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MattPSU 12-30-2013 02:29 PM

Porterbuilt Stage 1 Front and Rear Kit Chart
 
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When I was looking for info on Porterbuilt's Stage 1 kits, I found very few before and after pictures for comparison purposes. So when I decided to go this route, I figured that I would take some pictures of my truck in the same place, from the same angle before and after installing the Stage 1 kits.

Once I got to this point, I decided I wanted to go lower, so I added McGaughy's 2.5" drop spindles. Then I wanted to go lower in the rear, so I added Porterbuilt's 2 piece bolt in notch.

I took pictures of the truck aired up and aired out after every change so that others could see what results come from various combination of parts.

Now that I have my truck where I want it, I put together the chart below with some of the pictures.

FYI - Since adding the notch, I basically have the Stage 2 rear kit in the bottom two pictures.

Some measurements from the ground to the top of the wheel arch in the fender:

Stock: 32"/33" (front/rear)
Stage 1 Up - 33"/34"
Stage 1 Down - 26"/27"
W/ drop spindles Up - 30"/34"
W/ Drop Spindles Down - 24"/27"
W/ Notch up - 30"/32"
W/ Notch Down - 24"/25"

Hopefully someone finds this helpful.

Here's a link to the full size version:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...%27s%20C10.pdf

Of course this wouldn't have been possible without the help of Travis at Pro Performance!

bodydropped68 12-30-2013 03:35 PM

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thanks for the info very nice job. :metal:

slowcpe 12-30-2013 03:45 PM

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Very nice info. Something for me to look forward to. Have my Stage I front and Stage II Basic rear on order.

dec010974 12-30-2013 07:39 PM

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hey are McGaughys drop spindles different from CPP? I know CPP are cheaper and they claim to pull the front tires inward, which I hope is a good thing. I'm eyeing CPP as we speak.

oldman3 12-30-2013 07:58 PM

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Great info, thanks for posting...Jim

darkhorse970 12-30-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dec010974 (Post 6442195)
hey are McGaughys drop spindles different from CPP? I know CPP are cheaper and they claim to pull the front tires inward, which I hope is a good thing. I'm eyeing CPP as we speak.

Very good info, thanks for taking the effort to put this together. It will help me make some suspension upgrade decisions in the future.

sduckworth13 12-30-2013 09:10 PM

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That's pretty cool Matt, thanks for the pictures. This is what I'm doing to my suspension.

nds1968 12-31-2013 12:02 AM

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Thanks for taking the time and posting your results. It will help me decide on my drop. ;) Nate

I installed the stage 2 rear w/bags and I have 2" dropped spindles with 2" dropped springs for the front. I'm thinking I need to cut one coil now and maybe 1.5" blocks in the rear. We'll see :uhmk:

mac808 12-31-2013 05:30 AM

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Awesome picture chart and write up! You basically did the second part of my PB write up where I was going to try and illustrate the different stance heights of the PB Stage 1/2 kits. Your charts even better with the stock height comparisons too!

Great job!

fastpace 12-31-2013 05:34 AM

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Thanks for posting the pictures and chart Matt. Its really helpful since I just ordered basically the exact same setup but couldn't find any pictures of a completed truck with that that exact setup, seems like everyone is laying frame with drop members and step notches. Great looking truck and that setup looks like it'll be perfect for daily driver duties.

MattPSU 12-31-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bodydropped68 (Post 6441852)
thanks for the info very nice job. :metal:

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Originally Posted by slowcpe (Post 6441863)
Very nice info. Something for me to look forward to. Have my Stage I front and Stage II Basic rear on order.

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Originally Posted by oldman3 (Post 6442238)
Great info, thanks for posting...Jim

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Originally Posted by darkhorse970 (Post 6442320)
Very good info, thanks for taking the effort to put this together. It will help me make some suspension upgrade decisions in the future.

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Originally Posted by sduckworth13 (Post 6442358)
That's pretty cool Matt, thanks for the pictures. This is what I'm doing to my suspension.

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Originally Posted by fastpace (Post 6443025)
Thanks for posting the pictures and chart Matt. Its really helpful since I just ordered basically the exact same setup but couldn't find any pictures of a completed truck with that that exact setup, seems like everyone is laying frame with drop members and step notches. Great looking truck and that setup looks like it'll be perfect for daily driver duties.

Thanks for the feedback guys! Sounds like I wasn't the only one looking for some pictures for comparison purposes.

MattPSU 12-31-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dec010974 (Post 6442195)
hey are McGaughys drop spindles different from CPP? I know CPP are cheaper and they claim to pull the front tires inward, which I hope is a good thing. I'm eyeing CPP as we speak.

I'm not sure what exactly the differences are between the CPP and McGaughys spindles. I'll ask Travis to chime in or maybe someone else know.

I chose McGaughy's because they'll work with a disc brake upgrade I'm planning on making in the future.

- Matt

MattPSU 12-31-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nds1968 (Post 6442744)
Thanks for taking the time and posting your results. It will help me decide on my drop. ;) Nate

I installed the stage 2 rear w/bags and I have 2" dropped spindles with 2" dropped springs for the front. I'm thinking I need to cut one coil now and maybe 1.5" blocks in the rear. We'll see :uhmk:

If you already have bags in the rear, why not just bag the front too?

Where are you from in Pittsburgh? I'm Pittsburgh born and raised. I grew up in North Apollo - the southern part of Armstrong County.

MattPSU 12-31-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mac808 (Post 6443024)
Awesome picture chart and write up! You basically did the second part of my PB write up where I was going to try and illustrate the different stance heights of the PB Stage 1/2 kits. Your charts even better with the stock height comparisons too!

Great job!

Thanks! You're Porterbuilt write up was awesome and I used it as a reference when installing my notch last week. I hope that once painted, my truck is half as nice as yours. - Matt

Bhelton 12-31-2013 09:56 AM

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Very nice write up sir!

Coursey 12-31-2013 09:59 AM

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Very nice comparison!!

BMERDOC 12-31-2013 10:28 AM

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Did you use the PB Trac-bar? The comparison chart is a very good idea. I'll have the McGaughy's spindles/brakes and PB stage 1 kits before Spring.

MattPSU 12-31-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BMERDOC (Post 6443203)
Did you use the PB Trac-bar? The comparison chart is a very good idea. I'll have the McGaughy's spindles/brakes and PB stage 1 kits before Spring.

I have the PB Trac-Bar on it's way. Hope to have it installed soon.

If you're going to also do drop spindles, I would recommend doing the stage 2 rear kit and using it without the upper cups. That's where I'm at now. I basically bought the stage two components individually which ended up costing a little more in the long run.

With the spindles and with the upper cups in the rear with no notch, it gave the truck a "east coast rake" with the rear up high in the air. It was cool looking, but I didn't want that look long term.

After doing this, I think the stage one kits should only be used together when you're keeping the stock arms and spindles. This will give you a somewhat stock looking ride height with the option to lower it 6 inches or so when desired.

If you want to be lower, you need to go with the Stage 1 front, Stage 2 rear, and drop spindles. If I were to start over, that's what I would do. - Matt

PBFAB.COM 12-31-2013 10:55 AM

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Matt-

Thanks for the write up! We will be borrowing your comparison pic you put together!

I plan on painting your truck and putting some wheels on it (digitally of course)... what are your plans for paint and wheels? Might as well try and make it look like it will when you complete it! ;)

Nate

MattPSU 12-31-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Porterbuilt Street Rods (Post 6443251)
Matt-

Thanks for the write up! We will be borrowing your comparison pic you put together!

I plan on painting your truck and putting some wheels on it (digitally of course)... what are your plans for paint and wheels? Might as well try and make it look like it will when you complete it! ;)

Nate

Thanks for the feedback, Nate.

Sorry I didn't start with a better looking truck!

Feel free to add wheels and paint for real or digitally. The plan is Dark Blue - something like Dodge's Jazz Blue on the Challengers - with 20" polished wheels. If the budget allows, I'm thinking Intro Flows but that could change.

I have and can send you a bunch of pictures. Let me know if you want those as well.

nds1968 12-31-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MattPSU (Post 6443154)
If you already have bags in the rear, why not just bag the front too?

Where are you from in Pittsburgh? I'm Pittsburgh born and raised. I grew up in North Apollo - the southern part of Armstrong County.

I am going to run shrader valves on the rear bags. I was thinking about going with coils again but I already have the bags, line and shraders. I just want to get my truck back in one piece again ;) Then I can decide if I want to fully bag the truck. I'd rather not spend the money or the time messing with that now.

I grew up in Arlington (on the hill above South Side). I live in Brentwood now. My Dad moved out your way a few years ago to Freeport. Now he tells people he lives out in the country :lol:

Your truck looks awesome, keep up the good work. Nate

Pro Performance 12-31-2013 03:21 PM

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Great information Matt, and appreciate you posting this up. I too, will have to use this for our site for others to see. Truck is coming along great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dec010974 (Post 6442195)
hey are McGaughys drop spindles different from CPP? I know CPP are cheaper and they claim to pull the front tires inward, which I hope is a good thing. I'm eyeing CPP as we speak.

CPP has 2 types of spindle, the regular & the modular. The modular is supposed to narrow your track width, but to what exact measurement, I am not sure. I believe they say 3/4", but I am unclear on what that is in comparison to and have yet to confirm.

In my opinion and knowledge, the regular CPP spindle (has caliper mounting ears like a stock spindle) and the McGaughys are very much the same.

N2TRUX 01-07-2014 12:17 PM

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MattPSU 01-07-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro Performance (Post 6443690)
Great information Matt, and appreciate you posting this up. I too, will have to use this for our site for others to see. Truck is coming along great.



CPP has 2 types of spindle, the regular & the modular. The modular is supposed to narrow your track width, but to what exact measurement, I am not sure. I believe they say 3/4", but I am unclear on what that is in comparison to and have yet to confirm.

In my opinion and knowledge, the regular CPP spindle (has caliper mounting ears like a stock spindle) and the McGaughys are very much the same.

Thanks for clearing that up, Travis.

Nate - Sunday night I sent you a bunch of pictures. Let me know if you didn't get them or if there's anything else you'd like. - Matt

JointTech 01-07-2014 09:47 PM

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awesome info. thanks for taking the time to do it.


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