Hello and Could I get a little advise please..
 

Just joined today and wanted to say hello. I'm beginning my search for a truck I've wanted for a long time, a '71/'72 Short box. Would prefer a pretty stock Cheyenne Super but open to others. The truck is going to be a pretty much summer daily driver but not a work truck.
I want something that will "rock" if I want, but docile enough for daily use.
Going to look at a '72 today. Looks to be a nice truck, Cheyenne Super, lowered, 383 Stroker, Auto. The guy did not build it and has only word of mouth info on what it is.. The last 383 I had was absolutely un-drivable for daily use. I'm afraid this one might be too.
Any suggestions on what to look for and questions to ask would be appreciated..

Sorry for the inadvertent problem when first posting..

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Welcome

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Welcome- looking forward to pictures of the truck you're looking at. If you find a solid shortie in Michigan, you better grab it

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By un drivable you mean to much radical cam? 383 is a good setup. I like them. It's like any motor. Needs to be set up right. Good luck

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Welcome to the board and good luck with your search.

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So I go look at the truck today and it looks pretty nice. Started looking closer and first thing I see is a weld on the frame one both sides, (hmmm.. long box to short box? Probably!!) Went to find the SPID as soon as it came off the lift and sure enough 127in WB. Also not a Super I don't think and did not came with Factory Bucket Seats, Ochre not red, too,
So anyway, nice Short, Cheyenne Super, CLONE!! Owner says he had no idea yet he has detailed it completely and is a Complete car guy...
As for the 383... I don't know... didn't seem to have a lot of punch but ??
Anyway what's it worth... ??? I really don't know...

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We need pics. Check to see if the short from long box welds were done right. A clone fits your needs, and it should come with clone pricing as well-good luck

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Yep, we need pictures.

As for the 383 it depends on how it was built and what parts were used. I've built mild 383's for trucks and vans that were so smooth and quiet you'd think they were 400's. On the other hand, I've built 12:1 383's that need 110 octane to run.

I always assume it's a 350 (casting numbers) if the seller claims it's a 383 without paperwork. I've had a few friends get burned buying Camaros and such with "383's" that are nothing more than a spray paint rebuild 350 with a $99 cam kit.

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The long to short welds look good based on my limited expertise. Should have taken a picture. Seam was about at the back of the cab.

No pics yet cause i don't have a we host and can't seem to load right from my computer...

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You can email them to me if you like. I will post them. Email is 81turbota (at) gmail.com

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Thanks... they are on the way..

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Very nice truck!

Here are the pictures

https://s26.postimg.org/fwl9d0t3d/IMG_0291.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/q7xm5oksp/IMG_0294.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/n2hlt7rk9/IMG_0295.jpg
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Thanks for posting those!! ....

Anybody want to venture a value number?

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That's a nice looking truck! What's his asking price?

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$28,500 Firm!!

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It's kind of a bummer the owner didn't disclose any of that to you
I would walk!
Almost $30k. And firm
But claiming, he didn't even know it was cut
Makes, no sense to me

Be patient
If you have that kind of budget
You should be able to find a truck that is not a clone

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If it is in your budget and want a nice truck like it that is all ready to drive, I suggest go for it. I personally would not care about the SPID items not matching everything in the truck, such as paint color, wheel base, bucket seats, etc. If your priority is getting a near original truck, that does not look like one.

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IMO that is too much for a cut frame truck. I'd keep looking.

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That's my opinion at the moment as well. Told him I thought it was worth something between $20-25K and that was not well received... :)

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I agree....beautiful truck, but for that money, you could find a equally as nice, true shortbed.

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I agree!

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Yeah, 25K is show truck money!!!!! Keep looking, you'll see. And a "new" motor or tranny is NOT "new" without receipts !!!! No exceptions.

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that is a nice looking truck. originality doesn't matter that much to me but it does effect in price.i think it is about $10 000 overpriced.

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I agree.. I think I would do $20k if we can get there. Seller is beginning to realize he has more in it than he can ever expect to get back... negotiations continue..

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maybe just in my area but these trucks priced over 10 k seem to be listed for sale for a very long time. just because a few sale at barrett Jackson it is not the norm.

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Dang that truck is nice! The only ugly thing I see from here is the spid itself. It looks to be held on with clear scotch tape in one corner and red electrical tape in another... Someone mentioned Barrett Jackson prices... I was at Barrett Jackson New England this past summer. You wouldn't believe the pile of crap that I saw sell for 25k. No body panels lined up, (not even close) it leaned to one side and it had the ugliest set of 1980's aluminum rims on it. That was enough to make me close my eyes and walk away. If the truck you are looking at weren't cut down I'd say it would do 40k pretty easy at Barrett Jackson. I'm not saying the real world price is 40k by any stretch, everyone over pays at the auction. What it all comes down to is whether or not you plan on keeping the truck because resale is always going to be an issue. My biggest concern is this seller claims to know nothing...

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The way I see it, a truck, or anything for that matter, is only worth what some one is willing to pay. The motivations of the buyer are the primary variable.
I'm a car guy, always have been. I like drivers. Show cars are cool and I appreciate the work and craftsmanship that go into them, but I won't own something I couldn't or wouldn't take to the grocery store.
This truck falls into the driver category for me. I'm pretty sure I couldn't build it for $20k

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The price listed it 28500 firm, but that was before the seller knew it was a cut frame truck. I think the truck has a lot of "eyeball" to it, but there should be a price drop if for nothing else because the truck is not what it was listed as at the 28500 price.

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I've learned a lot about the truck since Sunday. Some of it good, some at least enlighten for both the seller and myself. I've made my final offer which is a long way for him from where he started. We will see tomorrow how bad he wants to sell it.....

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Well I bought it!!
After lots of discussion I paid a little more than I would have liked and the seller took a lot less than he wanted.
Overall the truck is great and fun to drive. Put about 250 miles on it (including the 130 miles home from the seller). A few things that have popped up since and may need some advise with, but will start different threads for those..
Thanks for all the input it helped a lot in the negotiations!!!

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Congrats on a great looking truck!

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Welcome! And that is indeed a very sharp truck. I agree with the earlier post about the price for a cut frame truck. Although the sum of the parts might be worth it, you can still build one for far less and get what you want without having to settle for something you know nothing about(details on the specifics of the truck) I bought my '71 as a basket case from a board member and after three long years, finally completed it last year. I did most all the work myself, except the final body work/paint (blocking/sanding/paint) I did a lot of trade work, swapped parts I had stashed, and my uncle has a powder coat set up for his "B mod" race car chassis and parts, so I got my chassis and several major parts powder coated for the cost of the materials, of course I had to do all the prep work.

Best thing about building one of these on your own is not only learning how it goes together, but you know exactly what you have and knowing that it's done to your expectations.
Good luck with your decision, I'm sure you'll enjoy it either way.
Ben Smith
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Great looking truck.

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As I posted I already bought it. Building is always an interesting and enlightening endeavor but at my age I don't have the energy. I just wanted some thing to drive..
Besides, need to finish this first...

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Consider this...if you feel good about the purchase, that's all you need to know. I've only had one car over the years that I didn't have lingering doubt about whether it was a good idea or not...ended up keeping it 11 years & had a great time owning it.