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70K10Hunter 10-04-2017 10:31 PM

NP 203 to NP205
 
K so I've been scouring the threads on this and it appears to be straight forward just want to double check my info.....I have a 77 GMC 3/4 4x4 it currently has a 203 bolted to a TH350 I am getting a 205 that was bolted to a th350. Can I use my existing transfer case cross member? I'm assuming that I will have to move it back a bit. What about drive shafts?

Undone 10-05-2017 06:27 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
Cross member will work front driveshaft needs to be shorter and rear longer.

sweetk30 10-05-2017 10:04 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
also make sure you get shifter parts . and adapters are t-case specific as with trans .

dont forget the female to female coupler sleeve for the 205 .

franken 10-05-2017 11:02 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
Make a doubler out of the 203 range box...

70K10Hunter 10-06-2017 07:02 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetk30 (Post 8054832)
also make sure you get shifter parts . and adapters are t-case specific as with trans .

dont forget the female to female coupler sleeve for the 205 .


I am getting the shifter, trans output coupler/adapter, and box.
the box I'm getting was already coupled to a TH350.
So I think I'm good.

abig84 10-07-2017 10:59 AM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
is it evengoing to bolt up? the adapter for the np203 is like a 1/4 inch thick where as the 205 is a few inches thick the transmission output shaft is going to be way to short

i wanted to run a np208 after i threw out my np203. i just brought the trans to a shop and had a longer output shaft installed

70K10Hunter 10-07-2017 11:08 AM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
I guess I will find out when it gets here. If it is too short I will get a different one and install it when I rebuild the tranny.

sweetk30 10-07-2017 05:25 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
th350 with 203 or 205 use same output shaft length in trans .

the 208 and 241 used another length .

El Dorado Jim 10-10-2017 11:59 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
it will bolt right up, you will need to move your crossmember and redrill holes in the frame if i remember right, I did this same conversion 30 years ago.

70K10Hunter 10-11-2017 06:32 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by El Dorado Jim (Post 8058440)
it will bolt right up, you will need to move your crossmember and redrill holes in the frame if i remember right, I did this same conversion 30 years ago.


Yes fully figured on that, my frame on my 77 like my 70K10 has 2 brackets just aft of the existing cross member on each side with a bolt already in one hole. I think that is where the CM will go. We'll see.
That actually got me thinking I wonder if a drive shaft out of a early 70, 71, 72 K10 or 20 would work???

abig84 10-14-2017 11:19 AM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetk30 (Post 8055917)
th350 with 203 or 205 use same output shaft length in trans .

the 208 and 241 used another length .

interesting. like i said in the previous post my np203 adapter is like 3/4 inch thick the adapter i have attached to a np205 is like 4 inches thick, but its for a th400transmission

i just remember trying to put a np208 onto a th350 and that out put shaft was no where near long enough, just had a trans shop put one in.

didnt know it was a different situation with the 205s and th350. learn something new everyday

sweetk30 10-14-2017 02:17 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
yes th305 203/205 same output on trans .

th400 203 is short output on trans .

th400 205 is 2 diffrent output shafts for the fig8 style short input 205 or the round 6 long input 205 .

70K10Hunter 10-19-2017 10:10 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
got my Tcase the other day I will check for fit this weekend after I pull the cab.

70K10Hunter 10-22-2017 12:09 AM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
So I pulled my cab today and then pulled the 203. The 205 bolted right up to my tranny no mods needed. Before I pulled anything I marked the location of the front of the trans with a straight edge then mounted everything, used same mounts and did not need to move the cross member. Its all good, now just need to do the drive shafts.

snj8198 10-22-2017 12:23 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
what's the length difference between the 203 and now the 205?

70K10Hunter 10-22-2017 03:07 PM

Re: NP 203 to NP205
 
the 203 is 22 1/4" and the 205 is 16" from mounting face to trans and to center on rear yoke.
so 6 1/4".


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