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Electricduane 01-23-2018 02:06 PM

Add seat to trunk area of K5?
 
I was inspired by Huggerorangeblood's thread about adding a center console/jump seat from a 2015 Silverado (I think) to his K5.

Has anyone added a second rear seat to the trunk area of a K5? It would then seat 6.

Obviously a rear seat from a 73-91 K5 would work. The second rear seat of 73-91 suburbans are extremely similar, if not identical. Later model Suburban seats would likely work as well, tho I have not tested that.

Once you get the seat, you would need to figure out how to attach it to the trunk floor. Essentially remove the gas tank and reinforce the underside with some sheetmetal or very large washers. Sandwich the trunk floor with sheetmetal/washers and bolt the seat in. Similarly use sheetmetal/washers to bolt in aftermarket seatbelt mounts.

Question 1: is the trunk floor metal too thin to weld the sheetmetal/washers to the underside? Or is it good enough/better idea to just sandwich the trunk floor and possibly seal up the sheet metal/washers with some silicone in order to avoid/limit moisture and rust.

Q2: After you're done, is what you've created safe? "Crashworthiness" is the legal term. If kids are riding in the 2nd backseat and you get rear-ended, is the vehicle reasonably safe? Obvious comparison would be riding in a Yugo or some other tiny/flimsy car.

Q3: After you're done, is what you've created street-legal? Can you get pulled over/get a ticket for essentially creating passenger seats in the trunk area of a vehicle (obviously not OEM-designed for passengers)? Since I live in California, I strongly suspect the answer is "yes" (by default), but I wanted to check with you smart people.

Thanks!!

xs-style 01-23-2018 07:25 PM

Re: Add seat to trunk area of K5?
 
Might not be legal... But it would be fun lol Especially if you made the rear most seat face backwards.

Think about it. You've got that big electric rear glass. Some I've seen are pretty dark tinted. Ever heard Jeff foxworthy when he talks about mooning people in the back of an old Buick wagon ...

Huggerorangeblood 01-24-2018 03:29 AM

Re: Add seat to trunk area of K5?
 
Thank you. I’m glad I inspired someone.

If I needed more than 6 seats in a K5 I think I would look at seats that face in in the trunk. Weren’t the fj40’s like that?

68Timber 01-24-2018 12:38 PM

Re: Add seat to trunk area of K5?
 
I had a 76 Blazer once with a rear seat that didn't fold up. What you're talking about is essentially bolting one of those at the rear of the bed instead of the front so there's no reason it shouldn't work.

Electricduane 01-24-2018 01:50 PM

Re: Add seat to trunk area of K5?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggerorangeblood (Post 8168835)
Thank you. I’m glad I inspired someone.

If I needed more than 6 seats in a K5 I think I would look at seats that face in in the trunk. Weren’t the fj40’s like that?

yes, that is a cool idea too . . . would be hard/expensive to find those seats, or other seat that would work. Maybe the Land Rover Defenders had "jump seats" like that?

MikeG. 01-24-2018 03:25 PM

Re: Add seat to trunk area of K5?
 
Legal in Texas

68Timber 01-24-2018 03:49 PM

Re: Add seat to trunk area of K5?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electricduane (Post 8168277)
Question 1: is the trunk floor metal too thin to weld the sheetmetal/washers to the underside? Or is it good enough/better idea to just sandwich the trunk floor and possibly seal up the sheet metal/washers with some silicone in order to avoid/limit moisture and rust.

I have a few rusty spots at the rear lip of my K5 bed and bought some patch panels to use to replace the bad spots. I haven't made this repair yet, but I've seen it documented here several times. If you can weld in repairs, then welding a washer and nut underneath will work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electricduane (Post 8168277)
Q2: After you're done, is what you've created safe? "Crashworthiness" is the legal term. If kids are riding in the 2nd backseat and you get rear-ended, is the vehicle reasonably safe? Obvious comparison would be riding in a Yugo or some other tiny/flimsy car.

If you used the seat I mentioned above, that doesn't fold up, it should make the floor stronger in that area. I've seen this done in one Blazer. Obviously the spare tire has to be relocated. I would probably place the new third row seat as close behind the second row seat as feasible without crowding out foot room. This would maybe leave you room behind it to store small items. Plus if it's too close to the rear glass, your kids will be banging there heads on it over bumps, or if you were rear-ended.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electricduane (Post 8168277)
Q3: After you're done, is what you've created street-legal? Can you get pulled over/get a ticket for essentially creating passenger seats in the trunk area of a vehicle (obviously not OEM-designed for passengers)? Since I live in California, I strongly suspect the answer is "yes" (by default), but I wanted to check with you smart people.

I would bet it's legal, even in California. I don't consider that a trunk area though. If you're using factory hardware and belts it will look factory and not draw attention to the fact it's been added on.

chevy3100truck 01-24-2018 04:36 PM

Re: Add seat to trunk area of K5?
 
I didn't add a 3rd row, but consider the 3rd row seats from the mid 2000's Denali's - they are a split design with seat belts built in. Fit perfectly between the wheelwells.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=755107

I used 3/16" plate underneath 8" wide x the width of the floor underneath the floor as a backing for the mounts. Would be easy to add another row if someone wanted too the same way since the belt mounts are built in.

One word of caution though - legroom will be brutal. The normal 2nd row has the advantage of a drop off in the floor height in front of the seat, a 3rd row wouldn't have that and you cant exactly raise the seat higher. It would be little kids only lol.


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