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Buffalocouleekid 12-09-2016 12:18 AM

1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
I am new and this is my first post so bare with me, I have a question on converting a non-power steering 67 frame to power steering. I started out with a bare 67 4x4 frame and 2 parts pickups. I took the axles out of a 87 4x4 chevy pickup and I have the power steering sector from that. I also have a complete 1970 2wd CST/10 that I am robbing the body off of so I can steal the power steering sector from that too. Now from what I understand a 67 4x4 never had power steering. My frame does not have the "bumps" or "dimples" for the bolts for the sector and I am worried about spacing. I am also thinking for some reason that it only has 3 bolt holes instead of the 4 needed, not 100% sure but I will check tomorrow. Anyone have any suggestions? Not afraid to cut and weld as I am also doing a lwb to swb conversion.

flashed 12-09-2016 12:23 AM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
Im in to see what you find out as I have a 67 4x4 shortbed project .

First c10 12-09-2016 12:55 AM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
BCK, welcome aboard!!!
I just did this to my sons truck. Check out my hulk jr build in my signature.
Captainfab (his user name) makes an adapter for the early trucks that don't have the frame dimple for the power steering box. I will try and post a link to the thread.
Good luck and post up some pictures or start a build thread.
Scott

First c10 12-09-2016 12:57 AM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
Found it

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=332923

Buffalocouleekid 12-09-2016 12:16 PM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by First c10 (Post 7791171)
BCK, welcome aboard!!!
I just did this to my sons truck. Check out my hulk jr build in my signature.
Captainfab (his user name) makes an adapter for the early trucks that don't have the frame dimple for the power steering box. I will try and post a link to the thread.
Good luck and post up some pictures or start a build thread.
Scott

Thanks for finding me that thread. I wonder if I just drill holes in the correct location and make 1/4 inch spacers to make up for the dimples...

First c10 12-09-2016 01:50 PM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
It's more like 3/8"-1/2" but you need to make sure it is strong as this is a weak point in the frame on these trucks.

61K10 12-09-2016 01:56 PM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
you can make your own plate if you have the means to build one. the 2wd box will not work.

Buffalocouleekid 12-09-2016 02:52 PM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by First c10 (Post 7791473)
It's more like 3/8"-1/2" but you need to make sure it is strong as this is a weak point in the frame on these trucks.

Yea I suppose I could build a plate for the inside and use the it as the template for drilling the frame, I am a few steps away currently from this, my frame is currently upside down and I am doing some rust repair on some crossmembers , I should start a build thread once I figured out how to.

trukman1 12-11-2016 10:22 AM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
If I remember right 73-87 trucks came with spacers on the power steering boxes. Since you'll have to use a 4x4 steering box anyway it would make since to get it off the newer "square body" trucks and just use the spacers that come on it as well. Yes, you can drill the extra hole if needed. I've yet to see a three hole 4x4 box but I hear they are out there. I'd stick with the 4-hole unit though.

Seems to me as I look at that adapter plate and the spacers it would be about the same as the spacers I mentioned. As for the weak point, that's true of all the c-channel frames but I've only had one crack after terrible abuse and after welding it I never had it crack again either.

Looks like making a plate with some spacers couldn't be very hard. Just remember to radius the corners. Sharp corners are a "punch point" to the metal they are up against.

Just my opinion.

Buffalocouleekid 12-11-2016 05:25 PM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trukman1 (Post 7792986)
If I remember right 73-87 trucks came with spacers on the power steering boxes. Since you'll have to use a 4x4 steering box anyway it would make since to get it off the newer "square body" trucks and just use the spacers that come on it as well. Yes, you can drill the extra hole if needed. I've yet to see a three hole 4x4 box but I hear they are out there. I'd stick with the 4-hole unit though.

Seems to me as I look at that adapter plate and the spacers it would be about the same as the spacers I mentioned. As for the weak point, that's true of all the c-channel frames but I've only had one crack after terrible abuse and after welding it I never had it crack again either.

Looks like making a plate with some spacers couldn't be very hard. Just remember to radius the corners. Sharp corners are a "punch point" to the metal they are up against.

Just my opinion.

Ha, perfect. I have a 87 box and now that you said that I remember seeing spacers on there.

Buffalocouleekid 12-14-2016 11:59 PM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
just started a thread on this build
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=724854

Buffalocouleekid 01-13-2017 10:01 PM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
anyone know the measurements for drilling the holes and getting the correct angle and placement of these steering boxes?

First c10 01-14-2017 02:15 AM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
BCK. Remember the link I posted. For 60$ it came with the plate, bolts, and a pattern that showed were to drill. It took me a few minutes to install. Sometimes a few bucks can save hours...
Maybe you can ask if anyone can trace you a pattern from a frame with no box installed. Or blow up a picture to match the frame.
Good luck.

Buffalocouleekid 01-14-2017 07:08 PM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by First c10 (Post 7825503)
BCK. Remember the link I posted. For 60$ it came with the plate, bolts, and a pattern that showed were to drill. It took me a few minutes to install. Sometimes a few bucks can save hours...
Maybe you can ask if anyone can trace you a pattern from a frame with no box installed. Or blow up a picture to match the frame.
Good luck.

You convinced me, I messaged him on buying one.

First c10 01-14-2017 10:17 PM

Re: 1967 4x4 power steering conversion question
 
:metal: keep us posted!!! On the build thread at least!!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalocouleekid (Post 7826047)
You convinced me, I messaged him on buying one.


Buffalocouleekid 02-21-2017 01:29 PM

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Well I got it and got it drilled and welded on, searched around on the forum to try to get it in the right place, should be able to adjust if I am of a hair off with the alignment. Thanks everyone for the help


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