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lowlife4life 08-28-2013 10:43 AM

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Well I'm new to the posting but have been lurking for months. I just bought a 63 chev and a 61 GMC. The 63 is being built by me fully bagged and a 6.2 cts v engine. I bought the truck already sitting on a 98 1\2 ton frame. Which will not let it lay rockers without sectioning the bottom of frame so the plan is a 2 x4 full frame looking for some ideas for a front cross member the truck is being built on a somewhat budget any help would be greatly appreciated

gofastnut 08-28-2013 02:29 PM

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Wow! I was right there with you, until you said budget! Doh!
I know others will chime in, but budget wise, I think you'd be better off to section the frame, using new steel where needed, and not make a full 2x4 frame.
Then again, do what makes ya happy! ;)

lowlife4life 08-28-2013 06:17 PM

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The 98 frame is real bulky right where I'd have to z the frame don't mind spending just don't wanna have 3000 in a front x member
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62 bigwindow 08-28-2013 06:22 PM

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Seems like using the 63 stock chassis with Porterbuilt front and rear would be much much easier BUT I also fully understand the budget is a big factor.If you werent so far I have a 63 shortbed rolling frame and could make you a HECK of a deal

lowlife4life 08-28-2013 06:30 PM

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I have the stock chassis out o my 61 parts truck it's a option still. I bought the 63 already on the 98 and it doesn't fit real nice
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LVPhotos 08-28-2013 06:40 PM

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http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=556602&page=2

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1355966468

Pancake the crossmember. The 60-62 is a pain to lay low with the X frame.

lowlife4life 08-28-2013 06:51 PM

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Appreciate the info guys
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Captainfab 08-29-2013 01:08 AM

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That's why I always discourage trying to use the '88 and up frames as well as the '73-'87 frames. They just don't fit right, without a lot of work. IMO the '61 won't help you that much. What I would suggest is trying to find a '63-'72 frame. But before you sink another penny into that project, be sure you know what the laws are in your province regarding switching frames on a truck. Here in Idaho, you need titles for both as well as bills of sales for them. Otherwise your vehicle is subject to being confiscated and likely crushed.


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padresag 08-29-2013 01:59 AM

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here is a recent one how US Customs treat vehicles that are not up to snuff. the one scene sort of reminds of what a pit bull would be doing trying to rip a tire apart.
http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...152348269.html
ron

lowlife4life 08-29-2013 06:17 AM

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Your right about the 98 frame someone must've had it laying around. As for the laws. As long as the donor was not a total loss then it goes through a regular safety check If you use a total loss then it has to go through a structural inspection. In my own experience with back halves and bags the ministry of transport is looking for full lock to lock steer with no air and no dragging( haha ya right). Luckily I know of a few good shops that will treat you right as long as its not some hack job. I'm gonna build the frame from the fire wall back (with some extra hanging out ). Then worrie about the front at a later date
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lowlife4life 09-22-2013 10:20 PM

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So I had all my measurements written down. Key word is had. Can anyone help with a measurement from center of rear cab mount to c/l of rear wheels. Any help would be great

lowlife4life 09-24-2013 01:58 AM

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lowlife4life 09-24-2013 02:01 AM

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dhvgabriel 09-24-2013 12:20 PM

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i cant help at all as i am all new to this but i sure want to see were you end up hope it all goes smooth cant wait to your frame.

HOT WRECKS 09-24-2013 02:46 PM

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before you sink another penny into that project, be sure you know what the laws are in your province regarding switching frames on a truck. Here in Idaho, you need titles for both as well as bills of sales for them. Otherwise your vehicle is subject to being confiscated and likely crushed.

Here in Alberta almost anything goes. don't need the titles from either of the trucks. not even original serial # is required, but it does make it a little easier. No serial # no problem. just stop off at the R.C.M.P have one made up, then take it to an approved shop/mechanic. that can do an government safety inspection. then stop off at an registries with the inspection, get a license plate, throw it on your bumper. Insure it. AND BAM!! YOU CRUISING ALBERTA .That easy. That's I love Hot Rodding in Alberta:canada:

padresag 09-24-2013 04:17 PM

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Here in Alberta almost anything goes. don't need the titles from either of the trucks. not even original serial # is required, but it does make it a little easier. No serial # no problem. just stop off at the R.C.M.P have one made up, then take it to an approved shop/mechanic. that can do an government safety inspection. then stop off at an registries with the inspection, get a license plate, throw it on your bumper. Insure it. AND BAM!! YOU CRUISING ALBERTA .That easy. That's I love Hot Rodding in Alberta:canada:

that sounds pretty simple. sure your not stretching it a little?
you would never get it registered here in B.C.. wouldn't pass inspection even if you moved here with it or sold it to someone here
ron

lowlife4life 09-24-2013 04:47 PM

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What woul stop it from being registered on bc? Just wondering cause ill probably move there once I've had enough of work here?
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lowlife4life 09-24-2013 04:52 PM

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padresag 09-24-2013 05:20 PM

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they are a little more stringent here. you would have to have it inspected for road worthyness and they are sticky on modified frames. there is just 1 insurance company ICBC and they are also combined with the Prov. MVO. their way or the highway. mthey may ask for things like weld certificates on a welded frame.
I bought a 65 suburban that Came out of washington, all clear with registration for a wheel drive. only thing wrong was that i had an 84 4 x4 frame under it. guy couldn't get it registered here . It wouldn't pass inspection. I bought it for the body.
ron
in years past there use to be quite a few stolen cars that past between the 2 provinces. so there is also a good look at registration

lowlife4life 09-24-2013 07:28 PM

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HOT WRECKS 09-24-2013 10:24 PM

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that sounds pretty simple. sure your not stretching it a little?
ron

Find some Sh!t in a field, nail it together, buy a VIN#, have provincial safety inspection, register it. Drive it. It is that easy.
Got to love the WILD WILD WEST!

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lowlife4life that is one cool looking build table. looks like its floating.

Doors! yes I happen to have some extra doors. Are you in need? Yours don't look to bad.

Are the rear tires placed where there going to be? if so what is the wheelbase going to be? looks super short in the picture.

lowlife4life 09-25-2013 01:12 AM

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Got a great deal on the I beam at the local scrap yard. 2 20 ft long. Enough for a nice heavy car trailer when I'm done the truck. My drivers door I've already repaired ( corners on and out and got rid of the handles also. My passengers door the po decided to grind the old paint and half the metal off. Haven't scraped the idea of keeping it but if I could find some nice ones or one then I'd be better off I think. As for the wheelbase I'm not sure exactly thinking a touch longer than Swb. If so only a few inches and it probably looks short cause they are 24" wheels
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Captainfab 09-25-2013 01:12 AM

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Nice looking fab work Lowlife :thumbs:

Sounds like you guys up in Alberta have it made in regards to our 'hobby'

It's no where near that easy down here.


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