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68Stepbed 02-01-2012 06:41 PM

Project: LS1ick68
 
First off, let me explain the cheesy name. On every other message forum I'm on and in my email, my username is Slick68. I came up with that name because everyone always told me how slick my truck is/was.

Anyway, the 350 in my 68 is bad and needs replaced. I searched several options and finally found this LS1 from an 02 Camaro from board member, FunkyTechMonkey. It has 40,000 approx. miles on it and it has a Texas Speed MS3 cam installed. I'm afraid the cam will be too big for my purposes, so it will be changed to something a bit more tame. The MS3 cam requires a 3500-3800 stall converter, so I'll get something I can run with about a 2200 stall speed.

As of now, this will be bolted to my current TH350 trans with a 3.07 gear. I'm going to run a carb on it for simplicity. I plan to install the Edelbrock Performer RPM dual plane intake, MSD 6010 ignition control box, and a Holley 670 Street Avenger carb. I also plan to relocate the coil packs and mount the engine as rearward as possible. I'll more than likely run headers of some sort when I can find what I want for a "reasonable" price. Wow, LS headers are pricey!! But, by the time I get some exhaust manifolds, clean them up and have them coated, I'll be close to the same money.

I'm sure I'll explain more as this thread continues, so here's the pics I have as of now. Not much, but I'll add more as I have something more to show. :lol:

Unloading from the truck.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1703.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1705.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1707.jpg

Makeshift stand until I found some metric bolts to mount it to the engine stand.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1708.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1710.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1713.jpg

Finally on the stand.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1846.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1848.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1850.jpg

nibs 02-02-2012 07:11 AM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
that thing sure is clean and purty! Cant wait to see it in the truck

68GMCCustom 02-03-2012 05:34 PM

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sweet truck and build!

dkauffman05 02-03-2012 06:49 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
Are the rockers loose? A few don't look to be centered.

mooseknuckles 02-03-2012 07:36 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
she's a beauty!

68Stepbed 02-06-2012 02:26 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
The heads had already been unbolted, so I took them to a shop where a buddy of mine works. He let me use the tools and parts washer machine. I disassembled them, cleaned everything, lapped the valves and reassembled them.

Nice and clean now!

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1903.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1904.jpg

Time to get to the short block. I'll get it cleaned up and prepped for paint. I'll also start cleaning up the used external parts I'll be getting in.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1905.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1906.jpg

Picked these up on Saturday, as well. The kit came with clamshell style mounts, but all I may need is the plates, so I'm unsure if I want to use these or just use the plates as templates to have custom ones made.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1907.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1909.jpg

clinebarger 02-06-2012 07:02 PM

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I highly recommend having the heads resurfaced, Looks like a die grinder with abrasive sanding disk was used to clean the head surface?

Cant do that to aluminum heads, I my opinion they need to resurfaced anytime thay are taken off the engine.

68Stepbed 02-06-2012 09:21 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
We used a scuff pad, not a heavy abrasive wheel. I don't disagree with you, nor am I trying to discredit you in any way. The guy that helped me with this is a highly trained and certified mechanic. He does stuff like this on a daily basis.

I will double check with a machinist before bolting them back on, though. Thanks for the input.

68Stepbed 02-08-2012 09:06 AM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
I've got an oil pan, front timing cover, rear cover, flexplate with adapter ring and bolts, an MSD 6010 controller, and coil packs bought from private sellers that should all start rolling in the next few days.

68Stepbed 02-10-2012 08:25 AM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
Got a few parts in.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1918.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1919.jpg

Hood is off and engine/trans. are ready to be pulled. Hopefully it will be out this weekend.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1920.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1921.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1922.jpg

68GMCCustom 02-10-2012 03:21 PM

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as nice as that engine compartment is... I think I would have to pull the whole front clip in an effort to save the paint! :lol:

68Stepbed 02-10-2012 04:27 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
:lol: It's doable without scratching paint if I'm VERY careful. :D

I tried getting the engine/trans out together on my lunch break today and that's not gonna happen. It would if my garage door was about 6" higher. :dohh:

clinebarger 02-10-2012 08:37 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
You are aware the front cover, rear cover & oil pan need to be aligned proporly?

68Stepbed 02-10-2012 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clinebarger (Post 5180008)
You are aware the front cover, rear cover & oil pan need to be aligned proporly?

Yes. I'll cross that bridge when I get closer. What's the best literature for instructions on how to do this? GM service manual?

clinebarger 02-10-2012 11:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 68Stepbed (Post 5180254)
Yes. I'll cross that bridge when I get closer. What's the best literature for instructions on how to do this? GM service manual?

Any/All GM literature will call for a Kent Moore J-43145 Gen III sevice tool set, I bought mine years ago for about $500, Not sure what they run now.

68Stepbed 02-13-2012 09:49 AM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
OK, I got the old engine/trans out Friday evening. I was going to wait until Saturday morning, but the weather man said Friday would be somewhat nice(at least for Feburary) with a high of around 50 deg. But, it was supposed to start raining late Friday night and turn into snow, then the high for Sat. was only going to be around 34 deg. I know for some of you guys up north, that's probably t-shirt weather :lol: but for us southern boys, that's just too dang cold!! Especially for me. I'm turning into a bit of a wuss when it comes to cold weather. :embarrassed: So, I pulled the engine while the weather was tolerable.

Almost out!
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1928.jpg

Finally out!!
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1931.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1933.jpg

Looks like I have a lot of degreasing to do. :haha:
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1935.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1939.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1940.jpg

TH350 in all it's grimy glory.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1929.jpg

I'm not so sure if I'm gonna stay with the TH350 now, though. It was built in 2001 and has served me well and has no issues, but it has started leaking alot in the past couple weeks of just sitting. I'm sure it could use all new seals and gaskets, a filter change, and an overall checkup. All of this is gonna run me about $200. I'm also going to have to change to some kind of stall converter, which will be about another +/-$200. That's going to be about $400 in this trans. and I can get a 700R4 built for about $900. I figure I might as well just spend the extra money on the 700R4 and be done with it.

68Stepbed 02-15-2012 02:28 PM

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Some more parts in!

Here's the adapter kit to mate the engine to an older trans.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1941.jpg

coil packs
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1942.jpg

windage tray and pickup tube
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1943.jpg

rear cover

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1945.jpg

MSD 6010 ignition controller
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1944.jpg

oldblue1968chevy 02-22-2012 01:44 AM

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Wow how ddid you get that out without scratching paint

And this thing just got way nicer. Good luck with the swap! I'll see it oneday

68Stepbed 02-24-2012 01:10 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
A little progress.

Coil relocation brackets made.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1963.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1967.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1964.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1965.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1966.jpg

Made a valley cover out of 1/4" aluminum sheet and painted. I made this because the factory LS1 valley cover has 2 large holes for knock sensors. I also used button head bolts for a cleaner look.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1977.jpg

Oil pan painted Cast Coat Aluminum. Front Cover painted a cast iron color. Hard to tell the difference in these pics.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1979.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1980.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1981.jpg

mooseknuckles 02-24-2012 01:17 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
looks good!...where do you plan on mounting the coils?....

68Stepbed 02-24-2012 03:42 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
On the back of the head if I have room. The engine will be sitting approx. 3 3/4" rearward than the old 350, so it's gonna need test fitting before I decide for sure.

oldblue1968chevy 02-24-2012 10:37 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
I didnt check this thread at first because the goofy name haha.

Its gonna look great when its done. When do you hope to have it all back on the road?

68GMCCustom 02-25-2012 02:12 PM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
coil mount brackets look nice and simple. with what companies are charging for coil relocation setups...you could make some money by undercutting them...like $99 or something. Seems like most are over $150... up to $300 or so.

68Stepbed 02-27-2012 09:29 AM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy (Post 5210617)
I didnt check this thread at first because the goofy name haha.

Its gonna look great when its done. When do you hope to have it all back on the road?

Thanks, John. I'm hoping for the end of March or early April.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68GMCCustom (Post 5211780)
coil mount brackets look nice and simple. with what companies are charging for coil relocation setups...you could make some money by undercutting them...like $99 or something. Seems like most are over $150... up to $300 or so.

I found some similar on ebay for $60, but then shipping and Paypal fees would've put me in them over $80. Alot of other companies sell kits with wires included, but the wires are routed different or they include red wires. I personally just don't care for colored plug wires anymore. I've found it's cleaner and more simple looking with black plug wires put into some nice looms.

These brackets actually only cost me about $3 in bolts, washers and nuts becasue my dad had the aluminum strips laying around. The aluminum would still only cost me about $10 or so.

68Stepbed 03-06-2012 09:44 AM

Re: Project: LS1ick68
 
Got a few more parts.

Wonder what's in the big box?
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1987.jpg

New trans crossmember! My old one was going to rub the x-pipe, so I needed one that sat level or just above frame rail height.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1991.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1992.jpg

2010 Camaro SS manifolds. I got a decent deal on these. I figure if they're good for 430 HP LS3s, they'll be fine on my LS1. Plus, I didn't have to buy $500 headers. They came with heat shields, but I'll leave them off. I may knock down the mounting tabs and smoth these off when I know for a fact they will work.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_2000.jpg

Got some stock 5.3 valve covers. Here they are cleaned up and the coil pack mounting tabs removed.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1985.jpg

Filled the holes with JB Weld. I plan to just paint these and run them for now. I may get some dressier VCs later.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1988.jpg

Test fitting stuff. here's the motor mounts and adapter plates.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_2001.jpg

Manifolds held on with a couple bolts.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1995.jpg

And here's the stock frame stands just bolted to the mounts. I have about 1/4" clearance on the drivers side, but they rub on the pass. side.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1996.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_1994.jpg

So, I ordered these to take of that problem.
http://www.performanceonline.com/196...RACKETS-16820/

Not pictured yet is the starter I received last week. I've bought a used custom COMP Cam and a truck accessory drive system from private sellers on LS1Tech.com. They should be on their way. I'm going to order my intake, fuel pump, and aluminum radiator today. Hopefully they will be in by the end of the week!


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