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westgl 01-18-2012 12:15 AM

67' C10 Build V8 Conversion & 700r4 trans
 
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I am starting the build/conversion of my 67',

From: a 250ci I6 engine & three speed Manual trans.
To: 350ci V8, Vortec Heads, among other parts

Along the way i will be upgrading and converting various systems that will be needed to make this conversion into a balanced vehicle, that could be a daily driver.
I will be lowering the truck and changing to different rims/tires.

Here are a few pictures As it looked Last week

westgl 01-18-2012 12:18 AM

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Those were the before Pic's

Here are some Before pictures also, But with the Shell Off, these were taken today, she is in the shop, waiting for part's that were ordered Yesterday to start trickling in.

Sorry But these pictures are at night, under shop light's and a roll up door was blocking some of the lights so they may be Dark in certain ares of the picture

I still have not washed this truck in over 2 Years.

I did not think that the shell weighed that much, but i drove the truck with the shell off and it seemed much lighter, and it moved better.

Cant wait to double my H.P. & torque

westgl 01-18-2012 12:22 AM

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Here is the intake Manifold & Valve Covers that I was thinking of using

westgl 01-18-2012 12:23 AM

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Well maybe i leave that as wall art in the shop

That came off of a 58' Corvette that i have, you can see the accelerator pedal on the wall too

westgl 01-18-2012 12:27 AM

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Here is a the Engine.

Constructor1 01-18-2012 12:35 AM

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Looks like you have a great project going. I really like those valve covers. Keep us posted on your progress and remember lots of pics.

What kind of bender is that next to your compressor? Do you use it for much? I have a Hossfeld Bender that is collecting dust - wish I could utilize it more.

westgl 01-18-2012 12:40 AM

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Cleaned the shop today to get it ready for the fun to begin.

I guess i could start tearing the front end off for access

westgl 01-18-2012 12:55 AM

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That bender is really nice, I have only played with it, i also bought a tube notcher at the same time.

I am going to build Two Hot rod frame's, after the truck Build.
I also have a 29' T-bucket, steel body & the 58' Vette.

The Hot rods I am going to build, First one will have a very short frame, with a Chevy 250 h.p. 4.3L v6, Radiator in the rear, I have a 72' Complete Corvette IRS.
Key is Short and Light. Narrowed Corvette rear and front suspension. Weight Goal on this is 1500-lbs or less, frame tubes will also be doing double duty as the cooling tube for the rear Radiator

Both will be open Hot Rods

Other hot rod is same concept short and light using a two wheels in front probably either 195-205, and one 275 single rear tire shaft drive, 130 -140h.p. 6 speed trans about 1100lbs, power to weight ratio should be excellent. throttle steer/drift should be easily done

If i have time i may take a picture of that engine trans setup.

If i can remember to i will get a few pics of under the hood for the before pictures

67cheby 01-18-2012 05:33 PM

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great build started , i will watch

westgl 01-18-2012 08:02 PM

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Took some more,

Before pics, of Engine Compartment. (Engine room we need more power captain, BS you better start pedaling there aint no moe).

Stock I6 250ci 140-155h.p. Head was rebuilt two years ago.

Engine runs really good, and has decent power now that that heavy Shell is off her back, stops better too.

westgl 01-18-2012 08:06 PM

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Centerline Wheels has their sales.

I just ordered some Forged Billet Wheels from Centerline Wheels, NICE!!!

67c10rustbuket 01-18-2012 08:08 PM

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Man thats one clean looking body! and one awesome new engine, I like it.

are those hood pins ?

westgl 01-18-2012 08:11 PM

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They are hood Locks, that lock the hood to the frame

westgl 01-18-2012 08:21 PM

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I debating on whether to leave the engine painted Silver,

or paint the engine Chevy Engine Red-Orange.

I wanted it to be a little different, but there is something about those red-orange engines that make my blood boil.

westgl 01-18-2012 08:50 PM

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Here are a few engine pics of the 130-140 h.p. & 130 lbs /ft or torque. power to weight ratio is less than 8 lbs per H.P. Low seat, light weight, narrow, and short.

You dont get a sense of the size of the engine fuel injected, 1800cc, 109c.i. 4.4" bore/Piston (bigger pistons than a 454ci), 5 Speed manual Trans. they claim, it is the largest bore of any Gasoline production Car or motorcycle. It is a very torquey engine with a 7,500 rpm, red line. 4 large valves per cylinder. This engine actually has Two oil pumps.

All in a light weight package.

I bought the crashed bike at auction bike was only a few months old less than 1,800 miles on it.

westgl 01-18-2012 09:10 PM

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sorry for steering off coarse, a couple goldwing converted to Naked bikes, gone are the saddle bags and trunk and Fairing/winshield they are also very short and about 400lbs lighter.

The trike has a Narrowed, 2006 mustang GT 8.8" rear end, w/disc brakes 3.08 gears posi., That is driveable but need to build the body and finish some of the electrical routing, horns lights, after the body build.
That trike is also a 1800 cc but it is a 6 cylinder and about 115h.p. with 110 lbs ft of torque, twin carbs.

Those are just the project in the shop, I also have a low mile, 2006 Toyota 4runner V6 complete drive train, engine,trans rear end drive shaft, and complete electrical, as another project

Ok no more talk about other projects.

back to trucks

westgl 01-18-2012 09:45 PM

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Hey thanks for the comps, but i have not washed that truck in 2 years,

So, it's not that clean, but yeah, i think it will make a nice one.

That truck was owned by a little old guy, and that truck was his pride and joy.
He really took very good care of it, Garaged always, he was the original owner.

He died and i bought it from his brother, that was selling his stuff.

It had 112,000 original miles when i bought it.

It was converted to a internal volt reg. alternator, Looks like the radiator was replaced with a 4 row that has a Trans cooler in it, even though truck is a manual trans.

westgl 01-19-2012 11:34 PM

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I think i found the wheels I want to use. 17x8 Front, 17x9-1/2 Rear

67c10rustbuket 01-19-2012 11:46 PM

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Thats a nice looking wheel, looks similar to mine. those will looks great on your truck. So is this going to get the short bed treatment ? air bagged ? I like the silver painted engine, never seen one painted silver before, looks clean.

westgl 01-20-2012 12:02 AM

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Well after 2- years i finally wash the darn truck, I didn't get any pics as it was dark and cloudy out, But color is more vibrant and shiny than it was.

It cleaned up very nice and looks much better.

I have been cleaning my shop getting the last few projects cleared out of the way.

I received a UPS Label confirmation that My parts are shipping tomorrow.

I should have them by Monday.

I am going to start taking the 67' apart tomorrow.

The short term Plan;

Pull front end Sheet metal off fenders, inner fenders, Hood, Cowl Cover, Radiator Mount, By Sunday

Get Old Engine and Trans Pulled out of vehicle by Tuesday.

Remove Front Suspension, Clean & ready for primer/paint, by Sunday.

End week one;

Wire brush Frame from Front to Firewall, and ready for Primer/paint by Wednesday

westgl 01-20-2012 12:20 AM

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I think i may leave it as a Long bed.

No air Bags

I will do a 3.5x5" drop

Front Disks

Front 1-1/4" Sway bar

Power brakes

Power Steering

Rebuild Front Suspension

Rebuild Rear suspension

Weld strap/plates on Rear Trailing arms

among other things

I have a lot of parts coming.

I will be using it as a truck, and i would like to have the 8 ft bed.

I do like the look of the longer bed.

But anything can happen during a build, we will have to wait and see.

westgl 01-20-2012 05:45 PM

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I started working on the 67' today, this is how far i got until i hit a snag that stopped me.

Damn Windshield wipers, I cannot get them off

Help?

westgl 01-20-2012 05:48 PM

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I have the front radiator cowl loose and waiting to get the fenders loosened up.

But i cannot get the windshield wipers off the firewall cover below the windshield wiper is loose and ready but i cannot get the windshield wipers off

Crap!! :waah:


Help! anyone know these come off?

westgl 01-20-2012 11:11 PM

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I was able to find a thread on how the windshield wipers are removed.

But they were a real pain in the Bleep!!

PO had painted the splined nut and then put on the windshield wiper so they were glued on with the paint.

I got them wipers off and removed the top firewall cover & the front Fenders too.
I did what i wanted too + some.

Not Bad for the first day.

I would like to get the engine & trans pulled next, maybe I'll have them out by Sunday

westgl 01-21-2012 11:48 PM

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Second Day,

Motor mounts are loose, and I disconnected all life support from the old engine.

All wiring is tagged and out of the way.

here are a few pics

Looks like I may have to rent a pickle fork to get the steering components apart.

mud.man.rj 01-21-2012 11:59 PM

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Nice clean body to start with, I think a long box looks lower than a short box when lowered. On the 700r4 what do you have to do to get it to shift properly, a special harness or is it already built when you bought it with all the right components. I am not sure what to do on an install I have coming up on a 700r4 in a 72 Gm 2wd project.

westgl 01-22-2012 12:13 AM

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My 67' has a I6 250ci with a 3sp manual trans.

Yes it is a very clean truck, that was a one owner truck, previous owner babied it, And since it had a I6 250ci engine, 150h.p. it was not thrashed on.

My 67' Pickup is only 45 years old this year. My 58' Corvette is 54 years old this year.

I think that you need the correct trans mount/crossmember .

The 700r4 is a mech. trans like the turbo 350/400, except a 4speed with lower 1st gear and a 4 gear that provides a higher ratio overdrive gear.

I dont think that there are any electronics, Maybe a Reverse/back up switch.

No electronics until, you get into a 4L80E trans then there are computers.

Setup on cables, throttle, kickdown, shift cable, those all need to be setup properly.

There better not be this is my bug out vehicle, i still need a single point distributor, to setup and store on the shelf just in case.

VA72C10 01-22-2012 01:36 AM

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Nice looking project. The 700R4's are still different because of the kickdown cable you mentioned. If not adjusted properly it'll burn up the transmission in no time (I'm talking days)

mud.man.rj 01-22-2012 03:19 AM

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The truck I am working on has a 3spd also with a 400 small block so changing to an auto should only need crossmenber, but I know from one I did in the past that I needed to have it shift to 4th gear electrically, either with a toggle switch or by rewiring the trans solonoids internally which I did at the time but found out that only the earlier ones could be converted internally not the later ones. So I thought there may be some kind of harness you could purchase but haven't looked into it much yet as am just rebuilding the 400 right now then lowering it with spindles/spring cut and spring and c.notch to the rear first before I get back to the powertrain. Maybe someone will pipe in and help out on this site. Hoping. Thanks.

westgl 01-22-2012 10:55 AM

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Ill have to check on a harness, and the electronically shifted 4th gear.

I am not sure, ill focus on that when it is time to, I guess.

For now the Engine & Trans still needs to get pulled.

Then it off to the front suspension

westgl 01-22-2012 11:09 AM

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I would like to build a Intermittent wiper, Three speed controller, using two adjustable resistor's and a three position lighted switch.

It would be in normal speed in the off position.
Pos. #1 would be slower
Pos. #2 would be even Slower

The adjustable resisters would just reduce voltage to the windshield wiper motor, and that is adjustable to get it at the speed where you want it.

Then once set it gets mounted up under the dash.

Dingfodgy 01-22-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by westgl (Post 5138446)
I would like to build a Intermittent wiper, Three speed controller, using two adjustable resistor's and a three position lighted switch.

It would be in normal speed in the off position.
Pos. #1 would be slower
Pos. #2 would be even Slower

The adjustable resisters would just reduce voltage to the windshield wiper motor, and that is adjustable to get it at the speed where you want it.

Then once set it gets mounted up under the dash.

So they would still be in constant motion- just at a slower speed? Sounds like a timed relay would be the gadget to get you true intermittent wipers. Or you could just spend about $80 and get a new switch with intermittent function built in....check out the link below.
http://newportwipers.com/optacc.php

westgl 01-22-2012 08:10 PM

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Thanks for that Link.

I did not no those were available, I would rather use something that works than to build something.

yes they would still be in motion only moving slower

I forgot to mention a 12Volt adjustable timer delay relay, that would be adjustable as well. That would give you the intermittent adjustment.

westgl 01-23-2012 11:36 PM

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Here is my progress for today.

westgl 01-23-2012 11:38 PM

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How this got out there I'll never know.

Look at that Single barrel Holley carb.

That Engine actually ran really good, just a little under powered

westgl 01-23-2012 11:40 PM

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This was a busy day.

Look what showed up outside my shop today.

9 boxes of parts for the 67'

67c10rustbuket 01-24-2012 12:08 AM

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Its like christmas in january, gotta love the UPS guy. man you are working fast !

Dingfodgy 01-24-2012 12:24 AM

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Great work so far! How'd you like to come up the 5 a few hours and yank my motor and trans out too? ;)

westgl 01-24-2012 01:28 AM

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If anyone needs a 150h.p. three speed paper weight.

zicc1835 01-24-2012 02:23 AM

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I just sold one of those boat anchors :) ....very nice I will be watching and learning from your build I bought a unfinished project 72 Cheyenne original 402 with a rebuilt 700 r4 already installed by PO with a custom throttle valve set up installed I have all the paper work well problem is it has sat for a couple years until P O gave up and I just now have it road worthy and she won't shift so off to my buddy owns trans shop let u know how I make out there anyway good luck I will follow along love those 67s
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