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Dieselwrencher 07-30-2012 06:01 PM

1972 Chevy C20 Longhorn "Factory Dually"
 
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Guys, I saw this on ebay and it is a super nice truck, but it looks fishy to me. I've never seen a factory built dually Longhorn. It could be real, but this thing is too nice to be virgin untouched. I'm thinking parts of this truck have been repainted, mainly the outside and the inside of the bed. The engine looks too nice and has painted exhaust manifolds and doesn't look original. My biggest thing that make the truck appear not OE to me are the wheel tub extensions. I'd think they'd match the OE's by having the crease in them. Maybe this was a conversion truck? What do you guys think? It is still a very nice truck.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...item2c6711b401

Dieselwrencher 07-30-2012 06:02 PM

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More pictures.

Dieselwrencher 07-30-2012 06:21 PM

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Check out the cargo lamp. It looks too far to the left to me.

BLAZERMAN 07-30-2012 06:28 PM

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I posted this truck on the board probably about 8 monthes ago...it has been on EBAY countless times since then. Its not an original dual wheel longhorn...none were ever built that I have seen any evidence of. If you notice nowhere on the SPID does it mention "Dual wheel Conv", even 133" 1 ton C&C trucks that are dual wheel will have this listed on the SPID. If the factory were to have built one I would think they would have started with a C/30 Longhorn and added the "Dual Wheel Conversion"...but like I said I dont believe any were ever built. It is a nice truck though..just not what the saleman is stating!

Bill72 07-30-2012 06:32 PM

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Been for sale for a long long time. SPID does not show the dually conversion. Shows many signs of a restoration. Is it claimed to be a restoration or original paint etc.? Either way it is beautiful.

Blazerman proved he's a much faster typer than me.

terry b 07-30-2012 06:38 PM

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She look's like she could pull.

Joesjunk 07-30-2012 07:13 PM

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Very good looking truck, but not factory. They did a very good job of making it a dually

LockDoc 07-30-2012 07:15 PM

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Fantasy truck. Member 72Freak built one.

LockDoc

70cst 07-30-2012 07:21 PM

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I would call that a tastefully done Tribute truck. :metal:

LockDoc 07-30-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 70cst (Post 5514104)
I would call that a tastefully done Tribute truck. :metal:


You are right about that Dewayne. I would love to build one.

LockDoc

71HUGGER396 07-30-2012 08:16 PM

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Tat'spurty1

doubleb's69 07-30-2012 09:16 PM

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It sure is a clean truck. I like the color combo.

Sicklajoie 07-30-2012 10:19 PM

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I'd love to have that truck in my garage!

ls1nova71 07-31-2012 12:27 AM

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Seems like they spent alot of money on it, but then decided painting the grille surround silver was a good idea???

Steve Hafner 07-31-2012 08:41 AM

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. . . .

Here are a few SPIDS from some dual rear wheel trucks:

1. 68 C-30 ( notice that the option numbers aren't in alphabetical order, like most are )

2. 71 Wrecker

3. 72 with a camper shell

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67ChevyRedneck 07-31-2012 08:46 AM

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The wood bed in the truck is in phenomenal condition, and would have came wih this series truck, but it shows so well, I cannot believe it is original.

I believe that's because it's not original... all original wood beds were painted body color.

It looks like a nicely restored truck to me. I can't imagine a LONGHORN being bought back in the day "when a truck was a truck" and it was never used as a truck?

I also don't see any chalk numbers on the firewall.

It's a little fuzzy, but I also remember something about a lot of overspray being on the underside of original hoods (body color on the black.)

Even if you remove the "low miles unrestored" thing, that's easily a 20K truck. I'd love to have it.

Dieselwrencher 07-31-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck (Post 5515064)
I believe that's because it's not original... all original wood beds were painted body color.

It looks like a nicely restored truck to me. I can't imagine a LONGHORN being bought back in the day "when a truck was a truck" and it was never used as a truck?

I also don't see any chalk numbers on the firewall.

It's a little fuzzy, but I also remember something about a lot of overspray being on the underside of original hoods (body color on the black.)

Even if you remove the "low miles unrestored" thing, that's easily a 20K truck. I'd love to have it.

I agree!

big mike71 07-31-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 5514145)
You are right about that Dewayne. I would love to build one.

LockDoc

I will look forward to seeing it at the 2013 All Truck Nats.

fine69 07-31-2012 07:24 PM

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I love this truck.

Color is awesome.

I could see me towing with this.

He is just a little mis-informed. But what the heck.

It is sweet.

Dieselwrencher 07-31-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fine69 (Post 5515993)
I love this truck.

Color is awesome.

I could see me towing with this.

He is just a little mis-informed. But what the heck.

It is sweet.

Isn't this color called Grape Whine or something like that? It is a really nice color and you don't see it very often.

Mayo 07-31-2012 08:41 PM

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very nice rig, but I prefer it when duallys have the wide fenders.

Dieselwrencher 08-01-2012 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayo (Post 5516132)
very nice rig, but I prefer it when duallys have the wide fenders.

I'm the other way. I think these look the best IMO. Almost tucked in there and it looks mean! :lol:

70K10Hunter 08-01-2012 02:00 AM

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I think it looks *****en, I need one.

70K10Hunter 08-01-2012 02:07 AM

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this is totally a doable build, find a later 74ish up 1ton running gear, if memory serves me well 1tons had the same type front suspension setup as the 2wd trucks, or just use a 1ton chassis and drop the body on it. anyway you slice it, it is cool.

Dieselwrencher 08-01-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 70K10Hunter (Post 5516766)
this is totally a doable build, find a later 74ish up 1ton running gear, if memory serves me well 1tons had the same type front suspension setup as the 2wd trucks, or just use a 1ton chassis and drop the body on it. anyway you slice it, it is cool.

I'd just use the Longhorn chassis because then you don't have to cut and lengthen it.

LockDoc 08-01-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 70K10Hunter (Post 5516766)
this is totally a doable build, find a later 74ish up 1ton running gear, if memory serves me well 1tons had the same type front suspension setup as the 2wd trucks, or just use a 1ton chassis and drop the body on it. anyway you slice it, it is cool.

You have to use the '67 -'71 1 ton (133" wheelbase) chassis to keep the rear wheels inside the bed. If memory serves me correctly the '72 rear was 1 1/2" wider than the earlier ones and the '73 up were even wider than that. You would have to do a lot more modification to build one out of a later frame.

LockDoc

Ozark Tim 08-01-2012 02:11 PM

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Hmmmmmmm, I wonder....
C-30 C&C with 133" wb. Got it!
Just need the longhorn bed, cash and time.
I guess my long term plans arent all that original.
Nice looking and a shame GM didnt make one until 73.

Dieselwrencher 08-01-2012 03:36 PM

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I happen to know where there is a decent Longhorn bed......................... And a Longhorn frame with SRW HO52.....................

Palf70Step 08-01-2012 06:32 PM

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I like it. Not original, but still a very nice looking build.

SS Tim 08-01-2012 06:38 PM

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Actually I like the period conversion style better. But here is a picture of a member's truck with widened tubs for dual wheels. Can't seem to find a quarter view of it in my pictures. Anyone have it or a link?

Dieselwrencher 08-01-2012 06:51 PM

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The Blue one is 72Freak's old truck and the tires are tucked in the bed side. It is a very nice truck and he sold it really reasonable too!

kwmech 08-01-2012 07:49 PM

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To get the duals to fit without fender extensions, a total custom job would have to be fabricated. As in the frame rails would have to be moved inward to clear the inner tire and rim assy. You can see by the pics how far the inner fenders were extended.

Dieselwrencher 08-01-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kwmech (Post 5517991)
To get the duals to fit without fender extensions, a total custom job would have to be fabricated. As in the frame rails would have to be moved inward to clear the inner tire and rim assy. You can see by the pics how far the inner fenders were extended.

That is why you use a cab and chassis dually rear axle. The outer tire barely sticks out. That is how that blue truck is done and the same with this truck in this thread. No frame mods required.

LockDoc 08-01-2012 09:32 PM

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Here are a couple of threads on 72Freaks dually. Ryan is correct, no frame mods required with the C-30 Chassis. Basically all you have to do is widen the tubs and install front bed mount brackets on the frame for the Longhorn bed...

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=260748

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=307114


LockDoc

jwalk 08-01-2012 09:36 PM

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Pretty cool trucks! I was going to put a utility bed on mine, but having a hard time finding one I like. Think I need to cut it down to a long wheel base and put a bed on it! Now if I can just find that straight factory blue paint so I can keep the patina... Yeah right! :lol:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=530720
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kwmech 08-02-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5517996)
That is why you use a cab and chassis dually rear axle. The outer tire barely sticks out. That is how that blue truck is done and the same with this truck in this thread. No frame mods required.

So, you're not using a longhorn frame, you're starting with a flatbed. I've got a 68 longhorn that I did a dually conversion on the rear. the springs do not allow the tires to stuff in that far. Now if you start with a 133'' flatbed, I'm sure that is different

BLAZERMAN 08-02-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kwmech (Post 5518967)
So, you're not using a longhorn frame, you're starting with a flatbed. I've got a 68 longhorn that I did a dually conversion on the rear. the springs do not allow the tires to stuff in that far. Now if you start with a 133'' flatbed, I'm sure that is different

The 133" Cab & Chassis (flatbed) uses the exact same frame as the Longhorn. The C&C rear axle is 4" narrower than the single wheel axle putting the tires real close to the leaf springs and requiring the tubs to be widened. I imagine tire size plays along with just how much the tires either tucks in or stick out slightly. I'm in tbe process of doing this on a 4x4.
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kwmech 08-02-2012 03:06 PM

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Hmmm, like I said I just did this to my 68. and the tires stick out each side by about 2-2-1/2'' inches. Tires are about 3/4'' from the springs. This is using stock dually rims with a 7.50-16 tire. Using a C&C rear axle wouldn't have worked by my measurements. I have a C&C axle assy in my tow truck and took the measurements of of that.

bulldog2513 08-02-2012 03:11 PM

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very nicely done and i would LOVE to have it. however, it is by far an original. it screams restoration and customization. the tubs are clearly fabricated with a filler piece. and as stated before....the longhorn didnt release until 73.

Dieselwrencher 08-02-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kwmech (Post 5519222)
Hmmm, like I said I just did this to my 68. and the tires stick out each side by about 2-2-1/2'' inches. Tires are about 3/4'' from the springs. This is using stock dually rims with a 7.50-16 tire. Using a C&C rear axle wouldn't have worked by my measurements. I have a C&C axle assy in my tow truck and took the measurements of of that.

You might remeasure. I put my extra bed on a 71 cab and chassis truck and it looked just like this truck. The outer tire barely stuck out of the wheel well. It had stock tires on it as well.


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