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69BUCKET 04-22-2018 05:11 PM

No crank help
 
69 c10 2wd w/ 5.3 & th350...after everything was hooked up...i have no cranking of engine....purple wire at ignition does get power when turning switch to crank...but nothing at the starter wire? Also brake light on gauges turns on when trying to start engine... All fuses good are good....any suggestions?

69BUCKET 04-22-2018 06:16 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Wasn't in park completely...cranking and starting now.......but doesn't stay running....now what?....eng. Light comes on and stays on while it starts and fires up...

ls1nova71 04-22-2018 06:51 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Do you have a way to pull the codes?

69BUCKET 04-22-2018 07:02 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 8244743)
do you have a way to pull the codes?

no...well...i have a diablo sport tuner...can that pull them without a vin?...

e015475 04-22-2018 09:46 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Did you have the VATS disabled in the ECM?

69BUCKET 04-22-2018 09:55 PM

Re: No crank help
 
It was supposed to...but the way things have gone with these guys...i wouldn't be surprised if the ecm wasn't done correctly. Any way to tell for sure once i get a scanner?...

e015475 04-22-2018 10:08 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Don't know about a scanner, but it is exhibiting what motors do when the VATS isn't deleted.

Before I pulled the ECM and had the VATS checked, I'd make sure I had a steady pressure on the fuel rail and make sure it isn't simply running out of fuel.

69BUCKET 04-22-2018 10:12 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e015475 (Post 8244912)
Don't know about a scanner, but it is exhibiting what motors do when the VATS isn't deleted.

Before I pulled the ECM and had the VATS checked, I'd make sure I had a steady pressure on the fuel rail and make sure it isn't simply running out of fuel.

By just disconnecting fuel line?...

e015475 04-22-2018 10:17 PM

Re: No crank help
 
There are codes for the passlock type VATS. Try your scanner and see what comes up

e015475 04-22-2018 10:21 PM

Re: No crank help
 
I'd put a gauge on the schrader valve on the fuel rail and watch what happens when you try to start it. I should stay pretty solid at about 57 or 58 psi. (IIRC) at all times.

If you don't have a fuel pressure gauge, most Autozones have them in their tool loan program

69BUCKET 04-22-2018 10:24 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e015475 (Post 8244924)
I'd put a gauge on the schrader valve on the fuel rail and watch what happens when you try to start it. I should stay pretty solid at about 57 or 58 psi. (IIRC) at all times.

If you don't have a fuel pressure gauge, most Autozones have them in their tool loan program

I will try that first....thank you.

e015475 04-22-2018 10:33 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Just to clear up a little confusion.

Assuming that you had the VATS deleted, it could be exhibiting the same symptoms if you were not pushing enough fuel to the rail and the pressure drooped out - bad pump, stuck regulator, whatever.

I don't know if VATS turns off the fuel pump as part of the start denial - but I'd think it would. so you might want to put a test light to the fuel pump too and make sure it is continuously powered and it isn't VATS turning off the fuel.

69BUCKET 04-22-2018 10:42 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Great info sir...i will follow your advice first before i start with ecm.

ls1nova71 04-22-2018 10:55 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Ok I'm confused. You said it wouldnt stay running, then said that the check engine light is on when it runs? I thought you meant you could keep it running? How long is it running? If never more than a couple of seconds then I'd say it is VATS.

69BUCKET 04-23-2018 12:03 AM

Re: No crank help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 8244953)
ok i'm confused. You said it wouldnt stay running, then said that the check engine light is on when it runs? I thought you meant you could keep it running? How long is it running? If never more than a couple of seconds then i'd say it is vats.

yes...it only stays on for a second or 2...the eng. Light is on when switch is turned on, cranking...and for the second it is on...

ls1nova71 04-23-2018 04:08 AM

Re: No crank help
 
That sounds EXACTLY like VATS hasnt been tuned out......

69BUCKET 04-23-2018 09:22 AM

Re: No crank help
 
Does the VATS trick work?...Read about swapping ECM with a truck and putting mine in place while turning ignition on and off....does this work?...

69BUCKET 04-24-2018 12:50 AM

Re: No crank help
 
Anyone try this?...

ls1nova71 04-24-2018 01:56 AM

Re: No crank help
 
You have to have a running truck with the same computer from what I've seen, but never tried it myself.

69BUCKET 04-24-2018 03:58 PM

Re: No crank help
 
Only cause I'm not in a rush and about done with project...I will track a truck down and try this before sending ECM off.


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