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hgs_notes 09-03-2009 09:18 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Are you going to have some sort of bracing from the top of the shock towers? That front section of minx frame looks like it could be tied into the bottom of the new section, but I suppose it depends on the other suspension/steering parts that need to fit in there. Looks like a hack job now, but I'm sure you'll get it all tied together and looking like it was that way from the factory.

This build is cute an all, but I have to say, I miss the progress reports from the burb.

Frizzle Fry 09-03-2009 10:48 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
The front is barely tied in just to hold position for now. There will be boxing top and bottom and yes tower bracing triangulated back to the firewall and a removable strut brace laterally.

Britain Smith 09-03-2009 12:34 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Nice man...I will try to make it over after I pick up the kids tonight to check out the progress in person.

Now get out there and cut the other side!

-Britain

Mister laugh 09-03-2009 11:59 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
You missed a big spot in the middle.







On a more serious note i wish i had 1/10th of your metal skill........It looks great

454_72_4X4 09-03-2009 11:59 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry (Post 3499595)

Ya forgot to fill that huge hole in the center! hahaha

Amazing work frizzle! Keep it up!

Jvsapp 09-04-2009 12:01 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
he's gonna use a wheelbarrow tub for that hole :D

454_72_4X4 09-04-2009 12:04 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister laugh (Post 3501202)
You missed a big spot in the middle.







On a more serious note i wish i had 1/10th of your metal skill........It looks great

Hahaha! Same thought, same time! I agree on your second sentence too!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jvsapp (Post 3501207)
he's gonna use a wheelbarrow tub for that hole :D

And it'll probably look great too!

Mister laugh 09-04-2009 01:06 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 454_72_4X4 (Post 3501216)
Hahaha! Same thought, same time! I agree on your second sentence too!



And it'll probably look great too!

He could probably use an old rusty barbecue lid, and make it look like it came out of a factory with his skill.

Frizzle Fry 09-04-2009 06:44 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
How did I miss that? :lol:

No wheelbarrow (I know where that idea came from) or BBQ lids here. But I'd use one if it met my needs.

Yesterday I put the engine in place again so I could mark the rack position and box the frame accordingly.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1252103616

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1252103536

Since it's a bit of a PITA to get the engine/trans in/out I decided to knock some other things out while it was in there. I really wanted to see if my header would work with the added clearance gained with the straight frame rail: NOPE. Not without modification anyway.

I was able to remove 3/4-1" from the primaries right by the flange to suck it in closer to the block.

3/4" taken off (one rolled away):
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1252103683

The two center pipes are the real problem. I was able to get another 1/4"-"3/8" off them forcing them in with a hose clamp:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1252103683

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1252103683

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1252103683

The 4th cylinder did not want to cooperate.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1252103683

Be we have ways...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1252103683

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1252103683

hgs_notes 09-04-2009 07:04 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Where there's a will, a hammer, some visegrips, a cutting wheel and a welder, there's a way. Man that's tight.

Frizzle Fry 09-04-2009 07:41 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
It is tight. I will have to clearance the frame rail a bit.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...N3770Large.jpg

Also had to make some room in the floor (view from inside on PS):
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...N3768Large.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...N3771Large.jpg

But otherwise it's like it was made for it! :lol:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...N3763Large.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...N3764Large.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...N3766Large.jpg

dammitmitchell 09-04-2009 09:43 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
still sexy and incredible (the car and welding ... dont get no ideas here)

hgs_notes 09-05-2009 12:18 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Remember that header wrap adds to the thickness. Considering how close everything is in there, I would say the wrap is mandatory.

Frizzle Fry 09-05-2009 12:28 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dammitmitchell (Post 3502566)
still sexy and incredible (the car and welding ... dont get no ideas here)

:lol: thanks
Quote:

Originally Posted by hgs_notes (Post 3502768)
Remember that header wrap adds to the thickness. Considering how close everything is in there, I would say the wrap is mandatory.

It will be ceramic coated and I'll make a heat shield. Not a big fan of header wrap but I'll use it if I have too.

tdave00 09-05-2009 12:34 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Love watching the progress on this project. Good job man!

Jvsapp 09-05-2009 12:46 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
damn that's tight. and you still have clearance between the firewall and the valve cover? your passenger is gonna have a hot foot :lol: but awesome work FF. i was looking at the use of hose clamps thinking *thwanggggg* if it let go.

Britain Smith 09-09-2009 05:55 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Where are the updates? I know that you have some, I was there!

-Britain

Frizzle Fry 09-09-2009 06:52 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
It's just a repeat of the PS on the DS for the most part. I'll post pics when it's boxed. I've done some more work on the header too. I can post those when it's done (soon).

jb1016 09-16-2009 01:27 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry (Post 3502424)
But otherwise it's like it was made for it! :lol:

This slayed me! Looking good FF.

Rokcrln 09-18-2009 11:41 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Looking good Mike! You had me thinking about doing a 4 banger power plant for an early scratch built roadster pick up I am designing but I came across a 4 cam lincoln 4.6 mod with 50 K on it that will fit the bill a bit better for this build but maybe next time in a little 34 roadster or something. Keep up the progress and get back to that Hoe sometime soon:lol:

Kevin
LFD Inc.

IvelDesigns 09-18-2009 11:52 AM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokcrln (Post 3525273)
I came across a 4 cam lincoln 4.6 mod with 50 K on it

I'm no ford guy, but those 4.6's are some good cheap power. I've seen some builds where guys have pulled a butt load of HP out of them relatively cheap.

Frizzle Fry 09-18-2009 06:42 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokcrln (Post 3525273)
Looking good Mike! You had me thinking about doing a 4 banger power plant for an early scratch built roadster pick up I am designing but I came across a 4 cam lincoln 4.6 mod with 50 K on it that will fit the bill a bit better for this build but maybe next time in a little 34 roadster or something. Keep up the progress and get back to that Hoe sometime soon:lol:

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Love 4cammers. The F20C is a good match for this car's intended use; daily street and occasional weekend ax/drift/silliness.

Still making progress on the DS. I've also been doing a lot of research for the selection/design of the steering. It's not a matter of simply selecting a rack with the right inner-to-inner tie rod length and putting it in the right position. The position of the engine in this car will not allow the correct placement of a "conventional" rack. So I'm designing the steering around a center steer rack similar to this:
http://www.rrs-online.com/images/rackCallout.jpg

The problem is that all the center steer units I can find are designed for rear steer. I may end up getting a RHD rear steer unit and using it for LHD front steer... We'll see.

joe231 09-18-2009 06:56 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Rear steer?

As in the rack mounted to the rear of the front wheels, or steering on the rear wheels?

Frizzle Fry 09-18-2009 07:01 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
RHD manual rack:
http://www.rrs-online.com/images/newMANrack.jpg

Frizzle Fry 09-18-2009 07:03 PM

Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3525902)
Rear steer?

As in the rack mounted to the rear of the front wheels, or steering on the rear wheels?

Rear steer: Tie-rods/steering-arms aft of wheel center on the front wheels.


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