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GRADYS Performance 12-18-2013 02:56 PM

85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
I am preparing to change the TH400 in my 85 2WD C20 Suburban 454 to a 4L80E transmission. Does anyone have experience with what needs to be done for the crossmember?

68Timber 12-18-2013 06:47 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
How to here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=574800

GRADYS Performance 12-19-2013 11:27 AM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
No details in that thread about the cross member modifications.

68Timber 12-19-2013 11:43 AM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
I think he said he used the stock cross member with the 4L80E mount.

CamaroChris 12-20-2013 12:39 AM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
when I put an 6.0l/4l80e in my 86 Suburban (originally a 350/th400) I used Dirty Dingo mounts. all I had to do was re-drill the cross member holes in the frame around 1.5" back. but the cross member its self needed no modification. The 4l80e trans bushing bolted right to the cross member.

GRADYS Performance 01-14-2014 05:17 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
I am starting this swap project. I have the transmission and torque converter complete and ready to install. Transmission is fresh overhauled with a shift kit, manual speedometer output housing with gears and deep aluminum pan.

I will try to update with progress and pictures as I work on it and make progress.

GRADYS Performance 05-10-2014 03:06 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Moved the transmission crossmember back to line up the front crossmember bolt holes with the rear bolt holes in the frame and the mount on the transmission lines up perfectly. Drilled new rear holes in the frame using the crossmember as a template and bolted everything up. Transmission and torque converter are now installed and bolted in.

GRADYS Performance 07-14-2014 10:50 AM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Driveshaft shortened 3-3/8 inches and re installed. Cooler lines from TH400 moved back 2-3 inches and re bent to fit 91-96 4L80E case.

GRADYS Performance 07-26-2014 09:26 AM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Installing the TCI Transmission control unit and TPS sensor this weekend, That just leaves the shifter linkage and speedometer cable left to finish up.

GRADYS Performance 09-03-2014 02:55 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
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Finished up the installation and drove it several times pulling my boat. Really satisfied with the results. Tinkered around with the controller settings to get a good shift feeling. And the Lockup converter settings based on MPH and TPS percentage. Mileage is much better what used to take a full tank is now down to about 3/4 tank for a vacation trip.

Pictures of the transmission with the TCI deep aluminum pan and the Mechanical Speedometer tail housing so I can use my original speedometer. Low stall torque converter for the 454.

68Timber 09-03-2014 03:09 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Good to hear it. Any idea how much the entire conversion ran? I know the controllers can get pricey.

GRADYS Performance 09-03-2014 03:19 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
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Pictures of the cross member moved back 3.75" with a 4L80E mount.

GRADYS Performance 09-03-2014 03:57 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 6828735)
Good to hear it. Any idea how much the entire conversion ran? I know the controllers can get pricey.

The complete conversion can vary depending on what you do for a transmission and converter, Year of vehicle you are putting it in for Speedometer use, Cross member modifications and Controller with TPS if needed.

The Transmission controller I used was a TCI TCU unit #302820 which cost $614.00, TCI Remote TPS for the Carburetor cost $142.00 and the cable bracket to mount the remote TPS cable to the carb is TCI part #376700 and cost is $23.00.

GRADYS Performance 09-03-2014 04:02 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
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Driveshaft shortened 3-3/8" the difference in case length between the TH400 and the 4L80E Transmissions with the bolt on yoke

GRADYS Performance 09-03-2014 04:18 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
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Engine RPM at 65 MPH with 235/85/16 tires with the TH400 was about 2700, with the 4L80E and the converter locked the RPM is about 1950. What a difference a .75 Overdrive and a Lock Up Torque Converter make.

Computer cable plug on side of transmission.

84chevyguyid 09-03-2014 11:22 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Lookin good! Who sells the speedo tail housing?

68Timber 09-04-2014 08:36 AM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Thanks for an excellent how-to and pics. Any plans for fuel injection?

GRADYS Performance 09-04-2014 01:32 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 84chevyguyid (Post 6829386)
Lookin good! Who sells the speedo tail housing?

I sent a PM to you about the Speedometer conversion kit that we offer.

GRADYS Performance 09-04-2014 01:34 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 6829636)
Thanks for an excellent how-to and pics. Any plans for fuel injection?

Thanks for the compliment.

No plans for fuel injection at this time. It would be a nice update if I ever decide to do it.

GRADYS Performance 09-08-2014 01:03 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
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Picture of the shifter linkage. Moved frame bracket back putting front bracket hole in rear frame hole and dropping down about 1/4". Lengthened shifter rod down from column by 2".

slimneverdies 03-09-2015 04:11 AM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GRADYS Performance (Post 6829947)
I sent a PM to you about the Speedometer conversion kit that we offer.

Is it possible you could send me that info also?

GRADYS Performance 03-09-2015 03:23 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slimneverdies (Post 7082133)
Is it possible you could send me that info also?

I sent a PM to you about the mechanical speedometer conversion for the 4L80E.

Hankster 03-11-2015 07:47 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Nice write up, I have been thinking about the swap with my 454 swapped c10 if you could please send me that info also! Thank you!

GRADYS Performance 03-11-2015 08:18 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hankster (Post 7086131)
Nice write up, I have been thinking about the swap with my 454 swapped c10 if you could please send me that info also! Thank you!

I sent a PM to you about the speedometer conversion.

72MARIO 03-12-2015 12:28 PM

Re: 85 Suburban TH400 to 4L80E swap
 
Any reason not to post the speedo conversion info here ? I am interested too. Do you sell the kit ?


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