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MP&C 03-10-2016 11:22 PM

1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Tonight in the shop we started the repair work on the front fenders for the 1947 Biederman Truck, seen here for reference:


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203604.jpg


The fenders are made using 16 gauge steel, so this may be a bit challenging when we get to blocking and wheeling patches for the fenders themselves. In the meantime (while still waiting for the new English wheel) let's get started on the inner fenders. The driver's side is the worst, with so much rotted away that we couldn't get accurate dimensions. The passenger side was in much better condition, but just shy of 70 years has taken its toll in adding some wavy distortion. So we'll remake both sides for a better match.



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203644.jpg



In order to get a more crisp bend on the 16 gauge steel, we used a tipping die in the Lennox to thin the metal at the line of the bend.



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204254.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204261.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204265.jpg



Bending in the Baileigh Magnetic Brake..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204258.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204267.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204268.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204270.jpg



This detail shot shows how the thinning helps get a tighter bend..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204260.jpg



Next, we needed a profile template for the rear radius, so the kick shrinker is used on a folded 19 gauge strip to add the radius..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204279.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204278.jpg



A flat folded strip works better than an angle as if you shrink too far in this direction.....



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204280.jpg



......you can simply shrink the back half to reverse the effect without the need for changing to the stretching die..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204281.jpg



Now with an accurate pattern, we can use the template on the new inner fender..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204282.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204286.jpg



All trimmed...



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204290.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204291.jpg



With the new clamped to the old, we can see what the years of abuse has done..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204292.jpg



One down, one to go..

MP&C 03-12-2016 10:02 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Today we got the second inner fender cut out, and took them both over for a test fit on the truck


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204303.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204304.jpg


The driver's side has a bolting plate in the middle of the frame for the steering box, so a relief notch was in order...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204306.jpg


....as well as a bit of trimming for some clearance so that the paint won't be chipped off on the first test drive. The fabrication of these parts are done, and we should pick up the new Tommasini Wheeling Machine this coming weekend so we can get started on the fender patches..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204307.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204308.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204309.jpg

flashed 03-12-2016 10:13 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Nice work ,neat truck .

swamp rat 03-14-2016 12:17 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Following!

dug224 04-03-2016 07:42 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Nice build. Keep the photos coming. dug

Low Elco 04-05-2016 12:52 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Gonna be neat!

MP&C 07-01-2016 09:52 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
John's getting ready for engine start ceremonies, so I guess I need to get off my duff here. To help out in that regard, next we'll fabricate the battery tray which I don't believe came with the truck when John got it. Here's the best we have for a pattern:



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204646.jpg



The hold down bracket for the prescribed Group 4 battery was with the truck, so we did some test fitting with the inner fender in place. It is a bit cramped for space, and John expressed concern of the availability of the Group 4 battery. Most local sources only carry the Group 1 in stock, which would also be a better fit.. So out with the old...



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204644.jpg



I did miss getting in the flat pictures, but here is the freshly folded and welded hold down bracket for the new battery size.



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204639.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204640.jpg



All trimmed and prepped for paint..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204641.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204642.jpg



Comparing the new to the old...



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204645.jpg



Next will be the new battery tray.

MP&C 07-04-2016 01:41 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
...and now for the battery tray, shown here cut to size and sides folded up...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204650.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204651.jpg


For the end folds, the cut was started using a .035 cutoff wheel..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204652.jpg


...and our trusty jig saw again...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204653.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204654.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204656.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204658.jpg


Both ends complete, and frame holes have been piloted. Once checked to the hole spacing on the frame they can be drilled out for the 3/8 bolts.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204659.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204661.jpg

Bomp 07-04-2016 04:00 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Always learn something when looking at your work.

I will put to use using the tipping die to help sharpen up the edge. Currently don't have a Lennox but when I grow up I will.

Thanks

MP&C 08-13-2016 11:54 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
More progress on the Biederman fenders.. With Kyle on vacation I was shorthanded in the shop so John (the owner) came by and lent a hand.

First step was to remove the inner fender to see what we had to work with, added some 1/8 holes to use later for clecos in putting things back together..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204723.jpg


The front of the fender bolts to the bumper filler panel, and the rear bolts to the running board. These have a difference in height of 13-3/4, so some blocks were screwed together to hold the fender in correct placement while we worked.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204724.jpg


The inner is getting replaced so the spot welds were ground out for removal.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204727.jpg


Once removed, we found more pitting and damage than we originally thought was there, so now lets make this new as well..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204728.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204730.jpg


New piece is cut out and the Wheeling machine with the go kart slick is used to add the correct radius..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204732.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204734.jpg


Then the flange bend line is marked/thinned using a tipping die in the Lennox like we did for the inner panels we made..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204253.jpg


Then a tipping die and Skateboard wheel in the bead roller is used to make the initial fold on the marked line


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1081.jpg


and finished up with a Step die so we could use it as a backstop


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture059.jpg


The Erco 1447 with stretcher dies was used to stretch the flange in between tipping sessions. All done, matches the fender contour, we'll get the other side folded down next time..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204736.jpg

dug224 08-14-2016 07:32 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Beautiful work!

flashed 08-14-2016 12:04 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Amazing work ,love watching this stuff happen.

Bomp 08-14-2016 12:31 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Thanks for sharing, learn a bunch from your work. Wish I could be a fly on the wall with a note pad.

Advanced Design 08-14-2016 04:56 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Nice work and great tutorial Robert.

MP&C 08-25-2016 11:43 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Thanks guys!

Here's a quick video to show how the radius for the filler panel was done..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnCTqLZg9lg

With the flanges turned both directions....

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204737.jpg

Looking at the rear of the fender that was adjacent to the cab, we found flat areas that seem to indicate some rubbing was occurring. So while we were fabricating the filler panel, we added about 1/8" to shove the fender outward away from the cab.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204738.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204739.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204740.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204741.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204742.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mZTMi3VMr4

MP&C 09-04-2016 09:30 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Some more work on the Biederman fenders..

A paper pattern was taken from the front of the fender to use as a guide to cut out the new piece from 16 ga cold rolled steel.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204746.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204747.jpg


Some 19 gauge was hemmed flat and the Erco kick shrinker used to make profile templates for the horizontal and vertical directions..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204749.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204750.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204751.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204752.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204753.jpg


The initial shape was added with a blocking hammer and shot bag, and finished on the Wheeling Machine..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204757.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204756.jpg

Getting close....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204754.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204755.jpg


This video shows the progress so far, as well as the rust on the leading edge we're repairing..

https://youtu.be/zc4hdatz-hE

flashed 09-05-2016 09:33 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Impressive workmanship ,cant wait to see more.

MP&C 09-07-2016 10:53 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Fender filler panel Number 2 is complete..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uvnvZTTEbs




Fender patch is getting closer...




http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...man/image.jpeg

MP&C 09-08-2016 09:52 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Final tweaks ..... clamped and marked with a scribe..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204758.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204759.jpg


Trimming out the rust...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204760.jpg


14 ga rated Milwaukee shear walks right through...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204761.jpg


Trimming around the wired edging, careful not to nick it. The wrapped sheet metal is opened slightly using the door skin pliers..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204762.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204763.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204764.jpg


With the sheet metal loosened from the wire, a slight twist will break the sheet metal at the score even not having cut through to the wire.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204765.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204766.jpg


This outer section will become a template for the radius on the new patch.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204767.jpg


Trimmed....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204768.jpg


Fitted....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204769.jpg


Saturday Kyle will get the old metal media blasted next to the weld seam so we can fire up the TIG welder..

69chevytrucker 09-08-2016 10:03 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
hats off great work i love metal work like that just dont have all those nice tools good job

MP&C 09-14-2016 10:34 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Thanks!


Time to break out the TIG welder. The new stumps for the upcoming metalshaping class work well as a welding table. The patch is securely clamped from inside to outside to get an accurate marking for tipping the fold around the wire.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...rman%20003.jpg


Flexible Spline is used to carry the opening mark down the patch...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...rman%20002.jpg


Tacked in with the TIG


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...rman%20005.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...rman%20004.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...rman%20006.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...rman%20008.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...rman%20010.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...rman%20012.jpg


Next we'll wrap the wire and trim the front edge to size.

MP&C 10-21-2016 10:34 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
The shop is hosting another Peter Tommasini class this year, one of the items to pass out to the attendees will be some of the rare earth magnets that we use. I just got my delivery in yesterday, these are Cup-26 magnets from Applied Magnets, they have a 65 lb pull. We use them for holding paper patterns to wheel wells during test fit to copper strip for welding backer..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_1760.jpg


We install a csk 10-32 and lock nut to act as a handle, and they are ready to use...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203240.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204863.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_1761.jpg


John has been assembling parts of the Biederman truck front end while waiting for the fender completion. He mocked up the hood the other day only to find out it didn't fit the cab as it should.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_1753.jpg


It looks like the cab is wider than the hood, as the radius does not match and it's pushing the hood outward and up....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_1747.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_1748.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_1755.jpg


To explain, this is a 1947 truck that had extensive rust in the cab. He found a cab on a newer truck, 1951 IIRC, that was made by the same company. It now appears the newer replacement cab is slightly wider than the original, so our intended option is to cut a slice from back to almost the front and add a pie slice to push the radius out and the beltline down where it belongs. Looks like an easier option than remaking the hood. Something else to add to the list. Just to make sure the wider cab doesn't affect fender fitment, we also mocked up the lower hood side and clamped the tapered filler panels and took a comparison measurement from the outside edges, front and back.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_1756.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_1757.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_1758.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_1759.jpg


So we have just shy of 3/8 more in the back, or 3/16 pushed outward on each side. I think we can live with that, it likely is well within factory tolerance.. More to come..

Advanced Design 10-21-2016 08:42 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Very nice work. How do you like Peter's wheel?

MP&C 10-22-2016 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7748633)
Very nice work. How do you like Peter's wheel?

I have spoken to a few guys that have used the Tommasini wheel and based on the feedback I've heard and my personal experience with it, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better machine in that size range.
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MP&C 02-05-2017 09:33 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Well, I need to make a little progress on a 16 gauge fender, so the highly precise stand for the Laser Level was used. We have about 13-3/4" difference in height from back edge of fender to front edge. So Laser is set at 13-3/4 above the table, with heights verified to all four corners of the table.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2327.jpg


Prior to trimming the front of the fender we had measured some reference marks to the front edge for locating the new cut line..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%204760.jpg


Adding those lower edge marks back on our fender patch, we adjusted the height of the fender front for the laser to match those marks by sliding our jack stand fixture around inside the fender until we had the correct height. Hey, this is technical stuff!


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2329.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2332.jpg


And traced the laser mark with the sharpie...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2334.jpg


Initial cut to remove the bulk was done with the Milwaukee shear, the final was done with Midwest Shears. I figured slower = more precise...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2337.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2338.jpg

MP&C 02-09-2017 12:19 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Doing a test fit of the Biederman fender....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2341.jpg


Was going to do a little bit of touch up on the front weld seam, needs more shape..

The fender spans about 53" at the bottom, where it wouldn't fit in the wheeling machine sitting on the floor. We added a lift kit under the legs, except for one which needed to be open under the leg..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2346.jpg


in process....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvsAkBLlG2o


Needed to wrap the wire edge....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2351.jpg


Note the genuine John Deere anvil...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2352.jpg


The flange was hammered over using various hammers and dollies (anvils) with the final wrap tightened up with a pair of vise grips modified with smooth jaws...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2355.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2356.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2357.jpg

Advanced Design 02-09-2017 05:45 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Nice work Robert. I like the John Deere anvil. The owner must be really pleased.

MP&C 02-15-2017 11:51 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Thanks, I hope so!


The rear flange for the Biederman fender is cut out of some 12 gauge steel and tacked in place..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2385.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2386.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2388.jpg


This flange bolts to the front of the running board..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2389.jpg


The front mounting flange is cut out of 12 gauge steel and tacked in place..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2391.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2392.jpg


This flange bolts to the filler panel behind the front bumper.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2393.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2395.jpg


With them tacked in place, we'll do one more test fit and then finish the welds.

MP&C 02-17-2017 08:28 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Test fit the Biederman front fender to insure we had no clearance issues..





Rear flange to running board:





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2396.jpg





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2397.jpg





Front flange to bumper filler panel:





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2400.jpg





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2401.jpg





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2403.jpg





Looks like we're ready to finish welding...

flashed 02-17-2017 09:29 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Looks great ,cant wait to see more .

MP&C 02-20-2017 10:28 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Thanks!


The flanges were TIG welded in place, welds dressed, and then worked to remove the remnants of the old filler panel. The old spot welds were removed using a cut off wheel in a die grinder. When the upper panel gets thin, the heat turns it blue. When you see shiny metal again, you have found the second layer, so stop grinding!



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2411.jpg



This video explains the process a bit better...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb49MgRPzvY



Next to clean all the rust that was hiding between the layers. A tight squeeze!



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_2412.jpg



The filler panel we fabricated was positioned, and drilled for some 1/8" cleco's. Then another test fit:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evBQvi5dsnw

MP&C 05-12-2017 06:42 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Been away for a bit across the pond, finally back to some metal work.

Had a fenderless trailer showed up at the shop Wednesday night, needed some welding... Good time as any to try out the new clamps. Two held the fender nice and tight to the frame.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_3115.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_3116.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_3117.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_3119.jpg


Last night we worked on the fender patch #2 for the Biederman truck, 16 gauge fun!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXjl...ature=youtu.be




http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3123.jpg




http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3124.jpg




Missed the in process pictures, I'll try and do better next time..

GR8-68 05-12-2017 07:17 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Sweet build, love the fab work you have done :chevy:

MP&C 06-07-2017 11:19 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Thanks Larry!


Some more progress on the Biederman fenders, here's where we left off last time...





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3124.jpg





On the passenger fender, we removed the cleco's holding the filler panel and John (the owner) media blasted the flanges where the panels overlapped..





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3446.jpg





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3447.jpg





Cleco holes were enlarged on the filler panel flange to accommodate plug welds and the two parts welded together...





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...n/IMG_3450.jpg





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After grinding the welds, John brushed some SPI epoxy in the lapped panels to seal them up..





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Back on the driver's fender, time to trim off the rusted and bent front edge....





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The door skin removal tool is used to unwrap the wired edge...





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Once the wrap is broken free, the top is scored with a cutoff wheel and then peeled around. No cuts on the wire as this may weaken it..





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Trimmed and clamped in place for a test fit..





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MP&C 06-08-2017 11:10 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
This evening we took the passenger fender over to John's so we could mock it up on the truck and locate/cleco it to the lower hood side..


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The wing nut cleco's used in about four spots to hold things good and snug....


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Back at the shop, we'll get this plug welded on Saturday..


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MP&C 06-12-2017 12:19 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
tried to make some headway on the Biederman. John is taking it to the truck show in Macungie PA so we're trying to get the fenders complete so he can bolt them on and answer questions all day about their bare finish..


With the lower hood side cleco'ed to the passenger fender using wing nut clecos to pull things up nice and tight, lets get some plug welds done to join all three parts together...


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Passenger fender lapped seams then had SPI epoxy brushed in from both sides to seal in case he runs into rain. We he returns they'll be ready for media blasting and paint..


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Next onto the Driver fender, the remainder of the flange from the old filler panel is removed, a cut off wheel is used for releasing the OEM spot welds..


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Next, we had a rub issue where the fender was a bit close to the cab....note the flat area, as well as a rust through. So we'll just trim this out and replace..


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MP&C 06-12-2017 12:30 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Today I finished up the TIG welding on the rust repair...


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This area has a recess so it doesn't rub the side of the cab...


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Next to clamp the front repair section, the vise grips tend to rotate after clamped and allow the weld joint to open. So to fix the gravity issue, we broke out the painters tape..


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16 gauge sheet metal wiring, gotta love it!


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Next time we'll get the filler panel added to the Driver's fender..


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flashed 06-12-2017 07:05 AM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Love this build ,thanks for sharing with us here .

MP&C 06-12-2017 11:32 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Thanks for your comments!


This evening's progress, the bolting flanges were cut out of 12 gauge steel, and tacked in place using the TIG. Then welded and dressed..




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Next to trim the front of the fender, a laser is set up 13-3/4" above the table holding the fender. This is the differential we measured off the truck from the bumper filler panel down to the running board. all four corners on the table are checked to insure the laser is set correctly. Then the laser line is transposed to the fender and trimmed..




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The height was adjusted by sliding the blocks forward/backward in the fender.




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Front mounting flange TIG welded in place and welds dressed..




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Filler panel fitted to the fender and plug welded...




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Test fit onto the truck, aligned to the lower hood side and cleco'ed in place.




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We'll get the lower hood side welded on tomorrow evening, holes drilled, and fenders bolted up to the truck.

MP&C 06-13-2017 10:33 PM

Re: 1947 Biederman Truck Fender repairs
 
Tonight we got the lower hood side plug welded to the driver's fender, then the lapped seams were brushed with SPI epoxy primer from both sides to seal out the elements. John will be taking this to a couple shows with the fenders in bare metal, so we needed to seal those areas.


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With the fenders all one piece again, we took them to John's shop for re-assembly. First order of business is to add some welting to the fender area adjacent to the cab's lower cowl area...


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..then bolted up the fenders and battery tray.. This should give John a head start on the finishing touches tomorrow before loading it up for the Macungie Truck show.


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