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60-66 01-04-2022 08:13 PM
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Here’s some pictures from one of the Lambrecht trucks. Exhaust and intake were painted on the engine as a unit. This is a 64 c10 with 4 miles on the odometer . This is original paint yet.

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Thank you! I've look throughout the internet and could never find an answer. Hopefully that will help someone else's Google search :lol:

cwcarpenter98 01-04-2022 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 60-66 (Post 9014785)
Here’s some pictures from one of the Lambrecht trucks. Exhaust and intake were painted on the engine as a unit. This is a 64 c10 with 4 miles on the odometer . This is original paint yet.

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That's interesting how the color looks to be slightly different. between intake and exhaust. Flash from the camera maybe? Heat affecting the color? Maybe just greasy making it look different?

That little spring on the exhaust flapper doesn't usually hang around all these years

60-66 01-04-2022 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cwcarpenter98 (Post 9014798)
That's interesting how the color looks to be slightly different. between intake and exhaust. Flash from the camera maybe? Heat affecting the color? Maybe just greasy making it look different?

That little spring on the exhaust flapper doesn't usually hang around all these years
Paint, hard to say why I guess. All these trucks spent their lives outside just sitting. Nebraska is a lot more forgiving than some areas climate wise . The test of time is all I can say. Certain things were amazing on some and others were pretty bad. The fact that the spring is there and excellent shape is something. Like many of the low mile trucks and cars, it was fun to see these details like paint on the exhaust manifolds still there

GranPanteraRoja 01-09-2022 10:00 PM
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60-66: Do you know about the paint pattern used on the transmission? My bell housing was completely painted blue but if anything was on the Muncie 318 it completely flaked or worn off. I have seen some trucks that had an overspray of blue across the bell housing and then the transmission was just bare and then others who have completely painted the bell housing and transmission blue to match the engine. It may be a plant to plant difference but I wasn't sure what was more common or "correct".

60-66 01-09-2022 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GranPanteraRoja (Post 9017095)
60-66: Do you know about the paint pattern used on the transmission? My bell housing was completely painted blue but if anything was on the Muncie 318 it completely flaked or worn off. I have seen some trucks that had an overspray of blue across the bell housing and then the transmission was just bare and then others who have completely painted the bell housing and transmission blue to match the engine. It may be a plant to plant difference but I wasn't sure what was more common or "correct".
It’s not a “Plant” thing . Engines were built and painted at the Flint Michigan engine plant and shipped out to body assembly plants . So overspray or bell housing paint was up to the guy doing it that day. If you get the book Chevrolet by the Numbers , it tells you what order Flint painted the engine and with what components were on the engine during the paint process. What it doesn’t say is 6 cylinder vs v8 .

60-66 01-09-2022 10:14 PM
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Also, the transmission from what I’m seeing is either bare casting or painted black from what I’ve been able to document from original trucks. There’s another person claiming that transmissions had red primer on them , but I have never seen that , just on transfer cases. Your best example is your own truck if those details can be uncovered by careful cleaning. Transmissions were not on the engine when painted.

GranPanteraRoja 01-10-2022 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 60-66 (Post 9017100)
Also, the transmission from what I’m seeing is either bare casting or painted black from what I’ve been able to document from original trucks. There’s another person claiming that transmissions had red primer on them , but I have never seen that , just on transfer cases. Your best example is your own truck if those details can be uncovered by careful cleaning. Transmissions were not on the engine when painted.
I appreciate the insights, thank you for the help. I enjoy learning the history of these trucks as much as I can and all of the differences that make each unique so I will definitely pick up your book recommendation. I hope to share my build soon on these forums, I'm not a complete factory purist but definitely prefer stock inspired restorations.

sodly 03-20-2022 07:28 PM
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Appears to be a beaut!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30440356120...47ca%7Ciid%3A1

chtr65 03-20-2022 09:08 PM
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Great truck. After viewing the eBay listing I must confirm two things. Chips in windshield confirms this truck once lived in Montana. Second, as someone here previously mentioned, these trucks left the factory with rust in the lower tail of the front fenders. Sodly, thanks for posting.

karlbenz 03-20-2022 09:30 PM
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I have a 66 gmc that is the most original I've ever seen. Wiring harness is still intact. v6 4 speed. radiator is gone. other than that under the hood is pretty much intact. The body is bad though

oem4me 03-21-2022 01:06 AM
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Looks like it's worthy of a closer inspection. Suspiciously clean wheels and other concerns, like remnants of green paint on bedwood, when claimed "has had no paintwork".

Rubbertiredtramp 03-21-2022 09:03 AM
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That 63 is a very nice looking truck, with just enough wear and tear to make look only a few years old, which is the look that I really like. And it has a drive train that I would really want, V6 and 4 speed, being a Canadian means that truck would probably cost me twice the 43K. I think I will keep the one I have the colour isn’t as nice and motor isn’t as desirable, but I have 10K into it, not 43+. Another thing we have to consider is that 10 years from now, what are these trucks going to be worth, maybe zip.

1971 GMC SHORTY 03-21-2022 09:15 AM
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Wonder Why it Has Rivets on Vin Tag?

forestb 03-21-2022 10:38 AM
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It has black rear wheel tubs is that stock?

factorystock 03-21-2022 07:00 PM
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Wonder Why it Has Rivets on Vin Tag?
Rivets are also used in this super low mileage '62 GMC. Probably same assembly plant, my guess Pontiac, Michigan.

factorystock 03-21-2022 07:04 PM
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It has black rear wheel tubs is that stock?
Fender tubs are also black on this super low mileage '62 GMC, probably same assembly plant, my guess, Pontiac Michigan.

factorystock 03-21-2022 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by oem4me (Post 9054287)
Looks like it's worthy of a closer inspection. Suspiciously clean wheels and other concerns, like remnants of green paint on bedwood, when claimed "has had no paintwork".
I agree, has some paint work on the wheels. Wheel color should be an off white, not a gloss white color. Color of inside of bed doesn't quite match the color of the outside for some reason. Needs closer inspection. But everything else looks pretty good, interior and exterior. What's nice about GMC 1/2 ton V6, it came with a 3.07 ratio and a rear leaf spring set up. Color appears to be a GMC only color, Terrace Blue

factorystock 03-21-2022 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sodly (Post 9054121)
Appears to be a beaut!
Thanks for posting Sodly, excellent addition to this thread.

Steeveedee 03-21-2022 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by factorystock (Post 9054691)
Rivets are also used in this super low mileage '62 GMC. Probably same assembly plant, my guess Pontiac, Michigan.
My understanding is that rosettes were used then, and these appear to be pop rivets. I wouldn't touch that truck with a 10 foot pole without seriously good documentation.

denverslim 03-21-2022 09:08 PM
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My '66 C-20 is pretty original. I bought it from the original owner. He thought it was too white when he got it from the dealer so he had the dealer paint the trim insets red.
I have repainted the boards in the bed and replaced the split rims with later model wheels. Other than that she's an original. Keith

Steeveedee 03-21-2022 11:03 PM
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My '66 C-20 is pretty original. I bought it from the original owner. He thought it was too white when he got it from the dealer so he had the dealer paint the trim insets red.
I have repainted the boards in the bed and replaced the split rims with later model wheels. Other than that she's an original. Keith
Red makes it go faster. ;) That is one nice looking truck!

EdWeeds 03-22-2022 03:50 PM
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I am new to this forum as I just purchased a "bone stock" 66 C10 SWB Step side. Somewhat rare MT 327. Seller/dealer said that a restoration was done in 2019, which appears to have been primarily cosmetic, repainting the frame and body (in original color) etc. Not sure where the fender badges are, maybe aftermarket replacement fenders. Original wiring has given me fits chasing down shorts and bad grounds. Other than a complete tune up and running some dedicated grounds I am probably going to leave it as is. Maybe power steering as tight turns are an effort.

60-66 03-22-2022 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 1971 GMC SHORTY (Post 9054467)
Wonder Why it Has Rivets on Vin Tag?
I cant focus, either on my computer or phone well enough to tell if thats actually a rivet or the factory spot welded tag . Wish we could get a closer look. If thats what your seeing , fine but when these were welded , sometimes it left a bigger impression in the tag. That GMC script on the tag cant be reproduced . Ive tried . One of my tags was severely damaged so I just straightened it the best I could


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Originally Posted by factorystock (Post 9054691)
Rivets are also used in this super low mileage '62 GMC. Probably same assembly plant, my guess Pontiac, Michigan.
1960-1962 GMC yes , round rivets . 1963-1964 was spot welded on GMC. 1964 they discovered these tags were falling off do to water getting behind them and freezing popping them off. This was mainly on cars of the era, not so much trucks. Then later they started using either rivets in 65 and some a combination has been found of one round and one Rosette .They went to all rosette rivets completely in 1966 . This is GMC only . Chevys were spot welded 60-64 , 65 round and rosette, 66 all rosette . This does have the P in the vin for Pontiac.

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 9054758)
My understanding is that rosettes were used then, and these appear to be pop rivets. I wouldn't touch that truck with a 10 foot pole without seriously good documentation.
Rosette was not used till 1965-1966

60-66 03-22-2022 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by oem4me (Post 9054287)
Looks like it's worthy of a closer inspection. Suspiciously clean wheels and other concerns, like remnants of green paint on bedwood, when claimed "has had no paintwork".
That paint in the bed , doesn't make sense ? Why is it not on the inner fenders ? Pontiac didn't paint the wood body color . I agree on the wheels , they definitely look redone and hubcaps look very nice .

Steeveedee 03-22-2022 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 60-66 (Post 9055166)
I cant focus, either on my computer or phone well enough to tell if thats actually a rivet or the factory spot welded tag . Wish we could get a closer look. If thats what your seeing , fine but when these were welded , sometimes it left a bigger impression in the tag. That GMC script on the tag cant be reproduced . Ive tried . One of my tags was severely damaged so I just straightened it the best I could




1960-1962 GMC yes , round rivets . 1963-1964 was spot welded on GMC. 1964 they discovered these tags were falling off do to water getting behind them and freezing popping them off. This was mainly on cars of the era, not so much trucks. Then later they started using either rivets in 65 and some a combination has been found of one round and one Rosette .They went to all rosette rivets completely in 1966 . This is GMC only . Chevys were spot welded 60-64 , 65 round and rosette, 66 all rosette . This does have the P in the vin for Pontiac.



Rosette was not used till 1965-1966
Huh, I learned something today! Thanks!


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