when time permits I can get it glasspearl blasted. What I found was 1 american cedar pencil and a penny..but no rust!! well, there is 1 little spot, but I cant be worried about it to much.
little bit of surfice rust under the hinges http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-6ZVE76KG.jpg Can corners...hard (I thought this would be the most likely place to find rust) http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-6CXDHNIY.jpg the only spot of rust where you punch through the metal http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-LGVADHQP.jpg nothing above the window (check earlier picks to see how my current cab looks..hahahaha http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-3YZFS4SH.jpg rocker panel 1 hard http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-O7QSYURN.jpg rocker panel 2 hard too http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-HJ83UVHC.jpg the VIN is a bit unclear to me, I see it's a GMC, 2wd, V8, 3/4 ton, but then the number shows 41, which I cannot link to any model..was it a stock camper buildup? http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-NCW3SNI6.jpg further more I finally found the correct Allen bolts (we only sell metric sizes in this country) for my headers and orders new brake hozes. I'll pick those up and inmediatly take a couple of yards of brake lines. all I can hope for now is that the coming weekend will bring nice enough weather to work outside. |
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So to get the truck to the place where we're going to do the cabine swap, it first needs to run..an have it's M.O.T. (I know they call it that in the UK, not sure if you have that in the states?) or safety inspection.
Sunday I wanted to get my headers back on, but somehow the new '73 front end is bigger, or just a little in a different spot because my headers wouldn't fit anymore! the collector is up againt the front-end and there is already a dent in them. http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-BQXPUI6S.jpg so to get them to fit, i would have to almost flatten the nr. 2 pipe..which is not an option. I'm now looking at 2 possibilities; either replace them with stock manifolds..which somehow are hard to come by second hand here in Netherlands..or reweld my headers. Coming saterday I'm taking the headers over to a mate who has a TIG welder and knowledge of welding stainless steel. keep your fingers crossed. |
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I put a 72 crossmember on my 70 and the new headers fit fine a little close in the right side but didn't hit anything According to Summit they should fit 67 to 74. These are the ones I bought ( http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SU...UP&prefilter=1 ).
If you can find another 73 measure from the motor mount to the back of the cross member but if your motor mounts bolted up some thing else might be wrong. Check the motor mounts make sure one didn't collapse or soft. Here are some pix of mine. http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...0/DSC00831.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...0/DSC00830.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...0/DSC01136.jpg |
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