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dolphans1 06-15-2018 12:34 AM

How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck?
 
How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck? Is it possible or recommended?


I really don't know how to ask this question without sounding stupid, but I have an older 1956 Chevy Truck all original with the original oil bath style of air-filter breather.

Can you buy an air type style of air filter to run it as a regular air filter, without the oil inside the same canister?

Is the carb jetted specifically for the oil style breather?

Does it affect performance?

Also I'd like to paint the outside of air filter body top and bottom - do you recommend engine paint or can this things be powder coated?

Thanks .

https://s5.postimg.cc/c5igy8mev/56_oil_breather.jpg

mr48chev 06-15-2018 01:40 AM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
I'm not sure about the jetting and the hard core stock just like it left the factory brigade will be protesting in front of your driveway.

On the other hand first thing I would do is take some measurements and start looking in the measurement section of the air filter catalog.

Round = a given Outside diameter, inside diameter and height. Wix has an easy to navigate chart for filters by size.

Things to remember when you get done cutting it has to seal on both top and bottom of the filter. you need enough space between the wall of the metal housing and the element for sufficient air flow and enough space where the air enters for decent air flow.

mikebte 06-15-2018 11:40 AM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
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I can not remember the part number for the life of me, but I did this some time ago when I was running the 6 Cylinder. If my memory serves me right, I think the filter was out of a Chrysler application.

mikebte 06-15-2018 01:10 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
Found it, I had originally posted to the link below.

https://talk.classicparts.com/thread...-filter.13733/

Used a CA146 FRAM filter. It was cheep. The K&N is P/N:E-1000

The filter did seal on the bottom, but the surface is slanted. If you could weld or epoxy a flat surface to the bottom sealing surface you would have a nice setup.


I love the oil bath. I am a fan of the oil bath myself. But after lots and lots of hear say I did the research. Found out that GM switch due to they had engine life increase after just swapping a paper filter in the oil baths place. Later on they figured out paper was in fact cleaner. Oil bath is great but it is not the best! GM also found that engine life was greater after running the PCV air intake to the air cleaner, this increased engine life by 40% as opposed to the valve cover air intake. I went threw a lot of old books and lots of searching to find this info. Now, if you ask anyone that has a oil bath what is better, they will insist on oil bath. Oil bath was for the most part better then nothing. The SAE has set standards for air filters and they must clean so good to pass. Oil bath dose not clean dust that well, the idea of oil bath is that it makes a 180 degree bend and slams the air into the oil and then hope the heavier partials would drop into the oil. Oil wetted air filters such as K&N have claim some of the best filtration around, I am currently experimenting with the AEM dry flow filters and also run paper and K&N filters.

dolphans1 06-15-2018 05:47 PM

I found this on a search. http://www.classicpartsusa.com/product/ACF36_1956/1956_Truck_Parts_Carburetor_Items?gclid=Cj0KCQjwx43ZBRCeARIsANzpzb_TkIM11EUj0RTaenvMldox5sQ2hNpWMv5v V7nLKPsMxBJAMozY6ZcaAnNnEALw_wcB
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dolphans1 06-15-2018 05:49 PM

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I found this on a search. http://www.classicpartsusa.com/product/ACF36_1956/1956_Truck_Parts_Carburetor_Items?gclid=Cj0KCQjwx43ZBRCeARIsANzpzb_TkIM11EUj0RTaenvMldox5sQ2hNpWMv5v V7nLKPsMxBJAMozY6ZcaAnNnEALw_wcB
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mikebte 06-15-2018 05:59 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
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Seems a little small for a main air filter. Maybe its for multiple carburetor set up.

mikebte 06-15-2018 06:04 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
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Are you looking to change out the whole set up for something such as this? Cause that is kind of what it's sounding like.

http://forums.devestechnet.com/forum...e-design-truck

dolphans1 06-16-2018 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mikebte (Post 8281846)
I can not remember the part number for the life of me, but I did this some time ago when I was running the 6 Cylinder. If my memory serves me right, I think the filter was out of a Chrysler application.

Precisely, like that orange looking style fram filter for the single barrel carburetor. Do you recall the number?
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mr48chev 06-16-2018 01:33 AM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
That Fram CA146 also comes out as a WIX 42011 or some other numbers.
If you click on the blue 42011 it shows what it fits. https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/fr...ir+filter,6192

Specs are https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...k=360104&jsn=3

dolphans1 06-16-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mr48chev (Post 8282333)
That Fram CA146 also comes out as a WIX 42011 or some other numbers.
If you click on the blue 42011 it shows what it fits. https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/fr...ir+filter,6192

Specs are https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...k=360104&jsn=3

Thanks, I was always taught that oil attracts dirt and dust and would prefer they dry paper filter over the oil bath style. I now wonder if an autozone or O’Reilys carries them.
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dolphans1 10-19-2018 07:06 PM

Re: Follow-up an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
Hello Guys,

I have a follow-up question to my oil bath air-filter case.

The top of the air-filter that sits on to of the bottom case holding the filter, where can I buy that rubber round "O" ring gasket that seals to top cover (on bottom of top of the lid cover) to main bottom case which houses the actual air-filter.

I called LMC truck and no one knew its almost 7"3/4 - 8" inches in diameter, I did a search online and did not find anything.

Anyone know?

Thanks !

mongocanfly 10-19-2018 08:07 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
If its a o ring you can have one made for it...our local parts store has the ability and so does the bearing and seal place in town

1project2many 10-19-2018 08:11 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
You may end up at a place that services hydraulic cylinders for that O-ring. You may get away with Nitrile but I'd look for Neoprene or Viton if available. The "flat O ring" may be known as face cut, lathe cut, or square cut depending on the manufacturer. You might be shocked at the prices though. MSC direct shows a 7" OD Buna-N ring at about $14 but prices seem to go up as high as $300.

You could also buy sheets of Neoprene and make your own. Grainger sells a 12" X 12" X 1/8" sheet for $5.60. I'd feel like I could try twice at that price.

dolphans1 10-19-2018 09:04 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
Here is what I did tonight, I flipped the older gasket around and used pliobond and reused it. There's a small gap due to shrinkage, do you think this will work? There's a small gap there.

https://i.postimg.cc/nzJBgr7s/Air-filter-gasket.jpg

dolphans1 10-19-2018 09:06 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
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Originally Posted by mikebte (Post 8282072)
Are you looking to change out the whole set up for something such as this? Cause that is kind of what it's sounding like.

http://forums.devestechnet.com/forum...e-design-truck

Sorry I missed your response Mike and Thanks, I was going with the original setup. I never got the email response you replied and have not been online much.

mikebte 10-19-2018 09:57 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
I put a little oil on the face of the air filter cause the metal sat on the filter and creates a seal. The seal you speak about was not used in my set up.

dolphans1 10-19-2018 10:06 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
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Originally Posted by mikebte (Post 8367895)
I put a little oil on the face of the air filter cause the metal sat on the filter and creates a seal. The seal you speak about was not used in my set up.

Thanks Mike for the advice.

cmayna 10-19-2018 10:14 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
Instead of converting an oil bath filter, why not just get a dry filter of the right height and carb diameter? Couple years ago, I switched my oil filter to a dry filter.

Craig

dolphans1 10-19-2018 10:50 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
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Originally Posted by cmayna (Post 8367907)
Instead of converting an oil bath filter, why not just get a dry filter of the right height and carb diameter? Couple years ago, I switched my oil filter to a dry filter.

Craig

That's exactly what I am trying to do, convert to dry versus oil but keep the same canister.

dolphans1 10-20-2018 01:48 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
https://i.postimg.cc/hPPKx4Bb/air-cleaner-Fram.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/RVs4TrCr/air-cleaner-closed.jpg

Here's my set-up.

cmayna 10-20-2018 09:18 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
Very nice work.

dolphans1 10-20-2018 09:52 PM

Re: How to convert an oil bath air-filter to an air type filter on a 1956 Chevy Truck
 
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Originally Posted by cmayna (Post 8368521)
Very nice work.

Thanks Craig.


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