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robs71k5 09-21-2017 05:16 AM

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On the newer (not newest) softopper the Velcro strip on the pole with the topper is too wide and interferes with the glass when you open or close the door . It's ok if the window is halfway 2/3 ds way up but full up won't work . I have talked to others with same issue . Also the window has about 1/2 " inch of gap above full up position that doesn't reach to cover . Starting if wonder if the Chinese blue prints are the same !

tristan 09-21-2017 06:10 AM

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Hey Rob, I have one of your windshield headers which I've just had painted ochre - came out fantastic although not yet installed. Is there something similar for the tailgate? I don't want to drill mine after spending all of that money on bodywork and paint, and I don't want to glue velcro to it either.

hemi43 09-21-2017 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tristan (Post 8044638)
Hey Rob, I have one of your windshield headers which I've just had painted ochre - came out fantastic although not yet installed. Is there something similar for the tailgate? I don't want to drill mine after spending all of that money on bodywork and paint, and I don't want to glue velcro to it either.

I used a thin stainless tailgate protector, and put the velcro on it.

1972 Jimmy 09-21-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hemi43 (Post 8044816)
I used a thin stainless tailgate protector, and put the velcro on it.

Love this idea!!! Where did you get the as tailgate protector?
Eric

Blazerowner 09-21-2017 01:18 PM

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I had problems with the rear window channel contacting the top when closing the door. There's no way I can close my doors with the window up. I bought mine about 1.5-2 years so has the design changed since? I have the Velcro strip that runs where the rear of the window is. I was told the window goes in front of that but there is no way.

robs71k5 09-21-2017 04:41 PM

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Tristan that looks absalutely awesome . You should just remember when you drill the holes . You need to have the Header pushed down all the way at all four bolt locations so the Header is squarely bottomed out. I had a couple of xtra buddies to help complete this task. Hope you get some pictures posted on my thread of your completed install . Thanks for showing this ! Awesome !

hemi43 09-21-2017 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972 Jimmy (Post 8044824)
Love this idea!!! Where did you get the as tailgate protector?
Eric

I got it from Bill's trucks here in Canada, but I'm sure they are available near you. It's designed to fit perfectly on the 67-72 tailgate. I do recall it was very expensive for what it is, but well worth it IMO.

located on page 106, item # 21-510-G -----> http://www.billstruckshop.com/Catalo...Jan%202017.pdf

Blazerowner 09-22-2017 11:42 AM

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How about this at lmc? Does yours mount using the existing holes from the lift gate strip?
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cb/full.aspx?Page=128

Blazerowner 09-22-2017 01:19 PM

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Found this too.
http://www.gmcpauls.com/custom_accessories.htm

hemi43 09-22-2017 01:31 PM

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I used a new tailgate, so I had to drill holes on the inside of the tailgate. FWIW, here's a picture of how I fasten the front of my Softopper. I didn't want to use that ugly aluminum strip they supplied, so I put the domes right on the header. I used that aluminum strip as a drill fixture. Nice a clean and no leaks !!

Blazerowner 09-25-2017 01:55 AM

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I didn't want to drill on the header so I fabbed up a fixture that bolts to the top mounts. They supply the aluminum strip to drill a few less holes but I opted for none. I like the top but the issue with not being able to close my doors with the windows up sucks. I called them and sent pictures and they were not in the least bit helpful.

6768chevylover 09-25-2017 11:24 AM

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Okay. bought the new top. I have an issue now. Got it installed and took it for a ride. My driver side door had adjusted itself to be touching at the top right mounting point and gave me a bigger gap on the left top side. I have shims in the front body mount and I believe in the mount behind the door. Is it as easy as removing shims? If it is which one?

hemi43 09-25-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazerowner (Post 8047334)
I didn't want to drill on the header so I fabbed up a fixture that bolts to the top mounts. They supply the aluminum strip to drill a few less holes but I opted for none. I like the top but the issue with not being able to close my doors with the windows up sucks. I called them and sent pictures and they were not in the least bit helpful.

I'm still not sure why you think you can't close the door with the windows up ? The only issue closing the door with the window FULLY up, is that it slightly pinches the drip flap. It's no big deal because I just lift it and let it go to outside of the glass. One way to prevent this is to leave the glass down 1/2".
If you have difficulty understanding what I'm trying to say, I can take a video for you and post the link.
Dan

hemi43 09-25-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 6768chevylover (Post 8047559)
Okay. bought the new top. I have an issue now. Got it installed and took it for a ride. My driver side door had adjusted itself to be touching at the top right mounting point and gave me a bigger gap on the left top side. I have shims in the front body mount and I believe in the mount behind the door. Is it as easy as removing shims? If it is which one?

A picture of the problem would help us greatly. :-)

Blazerowner 09-25-2017 07:54 PM

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My issue is not at the top of the window rather the back. I was told the flap below goes inside the window. Well If I tried to close my door it is so tight it would shatter my window. The rubber channel on the back of the door rubs against the top material as well. I literally have to unbutton the top to keep it from nearly ripping off the top part of the rubber. Maybe I need to bend the flap or something? I have seen pictures where it's inside the window, but the window is pretty close the bracket holding the plastic strip. When my door is closed my window rolls up inside the strip. Any ideas?


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Originally Posted by hemi43 (Post 8047732)
I'm still not sure why you think you can't close the door with the windows up ? The only issue closing the door with the window FULLY up, is that it slightly pinches the drip flap. It's no big deal because I just lift it and let it go to outside of the glass. One way to prevent this is to leave the glass down 1/2".
If you have difficulty understanding what I'm trying to say, I can take a video for you and post the link.
Dan


robs71k5 09-25-2017 08:18 PM

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Kirk when you roll up your window all the way does it not come into call contact with your the composite piece that the Velcro is sewn to (rear of door riveted to pole) my installation looks extremely close to yours and find it hard to believe I'm the only one experiencing the issue .

robs71k5 09-25-2017 08:22 PM

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Your second picture show perfectly the path of the window wold come up and block your door from opening unless you roll down the window a little to clear the plastic part with the Velcro on it to secure the top on aft side of window

Blazerowner 09-25-2017 09:29 PM

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Exactly, the window according to them should close with the attachment/material/velcro inside the window. I just don't see how this can happen without slamming the door and possibly breaking the glass. I tried unbolting the bed rail and pushing it toward the interior but there is very little to work with. Look at post #2 and his window is outside the strip.

rsavage 09-26-2017 07:02 AM

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I had a softopper on my 71 and I do not believe that the window was meant to go up against the outside or that it could. Wouldn't shed water very well like that and would have put so much bend stress on the widow that it would have broken. That was always my complaint with it having to have the windows down enough for the back edge to clear the plastic velcro strip. I will be buying another one when I get to that point on my 69 project. Wish they had redesigned it, but they are the only game in town

grillzy 09-26-2017 07:06 AM

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In pic #2 could it be you have that bracket 180deg the wrong way? That would move the hoop inside the truck more almost the distance its out.

hemi43 09-26-2017 09:12 AM

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Your bed rail is too far forward. That plastic Velcro piece has to be able to bend inwards when you close the door. Right now, when you close your door, your glass is too close to the aluminum support frame. Unfortunately my top is off my Blazer at the moment but I`ll take some pictures later this week when I put it back on. I did however take a picture of the location of my rail for comparison. Although it`s very close to yours, mine is a bit further back and this makes a huge difference. That rubber piece you said that rubbed against the top, well, mine just barely touches it.

robs71k5 09-26-2017 10:00 PM

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Hemi43 is your door closed in that picture?

hemi43 09-27-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by robs71k5 (Post 8048778)
Hemi43 is your door closed in that picture?

Yes.

robs71k5 09-28-2017 02:38 AM

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I think we are saying the same thing from two different directions. You say you have to be worried what side the glass goes on when you roll up your window. We all agree with that. What we are saying is that if you did roll up the window so it's on the inside you can not open the door unless you move it down a couple inches. That's all this is about. I have been working on this and a way to leak proof and ability to close and lock your door windows up all the way for security from the honest people of course!

hemi43 09-28-2017 04:49 PM

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I put the top back on today and took some close-ups of the door glass area just so you could have something to compare yours to. The last picture shows the only issue I have when closing the door with the glass all the way up, in that the glass will sometimes catch the the drip flap.


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