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bark 10-14-2011 02:12 PM

drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
hello, who has drilled and tapped a head to install a stock temp sensor?
did some searching and never really found a how to, is there enouth room for the 3/8 pipe thread style, will I have manifold clearance? don't wanna dive in and cause myself a headache...lol


or should I just buy the adapter found online

clinebarger 10-14-2011 02:23 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
I drilled & tapped the head on my suburban. You will need a 37/64" drill bit, 9/16" also works.

bark 10-15-2011 10:43 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
cool, and I assume there is enough clearance....

thanks

C15_Sierra 10-15-2011 12:58 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
Interested in doing this on my truck...do you have to remove the head to do this?

clinebarger 10-16-2011 01:25 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bark (Post 4954617)
cool, and I assume there is enough clearance....

thanks

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by C15_Sierra (Post 4954782)
Interested in doing this on my truck...do you have to remove the head to do this?

No, But the engine needs to be out.

6.0 1955 10-16-2011 09:30 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
For $18 street and performance makes adapters for this. To me I'll spend that small amount to not risk messing up a head. Just contact them and tell them the thread size and sender length for mechanical gauge. They also make an adapter to replace the oil sender with a mechanical gauge system.
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STOCKISH 10-17-2011 09:38 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
The adapters are garbage. I drilled and tapped mine on my 6.0 Do it once and do it right. Why deal with leaky cruddy adapters?

72lb4x4 10-17-2011 09:56 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
A bit of searching the internet will get the P/N for a sender with the right thread, or you can get a thermostat housing from a later truck with the right size hole.

Just a few alternatives...

C15_Sierra 10-17-2011 10:11 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1972SuperCheyenne (Post 4958980)
The adapters are garbage. I drilled and tapped mine on my 6.0 Do it once and do it right. Why deal with leaky cruddy adapters?

During my research I found a few complaints about those senders which is why I'd been hesitant...I figured why not drill and tap, but am nervous to be drilling w/ a hand drill..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72lb4x4 (Post 4959041)
A bit of searching the internet will get the P/N for a sender with the right thread, or you can get a thermostat housing from a later truck with the right size hole.

Just a few alternatives...

I can do that, or try to have one of the guys in the mach shop do it at work, but like I said above, I'd seen some negative reviews of sender adapters

If there are senders that have the right threads and have the right ohm range for the '91 Burb gauges I'm running, I'm all ears...did some searching and found very little info available for stock senders

Clyde65 10-18-2011 09:32 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
I used the adapter from Autometer, 12/1.5 by 1\8ths I think.

here it is.

Amazon.com: Auto Meter 2277 1/8" NPT to M12... Amazon.com: Auto Meter 2277 1/8" NPT to M12...

Jonce 10-20-2011 05:17 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
When I built my 5.3L S-10, I went to the the auto parts store and bought a new sensor (brass I believe). Then I sanded down the threads enough to run the correct die over it. Once completed, I threaded into the passenger side head and hooked up my sensor wire. Worked for 2 yrs (25k miles) and then sold the truck.

mcbassin 10-21-2011 09:52 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
Anyone take pictures of this modification?

72lb4x4 10-21-2011 11:00 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
Sorry, I didn't notice this was in the LS area. I was thinking about the different senders in SBC heads...

CamaroChris 10-26-2011 06:39 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
I machined a bunch of SB temp sensors down into a 12mm/1.5 thread so that means NO adapter and NO drilling and tapping the block! Talk about doing it right. If you want one PM me for details. !IF! thats OK with the board? I just need to know which sensor you want because there are like 5 diffrent connector types.

mcbassin 10-26-2011 08:15 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroChris (Post 4974108)
I machined a bunch of SB temp sensors down into a 12mm/1.5 thread so that means NO adapter and NO drilling and tapping the block! Talk about doing it right. If you want one PM me for details. !IF! thats OK with the board? I just need to know which sensor you want because there are like 5 diffrent connector types.

That's a really great idea. I am the manager at a machine shop and make parts for my truck all the time. I should be able to modify one in a pinch. Thanks for the tip. I have also made adapters for these out of brass.

Robznob11 10-26-2011 09:03 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
Some drill and tap water pump i just run a mechanical gauge sender on top radiator hose
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bark 10-26-2011 09:15 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
I never even thought about machining one down, never even considered how much extra meat was on it..... thanks I am going to take a look at it rite away

farmtrucks 11-03-2011 10:39 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
will this work in the back of passenger head and show true temp on the original gauge cluster
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/VDO-323092/

68GMCCustom 11-03-2011 04:28 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
the adapter made the temp sensor stick way out and look like crap...... so I tapped my passenger side head.

CamaroChris 11-14-2011 06:53 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-20-40_651.jpg

Thealien 11-15-2011 02:34 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
CamaroChris,

What year truck is that temp sensor for? I have a 72 and the sensors are 1/2 NPT and I couldn't find any sensors that I could turn down enough to work. Later vehicles use a 3/8 NPT with a different resistance and wil not work with my factory guages.

CamaroChris 11-16-2011 04:42 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
The picture I posted is a 91 3/4 ton temp switch. I have also turned down an 86' I'm going junk yard hopping this weekend to grab a bunch of other year temp senders to play with.
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Thealien 11-16-2011 10:16 AM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
if you find any 72s that you can turn down ill take one or two.

Chevy4Life 11-17-2011 12:31 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroChris (Post 5012513)
The picture I posted is a 91 3/4 ton temp switch. I have also turned down an 86' I'm going junk yard hopping this weekend to grab a bunch of other year temp senders to play with.
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I'd be willing do donate my 67 temp 1/2" npt sender for the test. the sensor end is about 13mm so, some meat would probably need to be taken off all the way down. I have no idea how much "extra" material there is or how this would effect it's operation.

I could take some basic ohm readings before and after also.

I can't believe the gauge companies haven't jumped on this. I guess the $ is in selling us gauges not senders.

Chevy4Life 11-17-2011 01:47 PM

Re: drill and tap head for temp sender?
 
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I ran across this link that uses the large block plug tapped for the 1/2" NPT sender. It's not as good as having it in the head, but it's only a few inches away. http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...r-adapter.html

1-Drill and tap the head
2-Drill and tap the water pump
3-Add a short pipe with a fitting in the upper radiator hose
4-Tapping the block heater/drain plug
5-?????????

6- Find or get someone to make a 12mm 72-88 Ohm Resistance At 220 Deg F sensor(If it's even possible) I've cut open a few senders and the large senders use a large wound spring and the smaller ones use a thin flat spring.


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