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Linz 01-12-2018 07:56 PM

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Hi Guys

Ive not long brought my first truck and being relatively new to the environment I was hoping to draw on some of the knowledge here on the boards. I like the idea of keeping my truck pretty close to original. And from my research so far I think theres a few things I need to start working away at. Obviously the radio is not stock but I'm guessing theres not much I can do about that other than stitching in a repair panel. I also think being that it was a factory parchment interior I should have the houndstooth seat?? The other question I have is that if my dash and dash pad are black should my carpet also be black?

jocko 01-12-2018 08:06 PM

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Here you go. Parchment Custom Cloth (houndstooth) with black carpet (black carpet is correct, as is the black dash pad - and black steering wheel with tilt). Welcome - your truck looks like a very nice one. Only things I see off the top of my head other than the radio to return to stock are seat cover and carpet - remove aftermarket gauge if you like, of course, but if it's in place of a broken dash gauge, might keep til it's fixed. Some supers had black glovebox doors, others had body color - both are correct. Have you got a picture of the SPID for your truck?

demian5 01-12-2018 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko (Post 8159056)
Here you go. Parchment Custom Cloth (houndstooth) with black carpet (black carpet is correct, as is the black dash pad - and black steering wheel with tilt). Welcome - your truck looks like a very nice one. Only things I see off the top of my head other than the radio to return to stock are seat cover and carpet - remove aftermarket gauge if you like, of course, but if it's in place of a broken dash gauge, might keep til it's fixed. Some supers had black glovebox doors, others had body color - both are correct. Have you got a picture of the SPID for your truck?

Man I have a set (all 3) of parchment seat belts that would look really nice in that...

Linz 01-12-2018 08:20 PM

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Thanks for the reply Jocko man those houndstooth seats look fantastic. Im assuming its still possible to get them from somewhere?? Yes thought it was strange having a black wheel pad and dash but yet the carpet being saddle.

demian5 01-12-2018 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Linz (Post 8159082)
Thanks for the reply Jocko man those houndstooth seats look fantastic. Im assuming its still possible to get them from somewhere?? Yes thought it was strange having a black wheel pad and dash but yet the carpet being saddle.

There is a guy on here sells awesome covers. Search Seat Covers.

Already Gone 01-12-2018 08:36 PM

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Just a thought, is it possible that if the truck was built toward the end of the 72 model year and they were out of black carpet they might have installed the brown one to get the truck don the assembly line? I worked at Chrysler dealers for 25 years and I know they did then switcheroo thing a couple time during my tenure.

cheyenne shortstep 01-13-2018 03:29 AM

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Chances are good that the dash isn't cut, most of those radios went in the stock holes. Beautiful truck.
Jocko, I didn't know that Supers could have a black GBD, thanks for the info.

special-K 01-13-2018 07:28 AM

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No one has mentioned that you have a Cheyenne Super, which is why you have the houndstooth, as well as the woodgrain on the dash. Only Cheyenne Supers (RPO YE9) got those two things and only those two things set the Cheyenne Super interior apart from the Cheyenne (Z84).

The reason the carpet, dash pad, steering wheel, and column are black is due to having the tilt wheel option. All tilt columns were black with matching wheel. Had your truck come with the standard column it would have been Sandalwood (tan) color and so would all those other black parts.

Another some did/some didn't, like the Cheyenne Super glove box door, is the outer A/C vents could be either body color or black. to match dash pad, column, etc. As far as some Cheyenne Supers getting the black glovebox door, I have never seen one painted any color but body color or black. For example, I have never seen a Sandalwood one when truck had standard column with Parchment interior

jocko 01-13-2018 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by demian5 (Post 8159078)
Man I have a set (all 3) of parchment seat belts that would look really nice in that...

The parchment belts do look nice, but black seat belts are correct for the parchment interior in the OP's truck. There are a few Supers floating around with parchment interior and parchment belts - unsure if they were owner added in a resto or not, but the vast majority of orignals were black. Definitely correct in the OP's truck though with the tilt column/wheel (always black, as Tim mentioned above) and black dash pad, etc.

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Originally Posted by demian5 (Post 8159085)
There is a guy on here sells awesome covers. Search Seat Covers.

Member Truckseats (Tim)
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=532345

Linz 01-13-2018 01:32 PM

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Thanks for the all the informative replies. Im learning everyday.Is carpet carpet? Is there any place better to order off? The other question i have is in regards to the wood grain on my dash bezel it is a little tatty around the wiper switch. Is it a relatively simple procedure to swap them out? Or is it quite the art

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 01-13-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K (Post 8159390)
No one has mentioned that you have a Cheyenne Super, which is why you have the houndstooth, as well as the woodgrain on the dash. Only Cheyenne Supers (RPO YE9) got those two things and only those two things set the Cheyenne Super interior apart from the Cheyenne (Z84).

The reason the carpet, dash pad, steering wheel, and column are black is due to having the tilt wheel option. All tilt columns were black with matching wheel. Had your truck come with the standard column it would have been Sandalwood (tan) color and so would all those other black parts.

Another some did/some didn't, like the Cheyenne Super glove box door, is the outer A/C vents could be either body color or black. to match dash pad, column, etc. As far as some Cheyenne Supers getting the black glovebox door, I have never seen one painted any color but body color or black. For example, I have never seen a Sandalwood one when truck had standard column with Parchment interior

Learn something new everyday.

I don't know if it's correct, but my 72 Super had the 558 paint code, which is a medium blue bottom and dark blue top. The interior is medium blue, but the glove box door is dark blue. I believe the glove box door is original and has the original SPID. I can also say someone repainted the interior medium blue, because of the sloppy work with runs. The column is black as you describe (tilt). The rest of the interior (e.g., outer A/C vents) is medium blue.

Already Gone 01-13-2018 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K (Post 8159390)
No one has mentioned that you have a Cheyenne Super, which is why you have the houndstooth, as well as the woodgrain on the dash. Only Cheyenne Supers (RPO YE9) got those two things and only those two things set the Cheyenne Super interior apart from the Cheyenne (Z84).

The reason the carpet, dash pad, steering wheel, and column are black is due to having the tilt wheel option. All tilt columns were black with matching wheel. Had your truck come with the standard column it would have been Sandalwood (tan) color and so would all those other black parts.

Another some did/some didn't, like the Cheyenne Super glove box door, is the outer A/C vents could be either body color or black. to match dash pad, column, etc. As far as some Cheyenne Supers getting the black glovebox door, I have never seen one painted any color but body color or black. For example, I have never seen a Sandalwood one when truck had standard column with Parchment interior


Am I missing something as I don't see the tilt marked on the spid, I don't think it was standard equipment on a Cheyenne Super. If I'm right then someone added the tilt which has the black column and changed out the saddlewood dash pad and saddlewood steering wheel which means the saddlewood carpet is correct for the truck ???

SoCoC10 01-13-2018 06:18 PM

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Here's a Cheyenne Super I restored a couple years ago. It had Parchment white seat belts. The Parchment and black are striking against the yellow and in your case would be equally striking against the Medium Bronze.

Keep in mind EVERYTHING that is not black shows up on the black carpet. If you are going to use floormats and are NOT going to use the truck regularly, I'd say go with the black carpet. If you are planning on using the truck pretty regularly and don't religiously use floormats you might look at a Saddle or Dark Saddle carpet.

SoCoC10 01-13-2018 07:23 PM

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No matter what you decide on for carpet, go to stockinteriors.com and look at or order a few samples. They sell ACC carpets which in my opinion are the best. DO NOT buy a houndstooth seat cover from them. They sell ACME seat covers and they are a lower quality/thickness vinyl. If you are going to buy a houndstooth seat cover, get one made by PUI(good quality) or Truck World(Excellent quality).

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 01-13-2018 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Already Gone (Post 8159708)
Am I missing something as I don't see the tilt marked on the spid, I don't think it was standard equipment on a Cheyenne Super. If I'm right then someone added the tilt which has the black column and changed out the saddlewood dash pad and saddlewood steering wheel which means the saddlewood carpet is correct for the truck ???

N33 per my SPID. That doesn't necessarily mean someone added your tilt later. Confirmation would be a build sheet.

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Originally Posted by SoCoC10 (Post 8159822)
No matter what you decide on for carpet, go to stockinteriors.com and look at or order a few samples. They sell ACC carpets which in my opinion are the best. DO NOT buy a houndstooth seat cover from them. They sell ACME seat covers and they are a lower quality/thickness vinyl. If you are going to buy a houndstooth seat cover, get one made by PUI(good quality) or Truck World(Excellent quality).

The interior in that top pic. is about the nicest I've seen. The CST badge on the door, was that factory on a 72?

jocko 01-13-2018 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K (Post 8159390)
No one has mentioned that you have a Cheyenne Super, which is why you have the houndstooth, as well as the woodgrain on the dash. Only Cheyenne Supers (RPO YE9) got those two things and only those two things set the Cheyenne Super interior apart from the Cheyenne (Z84).

The reason the carpet, dash pad, steering wheel, and column are black is due to having the tilt wheel option. All tilt columns were black with matching wheel. Had your truck come with the standard column it would have been Sandalwood (tan) color and so would all those other black parts.

Another some did/some didn't, like the Cheyenne Super glove box door, is the outer A/C vents could be either body color or black. to match dash pad, column, etc. As far as some Cheyenne Supers getting the black glovebox door, I have never seen one painted any color but body color or black. For example, I have never seen a Sandalwood one when truck had standard column with Parchment interior

Tim - I've never seen a non-tilt Super with parchment custom cloth (houndstooth) interior with a sandalwood dash pad, column etc. I thought all parchment houndstooth got a black carpet, but now I'm curious. Do you or does anyone have a pic of an original non-tilt super with parchment custom cloth interior that has sandalwood wheel/column etc?

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402 (Post 8159613)
Learn something new everyday.

I don't know if it's correct, but my 72 Super had the 558 paint code, which is a medium blue bottom and dark blue top. The interior is medium blue, but the glove box door is dark blue. I believe the glove box door is original and has the original SPID. I can also say someone repainted the interior medium blue, because of the sloppy work with runs. The column is black as you describe (tilt). The rest of the interior (e.g., outer A/C vents) is medium blue.

Please please please tell me you're gonna restore it to that Custom Two Tone!? That is one of my absolute favorite combos. Arggh, looks GREAT! And that is a very nice SPID, I'd hang onto that one.

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402 (Post 8159852)
N33 per my SPID. That doesn't necessarily mean someone added your tilt later. Confirmation would be a build sheet.

The interior in that top pic. is about the nicest I've seen. The CST badge on the door, was that factory on a 72?

Build Sheet and SPID RPOs should match - but you never know.

I believe the CST badge in 72 was only in a Z84 trim Blazer (i.e. Cheyenne level - as highlighted by the woodgrain doors) - (a Blazer was also the only way one could get plaid buckets). Blazer is also the exception to the 'Custom Deluxe for plaid' rule. On trucks, had to be a Custom Deluxe and plaid buckets weren't an option, had to be a bench.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 01-13-2018 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko (Post 8159990)
Please please please tell me you're gonna restore it to that Custom Two Tone!? That is one of my absolute favorite combos. Arggh, looks GREAT! And that is a very nice SPID, I'd hang onto that one.

It would be nice to, but I can't say I'm fond of the condition of the body, especially the cab. I doubt I'll ever restore this. 558 on a C-20 Super with a 402.......Man the truck was a beauty in its day.

special-K 01-14-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Already Gone (Post 8159708)
Am I missing something as I don't see the tilt marked on the spid, I don't think it was standard equipment on a Cheyenne Super. If I'm right then someone added the tilt which has the black column and changed out the saddlewood dash pad and saddlewood steering wheel which means the saddlewood carpet is correct for the truck ???

Got observations. I never looked at the SPID. I'd say all the black was added, same as the column and wheel, but you bring up another good point with Cheyenne Supers with Parchment interior w/o tilt. It's been a long time since I have looked at an original Cheyenne Super with Parchment & non-tilt. Now that you mention it, I have a pair of doors I pulled from one in the early-80s I parted and I am picturing that dash pad as black. I certanly don't recall it being Sandalwood. Same for carpet, IIRC. I know in '70s a non-tilt would be Sandalwood
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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402 (Post 8159852)
The interior in that top pic. is about the nicest I've seen. The CST badge on the door, was that factory on a 72?

I believe that one is a Blazer

Linz 01-14-2018 12:46 PM

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All intriguing stuff. To me it looks like the black items in the truck have been by far in there the longest as they are showing the most wear and tear. But im no expert. It looks like its been super well looked after but theres no way that carpet is 46 years old id say it had been added not long before i brought it and the seat cover im guessing is not stock. Thats why i was thinking they were the 2 things that had been changed out but who knows. The previous owner had a few bits and pieces that came with the truck including some new arm rests because the originals are looking a little aged. But they are a dark brown darker than the carpet again. Perhaps the PO didnt have much of a clue on what color scheme to go with let alone keeping it parchment

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 01-14-2018 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko (Post 8159990)
Build Sheet and SPID RPOs should match - but you never know.

I believe the CST badge in 72 was only in a Z84 trim Blazer (i.e. Cheyenne level - as highlighted by the woodgrain doors) - (a Blazer was also the only way one could get plaid buckets). Blazer is also the exception to the 'Custom Deluxe for plaid' rule. On trucks, had to be a Custom Deluxe and plaid buckets weren't an option, had to be a bench.

Agree with your point "should match". Only reason for my doubt is seems there were some RPO variances on the SPIDs. That and I had thought Super = tilt as well, but apparently not.

Ah yes, CST is Blazer. I had it confused with the Custom door badge, that were on 67-68 or something like. Maybe they were a GMC badge.

Linz 04-20-2018 10:07 PM

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Anybody know if the truckseats guy is till operating? I sent him a PM months ago regarding getting a houndstooth cover but have never heard anything back.

If he's a no go what are my other options for getting a houndstooth seat cover? Id like a quality one that will last.

Thanks


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