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49chevy3100 02-06-2017 01:57 AM

Finally my 49 s10 frame swap ls1/t56
 
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Finally got her VIN verified and weighted should be getting license plates and tags within next couple of weeks.
91 s10 extended cab I'll be shortening the frame 5" to get the right wheel base.
Plan for engine is ls1 mated to t56 maybe do mid shifter to fit with the bench seat or leave as is if I end up upgrading to bucket seats.
Will do the 4x4 rear end so that will give me disk brakes all around.
Sold the 4.3/700r4 was originally going to use but plans changed and Saving up for the ls1/t56.

49chevy3100 02-06-2017 02:46 PM

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another post I did most likely posted it in the wrong spot but More pictures of her and the s10 when I first got it.
http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=692256

gigamanx 02-07-2017 08:47 PM

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Subscribed. I am doing an S10 swap with the stock 4.3 V6 auto. Eventually will want to swap for an LS. Haven't decided on trans yet. Rear end seemed like an easy decision until I started down the google rabbit hole. I'll be interested to see which you end up choosing. The S10 Blazer 4x4 8.5 rear seems to be the closest to stock option for the S10 chassis.

mongocanfly 02-07-2017 11:41 PM

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Just keep in mind the zr2 rear ends are 3" wider than a standard s10 rear..and the zr2 comes with 3.73 gears and a g80 locker and disc brakes

49chevy3100 02-08-2017 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gigamanx (Post 7851644)
Subscribed. I am doing an S10 swap with the stock 4.3 V6 auto. Eventually will want to swap for an LS. Haven't decided on trans yet. Rear end seemed like an easy decision until I started down the google rabbit hole. I'll be interested to see which you end up choosing. The S10 Blazer 4x4 8.5 rear seems to be the closest to stock option for the S10 chassis.

Yea think I'm going S10 blazer rear since it will be easier to swap from what I have researched
I still have to tear down the S10 haven't had much time now that I'm remodeling master bedroom in my house seems like endless work should be done by end of month hopefully and I'll have time to actually get this rolling.

youngrodder 02-08-2017 11:24 PM

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Unless you shorten a Zr2 rearend it is too wide. For my 53 suburban I had to shorten mine a total of 8.5" to fit as I wanted it to and still be able to run a 9" or 10" wide rim.

Marc

49chevy3100 02-08-2017 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 7852923)
Unless you shorten a Zr2 rearend it is too wide. For my 53 suburban I had to shorten mine a total of 8.5" to fit as I wanted it to and still be able to run a 9" or 10" wide rim.

Marc

Yea I want to run wider wheels in the back maybe be running 600hp on a turbo set up

mongocanfly 02-08-2017 11:47 PM

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600hp?...you may want something a little stouter than a s10 rear..mine is going to start life out at around 450hp and I've got a 9" for mine..the more tire you put on the ground the harder its going to be on the rear..especially if you start banging on it with a t56.
I broke 4 resplined 9" axles with a under 400hp smallblock auto and 10" tires before I went with moser axles..

49chevy3100 02-09-2017 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mongocanfly (Post 7852946)
600hp?...you may want something a little stouter than a s10 rear..mine is going to start life out at around 450hp and I've got a 9" for mine..the more tire you put on the ground the harder its going to be on the rear..especially if you start banging on it with a t56.
I broke 4 resplined 9" axles with a under 400hp smallblock auto and 10" tires before I went with moser axles..

I don't plan on beating the he'll out of it but do plan on taking it to track the 1/4 mile see what it can do. I also researched about the Ford explorer trac rear end 3.73 gears LSD but not sure guess when time comes what ever I can find at the time I'll do that.

49chevy3100 02-09-2017 10:15 AM

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Picture I took we been having a lot of rain lately here in Cali

49chevy3100 08-07-2017 04:47 PM

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So it's been forever that I last posted something. Since the last post I finally got the tags and plates, Waited so long for tags to get here I received a letter from DMV that I needed to get insurance or else my reg would get suspended so went with AAA since all my cars have it.Sold the s10 rear end to a friend my local pick n pull had a 50% off weekend and got my self a ford 8.8 3.73 limited slip disk brakes with sway bar and driveshaft for 180$.and since I been paying insurance and not driving the thing finally said F*** it and bought a Vortec 5.7 tbi mated to 4L60E for 400$ for now so I can get the thing on the road later will still do the LS1/T56.

49chevy3100 08-07-2017 05:21 PM

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5.7 4L60e

49chevy3100 08-07-2017 05:35 PM

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Explorer 8.8 rear anyone know for sure if has to be shorten down or can it be used as is seen acouple videos on YouTube that have been used as is but they don't mention if it's the explorer rear or mustang rear if no ones I'll be finding out later this week since I'll be installing it. Will add pictures and details.

gigamanx 08-07-2017 08:34 PM

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That engine looks familiar. I just took mine apart and put it back to carbureted :) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=741282

NorCalGal 08-07-2017 09:58 PM

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Explorer 8.8 is the right width fits perfect. The leaf spring perches on the rear end need to be moved about 1/2 on each side.

49chevy3100 08-07-2017 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gigamanx (Post 8011043)
That engine looks familiar. I just took mine apart and put it back to carbureted :) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=741282

Nice we basically have the same set up was double reading you progress, I have a new born son going on 3 months now tough trying to fit everything in. Yea just picked up engine on Sunday guy said was complete with harness PCM now that I'm double checking everything I see that he cut the pcm side of the harness right at firewall:waah: so now I'm debating go carb or try go to local pick a part and get the rest of harness or complete harness

49chevy3100 08-07-2017 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalGal (Post 8011151)
Explorer 8.8 is the right width fits perfect. The leaf spring perches on the rear end need to be moved about 1/2 on each side.

Nice great to hear that, beside the different lug pattern from the front I think it was a great deal good thing I had a set of universal 5 lug rims that fit on both

joedoh 08-07-2017 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 49chevy3100 (Post 8011160)
Nice we basically have the same set up was double reading you progress, I have a new born son going on 3 months now tough trying to fit everything in. Yea just picked up engine on Sunday guy said was complete with harness PCM now that I'm double checking everything I see that he cut the pcm side of the harness right at firewall:waah: so now I'm debating go carb or try go to local pick a part and get the rest of harness or complete harness


read up on the harness mods you need first, the engine doesnt necessarily need the interior harness to run if its been flashed

49chevy3100 08-07-2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joedoh (Post 8011184)
read up on the harness mods you need first, the engine doesnt necessarily need the interior harness to run if its been flashed

The guy cut harness at firewall and since pcm Is under dash he didnt include the pcm plugs

joedoh 08-07-2017 11:41 PM

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OH! is it a tbi? you are right and I am wrong, I thought it was a poppet engine.

Root2812 08-07-2017 11:55 PM

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I have the 8.8 out of a 2000 explorer in my truck. Its about perfect. I ended up using a TCI rear leaf kit on the stock frame so I had to change the leaf perches anyway. I didn't want the miss matched bolt pattens either so I went with a mustang II kit but I am using the stock frame and not an S10.

49chevy3100 08-08-2017 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by joedoh (Post 8011228)
OH! is it a tbi? you are right and I am wrong, I thought it was a poppet engine.

Yea it's TBI but thanks for the suggestion ended up finding a good harness schematic and a diy harness clean up so I'll have a clean looking harness still gotta go get the PCM clips hopefully find one that's been taken apart already :metal:

49chevy3100 08-08-2017 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Root2812 (Post 8011237)
I have the 8.8 out of a 2000 explorer in my truck. Its about perfect. I ended up using a TCI rear leaf kit on the stock frame so I had to change the leaf perches anyway. I didn't want the miss matched bolt pattens either so I went with a mustang II kit but I am using the stock frame and not an S10.

Nice assuring yea plan was to adjust the perches hopefully it fit. Tried to look at your build but pictures stopped working. Do you still have the pictures of your build?

gigamanx 08-08-2017 09:07 AM

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PM me, I have the harness sitting here that I was given. I can't use it, so I bought a wiring kit for my truck. If you can use it, I'm happy to send it over and get it out of my garage. I think we did find the 4 PCM plugs, but I wasn't given the PCM. My own fault for not checking. I also was supposedly given the accessories for the engine only to find that its a random assortment of things that don't fit lol. Lesson learned, test fit everything before handing over the money :)

49chevy3100 08-08-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gigamanx (Post 8011387)
PM me, I have the harness sitting here that I was given. I can't use it, so I bought a wiring kit for my truck. If you can use it, I'm happy to send it over and get it out of my garage. I think we did find the 4 PCM plugs, but I wasn't given the PCM. My own fault for not checking. I also was supposedly given the accessories for the engine only to find that its a random assortment of things that don't fit lol. Lesson learned, test fit everything before handing over the money :)


Just PMd you. When I was there checking out the engine everything seemed like it was there since the harness seemed to have everything and I saw PCM so I thought I was golden and headed home:truck:. Should have checked oh yea and on the way home 2nd or 3rd turn I hear a huge crash. The engine had flipped on its side guess the guy didn't tighten the straps just pulled them through. Yea definitely learned my lesson always do it yourself and double check everything


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