The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/index.php)
-   The 1947 - 1959 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=13)
-   -   47-55.1 Danforth Cross Member Install (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=670981)

Coach529 05-17-2015 08:44 PM

Danforth Cross Member Install
 
After weighing all my options, I have a Danforth Cross Member on the way. IMO it is the most cost efficient way to do a IFS in a AD truck while using the stock frame. Cost of the Cross Member is $500.00 plus freight.

There are some build threads on the interweb, but nothing yet I have seen from start to finish, and it took a lot of reading to find them.

I am planning on this install late fall, but have already started looking for donor parts.

The pictures below are some that I have saved from build threads and off Facebook.

http://kustomcreations.smugmug.com/O...827180_n-L.jpg

http://kustomcreations.smugmug.com/O...826352_n-M.jpg

The Cross Member is based on GM metric geometry, which is the 1978-1987 GM G-bodies, parts of the F bodies, and the S/T bodies which includes the S-10 and S-15.

Coach529 05-17-2015 08:45 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
https://www.facebook.com/ADTruckBuilds

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=569491&page=6

fine69 05-18-2015 08:48 AM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Looks sweet. I will be looking for pictures of your upper A-arms installed.

Coach529 05-18-2015 10:19 AM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fine69 (Post 7176531)
Looks sweet. I will be looking for pictures of your upper A-arms installed.

At this time I am not sure if I will notch to clear the uppers, or just run Tubular A Arms.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1379196833

http://kustomcreations.smugmug.com/O...O/IMG_2221.jpg

Dan in Pasadena 05-18-2015 07:21 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Danforth Crossmember? Okay, I'll say it: Never heard of them.

ghettoluxury 05-18-2015 09:32 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena (Post 7177297)
Danforth Crossmember? Okay, I'll say it: Never heard of them.

This kit was designed by Scott Danforth to use GM metric suspension on the 47-54 frames. He is an active member on Stove Bolt and The Hamb. He now builds them for others to use for a low dollar alternative to ifs / S10 swaps.

ricott 05-18-2015 10:54 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
I'm sure you know it, but you can use the 2WD 98 and up Blazer steering knuckle/sealed bearing spindle/ and duel piston brakes on the G Body setup. These are really cheap in the salvage yards (just bought a complete set to upgrade the brakes on an S10. If you really want to go all out, you can use the 2WD blazer steering knuckle and sealed bearing, buy an $85 bracket, and bolt 5th generation Corvette brakes and rotors on the front. Love your build, looking forward to your upgrades.
Ricky

Coach529 05-19-2015 07:54 AM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena (Post 7177297)
Danforth Crossmember? Okay, I'll say it: Never heard of them.

You have to kinda dig to find info. He does not advertise at all.

Coach529 05-19-2015 09:43 AM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ricott (Post 7177639)
I'm sure you know it, but you can use the 2WD 98 and up Blazer steering knuckle/sealed bearing spindle/ and duel piston brakes on the G Body setup. These are really cheap in the salvage yards (just bought a complete set to upgrade the brakes on an S10. If you really want to go all out, you can use the 2WD blazer steering knuckle and sealed bearing, buy an $85 bracket, and bolt 5th generation Corvette brakes and rotors on the front. Love your build, looking forward to your upgrades.
Ricky

Great info.....I will have to do some digging. Finding a 2WD Blazer up here is going to be tough.

Coach529 05-19-2015 09:45 AM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
http://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/...1096035&page=1

ChuckDriver 05-25-2015 08:49 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
That cross member looks nice, looking forward to seeing it installed!

Coach529 05-26-2015 08:49 AM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Thanks, I am super excited to install it.

I found a donor truck, I just need to find the time to strip the front suspension off it.

To get to my preferred ride height, Scott is suggesting drop spindles, so I need to order those as well.

T Hilde 05-26-2015 05:28 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Could you notch the bottom of the frame to raise the cross member and eliminate the need to notch for a arm clearance?

racer357 05-26-2015 05:30 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
raising/ notching the cross member into the frame lowers the truck even more, it's discussed in the thread on stove bolt. Seem like the hard way when you can buy dropped springs and spindles or easily use air bags, but Mr. Danforth notched a frame to accomplish it.

T Hilde 05-26-2015 05:44 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
I guess it would have been better to say "I should have done this" instead of giving up on that unit in my truck.

racer357 05-26-2015 05:46 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
So you have a Danforth member and decided not to use it?

T Hilde 05-26-2015 10:54 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Had one, installed it, got cheesed off because the steering wasn't completely developed and traded the chassis away to do a dakota swap.

racer357 05-26-2015 11:15 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Right on. I am in the process of ordering one, if you had one to get rid of I was ready to drive north! LOL!

I will post photos of mine going together.

Coach529 05-27-2015 02:09 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T Hilde (Post 7186559)
Could you notch the bottom of the frame to raise the cross member and eliminate the need to notch for a arm clearance?

The location of the cross member determines ride height. My desired ride height is pretty much the same as I am running now. Scott suggests a 1-1/2" bottom notch and 2" drop spindles for me to achieve this. Once I get it mocked up I will see if I need to notch the frame to clear the stock upper A Arms.

The top notch is still avoidable with a tubular upper A arm, which are pretty affordable.

http://www.ubmachine.com/uppermetric.html

Coach529 05-31-2015 07:27 AM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Random Notes:

Donors-


Any 1982-2004 S-10, S-15, T-10, T-15, S-10 Blaser, Sonoma, Hombre, Bravada, Jimmy, Cyclone, Typhon, etc. Technically GMT-325 and GMT-330 chassis

These are the same stampings as any A/G body which is any 1978-1987 Malibu, Regal, Monte Carlo, Cutlass, El Camino, Gran National, etc.

Coach529 05-31-2015 07:30 AM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Rack and Pinion:

"the 1993-1997 Camaro or Firebird. in 1998, they changed the angle of the pinion and it hits the frame. simply cut off 4-1/8" off the inner tie rod ends and rethread.

however if you desire, a ford exploder or dodge durango/dakota rack and pinion can be used as well."

"The 87 Tbird rack I used goes stop to stop on stock S10 spindles. I haven't driven it yet but i'm expecting a turn radius about the same as a long bed S10"

dwcsr 06-01-2015 09:41 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
The 87 Tbird I used came up a bit short on turning once we have this on the ground and actually driving it was about 3/4" from the stop ,not bad Its just not where I want it. I have a 97/98 Mark Viii rack on the way that turns 6.88" lock to lock and should take care of that issue. The Tbird rack was 5.33" lock to lock. I believe it has the same mountings. I'll post what I find out when I get it

Coach529 06-02-2015 09:21 AM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dwcsr (Post 7194611)
The 87 Tbird I used came up a bit short on turning once we have this on the ground and actually driving it was about 3/4" from the stop ,not bad Its just not where I want it. I have a 97/98 Mark Viii rack on the way that turns 6.88" lock to lock and should take care of that issue. The Tbird rack was 5.33" lock to lock. I believe it has the same mountings. I'll post what I find out when I get it

That is good info to know. Do you have a resource that tells you the specs of the rack and pinion?

I am pulling parts from a 1995 Thunderbird (same as 1995 Mark Series) and have access to that rack.

racer357 06-02-2015 03:39 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
I am going to use a Sweet power servo rack in mine from stock car racing.

Coach529 06-02-2015 03:48 PM

Re: Danforth Cross Member Install
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by racer357 (Post 7195498)
I am going to use a Sweet power servo rack in mine from stock car racing.

How much do those run?


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:54 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com