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The Rocknrod 11-21-2020 08:53 AM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
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Originally Posted by HO455 (Post 8412943)
Nice work. I like the bump stops. What are they off of?

Check out this page - https://www.suspension.com/universal-bump-stops.asp

HO455 11-21-2020 11:54 AM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
Thank you.

cab4word67 05-05-2021 11:27 AM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
Thanks everyone for all these reply's and the great write up. I am starting my 67 drop and want to keep my stock spindles due to a disc conversion and this will be great. Does anyone know what the aliening specs are to be after this mod?

SCOTI 05-05-2021 04:52 PM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
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Originally Posted by cab4word67 (Post 8917263)
Thanks everyone for all these reply's and the great write up. I am starting my 67 drop and want to keep my stock spindles due to a disc conversion and this will be great. Does anyone know what the aliening specs are to be after this mod?

Alignment specs will vary depending on the type of build & parts used. Some guys won't stray from OE specs.

OE called for Zero to POS .5 Camber. I target NEG .5 Camber.

For caster, I request as much as possible w/o impacting my Camber target. These C10's didn't have much Caster to begin with. If you can get 5° that's pretty decent (I was able to yield 6.9/7.4 for reference).

Toe was pretty close to OE. The larger/wider the foot-print, there might be need to adjust to account for the increased contact patch.

cab4word67 05-05-2021 08:58 PM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8917376)
Alignment specs will vary depending on the type of build & parts used. Some guys won't stray from OE specs.

OE called for Zero to POS .5 Camber. I target NEG .5 Camber.

For caster, I request as much as possible w/o impacting my Camber target. These C10's didn't have much Caster to begin with. If you can get 5° that's pretty decent (I was able to yield 6.9/7.4 for reference).

Toe was pretty close to OE. The larger/wider the foot-print, there might be need to adjust to account for the increased contact patch.

Thanks pretty much what I did on my 65 Mustang

HO455 05-18-2021 11:10 AM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
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Originally Posted by cab4word67 (Post 8917263)
Thanks everyone for all these reply's and the great write up. I am starting my 67 drop and want to keep my stock spindles due to a disc conversion and this will be great. Does anyone know what the aliening specs are to be after this mod?

I posted my alignment specifications on post 214.

67LS3GMC 04-15-2022 01:26 PM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
I know this is an old thread but I did this mod to my 67 and I have severe tire scrub when I turn, is it normal ?
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SCOTI 04-15-2022 02:21 PM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
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Originally Posted by 67LS3GMC (Post 9067314)
I know this is an old thread but I did this mod to my 67 and I have severe tire scrub when I turn, is it normal ?
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After re-aligning?
What are the final alignment specs?

67LS3GMC 04-15-2022 04:06 PM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
Not sure on caster need to find a shop I trust. Set at home Toe is 1/8" camber is close to 0. Drives good just when I back out of a parking spot and turn the wheels hard one of them will scrub bad (as in tear up grass or leave a black mark) they have a different turning radius from each other ?

SCOTI 04-15-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 67LS3GMC (Post 9067384)
Not sure on caster need to find a shop I trust. Set at home Toe is 1/8" camber is close to 0. Drives good just when I back out of a parking spot and turn the wheels hard one of them will scrub bad (as in tear up grass or leave a black mark) they have a different turning radius from each other ?

You'll def need to get it dialed in after the mod since it's a significant change. With the Caster Mod, guys are usually seeing around/over +5°. These trucks were lucky to ever see +3°.

I have 6.9/7.4 on my dually. Going from reverse to forward there is a shift but once you're moving it's not an issue. Toe needs to be dialed in as well.

HO455 04-15-2022 06:18 PM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
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Originally Posted by 67LS3GMC (Post 9067314)
I know this is an old thread but I did this mod to my 67 and I have severe tire scrub when I turn, is it normal ?
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Not normal! I did it on my 67 with no issues.

As previously recommended get thy truck to the alignment shop.

Now it is possible to install the upper control arms on the wrong sides and to put the centerlink on backwards. I have no idea how much of the front suspension you worked on but these are easy things to check before going to the alignment shop and trust me they are much cheaper to rectify at home, rather than when your truck is up on the rack.

Good luck and please share your findings.

67LS3GMC 04-15-2022 07:27 PM

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It was frame up build, all new components. 2" or 2-1/2 spindles (don't remember) 1" springs etc.

SCOTI 04-15-2022 09:31 PM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
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Originally Posted by 67LS3GMC (Post 9067504)
It was frame up build, all new components. 2" or 2-1/2 spindles (don't remember) 1" springs etc.

Ahhh.... Definitely verify the a-arms are on the correct sides & the Center-Link isn't backwards. I bet you're ok on the Center-Link because there's typically tie-rod to x-member interference when that occurs.

cab4word67 04-16-2022 01:12 AM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
how does one know if the upper control arms are backwards?

cwcarpenter98 04-16-2022 10:32 AM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
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Yeah, don't be like me and try to get it aligned with the UCAs on backwards. It won't work well.
Fist picture shows them on backwards. See how there's more angle between the UCA and the top of the spindle?
Second picture shows them on the correct side. Look at how the UCA and top of the spindle are sitting more parallel.
You want to have the bump stop towards the rear of the truck.

cab4word67 04-16-2022 10:45 AM

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Yes I see, the spindle is more in line with the front UCA mounting bolt too.

67LS3GMC 04-16-2022 12:39 PM

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Yes A-arms on correct side, as my helper double checked all my work on the truck.

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...1&d=1650127136

dhigdon@southerntank 12-29-2022 08:43 AM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
So if I use tubular control arms for my 67 build I will not have this caster issue, is that correct?

SCOTI 12-29-2022 09:27 AM

Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
 
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Originally Posted by dhigdon@southerntank (Post 9160743)
So if I use tubular control arms for my 67 build I will not have this caster issue, is that correct?

Depends on the arms.

Some tubular arms are nothing more than a copy of the OE stamped steel arm while others might refine some of the geometry by making changes.


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